Is Craps A Loser?

Quote: Martin

If you feel rushed you're allowing the stick to rush you. Simply say, "not ready yet" or something like that and they'll pull them away.

I think this is a problem I have. So I really don't know what to expect (pace etc...) at some place where I have never played at. Seriously though, aren't sticks supposed to know that 4-5 rolls a minute is WAY TOO FAST even without the player telling them. Just sit down and imagine ... shoot ... look up and hear what the stick calls out... then magically the dice are right back in front of you... you shoot again... and the process repeats and repeats... I'm actually quite surprised that after all these years craps has been around that PEOPLE in general don't just lose it and yell at the stick. This really makes people nervous. I am a young man (not even 30) and I really do get nervous. It's also because you have to make sure your math is right... make sure the payouts are correct etc... if you have place bets/any bets. So has anyone ever experienced being nervous with the stick pushing it? What did you say to them to try to slow it down etc...?

If you're the shooter, you don't have to say anything. The stick will push the dice in front of you and you'll pick them up when you are ready to shoot. If anyone in the crew makes any comment about picking up the pace, just say that you're not ready. That's it, and you won't get any flack... and if you do, just ignore it and shoot whn you're ready. It's really not a big deal.

Quote: TheNightfly

If you're the shooter, you don't have to say anything. The stick will push the dice in front of you and you'll pick them up when you are ready to shoot. If anyone in the crew makes any comment about picking up the pace, just say that you're not ready. That's it, and you won't get any flack... and if you do, just ignore it and shoot whn you're ready. It's really not a big deal.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if I am supposed to tell the stick directly by saying something like "can you slow it down." Or I was maybe thinking about telling the dealer closest to me and having him tell the stick. I'm just not sure what to do. I probably wouldn't have problems playing at a local place. It's just this weird feeling I have when playing somewhere else. This is especially awkward in places like Nevada where they try to rush in as many rolls as possible. I don't know if "rushing" is considered the standard rate in Nevada. I know I've said it like a million times but the pace is in fact insane. The dice just keeps going out even at a full table. You don't have that time in between rolls to make your bets sometimes and it's hard to see where the dice is. I've been having a lot of negative thoughts as of late about craps.

What i like to do when i think the table is moving to fast or i find that there is too much disruption at the table is i push the dice back to the stick man. allow what commotion going in is finished or when i had my breather to look around see what bets i have what i wanna keep, what i want to take down or add too.

Remember this is your money on the table, you cant worry about what other people bet. You as a shooter cant be responsible for their bets and losses. Accept the fact you cant control the outcome of the next roll but you can control the pace in which you shoot.

For the most part even when i am on a table by myself i have never found the dealers rushing me to shoot.

But i do find when there are alot of players on the table the game moves too slow.

If you are playing slower than the rest of the table wants to play, then you need to speed up your play a bit. However, I am betting that is not the case, and especially when you are the only player on the table! When you are the only player, PLAY AT YOUR PACE. When the stick pushes the dice right back to you, and you are still thinking about a bet you might want to make, just ignore the dice. When you are ready, pick them up and throw them. Now, if there are other players at the table, you need to respect their right to have a reasonably paced game, but when you are by yourself, you can pace the game. Engage the dealers, or the boxman, or the stickman. Talk about the weather, about the skirt that just walked by, or any other subject.
There are only a couple of hard rules you need to know for craps.

Only use 1 hand when you pick up the dice.
Never pull the dice back behind the rail.
Both of these are controls to ensure you are not switching in loaded dice.

Everything else I consider to be suggestions. I like to pick out dice to throw that are showing me 5 when they push the dice to me. IF I don't have 2 fives, I pick up all 5 dice and roll them against the near wall. This takes 2 secs. and most places never say a word. However, one place the stick ALWAYS complains when I do that. The usual comment is, "No private rolls, sir". By then I have my 2 fives, so who cares. :-) Next time the dice come by, if there is no five, I pick them all up and roll against the wall. "I said, No private rolls, sir." I pick up my two fives and will look them in the eye, grin, and say, "nothing private about it sir, everyone here could see the dice."
The point here is, don't let them get in your head. I have fun, I make bets for the dealers, but I have little things I like to do, that don't interfere with the game, or with other players. The stick can complain every time, I could not care less. I've never been asked to leave a table because they have had to repeatedly tell me I could not do something. After a while they will usually find someone else to mess with.

Bottom line, it has been said before, It is your money, you should be ENJOYING your time playing the game. After all, the most likely outcome is you are giving your money to the casino, so you should be getting some enjoyment from this, or you should re-examine why you are playing in the first place.