warrenaf
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March 27th, 2017 at 1:19:32 AM permalink
Does anybody know of any card counting software available to download online. Something I can use to keep track of every card that has been played while showing me the probability of whats remaining being drawn. I know most online casinos do have ways of detecting when your playing optimal and betting high when the odds are in your favor but I'm not exactly a high roller, I play with 1-5$ bets and 50 at the very most, I'm just looking to get any advantage I can, if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
socks
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March 27th, 2017 at 2:59:29 AM permalink
Just to be clear, software is best used to practice away from the table. Using electronic devices at the table is against the law.
AxelWolf
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socks
March 27th, 2017 at 11:08:06 AM permalink
Quote: socks

Just to be clear, software is best used to practice away from the table. Using electronic devices at the table is against the law.

I think one may take his or her chances when playing at an unregulated online casino.

This would bring up and interesting topic when talking about a regulated online casino.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TumblingBones
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March 27th, 2017 at 11:49:38 AM permalink
I've been under the impression that the online casinos, which seem to be the focus of the OP's question, use software that reshuffles after every hand. If so, card counting would be a waste of time.
Romes
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March 27th, 2017 at 1:14:39 PM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

I've been under the impression that the online casinos, which seem to be the focus of the OP's question, use software that reshuffles after every hand. If so, card counting would be a waste of time.

There are plenty of "online live" games that deal real cards from a real shoe... However these games often come with 50% penetration, which is for lack of a better explanation unbeatable.

There used to exist shoe computers and other software programs to keep track of the deck composition and to play perfectly given what cards have come out. Honestly though, I don't know the software would easily be made available online. You'd probably have to find someone that had the software and pay them to make an application out of it (instead of a physical unit that people USED to use in the field - when it was legal).

OP - to be honest, it's literally not worth the effort for you:

1) You play such low stakes that it won't really make a difference.

2) You also must bet more when the count is favorable enough to the player (but with your low stakes we're talking quarters per hour).

3) The amount you'd have to pay someone for the software/application would be more than the amount you'd lose just playing basic strategy.

4) Online live games (generally with TERRIBLE rules and/or PEN) are unbeatable, so it's a waste of time to attack these.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
heerokonami
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March 27th, 2017 at 2:33:30 PM permalink
I wondered this too. Card counting live online dealer...

As long as you find a dealer that does not shuffle half way through the show then your set.

But i've heard of problems with online gambling. "glitches" make it easier for the casino to cheat.

I think card counting would be safer online obviously.
socks
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March 29th, 2017 at 5:33:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think one may take his or her chances when playing at an unregulated online casino.

This would bring up and interesting topic when talking about a regulated online casino.



Oops. I completely missed the part about it being an online casino. I have no idea what the law is there, but it's hard to imagine such a game being susceptible to counting.
billryan
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March 29th, 2017 at 6:16:20 PM permalink
Just gives them another reason not to pay up.
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GaryJKoehler
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March 31st, 2017 at 6:29:50 AM permalink
Here are two links to academic papers that show how various "bots" were used to play optimally at online casinos. The first paper focused on Blackjack. The second on a host of games, including BJ.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167923699000469

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167923608001188

These were done when Online gambling was still legal in the US.

This doesn't really help you, since the software is not available, but suggests such software did (and probably still does) exist.

Other than taking advantage of sign-up promotions, I suspect no real opportunities exist.

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