NaturalEight
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October 4th, 2016 at 10:12:02 AM permalink
I don't understand how the blackjack played at MGM and Wynn is only a .09 game in Macau. The numbers are not adding up to me. With a shoe game, RSA, DA2, DAS, split to 4 hands, LS you have a .28 game.

Is the surrender E10 worth .18?

I'm confused how we are arriving at the figure of .09 in Macau?
NaturalEight
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October 4th, 2016 at 10:02:23 PM permalink
Bump? Anyone have any ideas? Eliot Jacobsen says that the figure of .09 is wrong as well
Hunterhill
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October 5th, 2016 at 4:19:49 AM permalink
I think es10 is worth .25 so that would make the game .03 I'm going from memory on that so i could be mistaken.
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Wizardofnothing
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October 5th, 2016 at 6:48:47 AM permalink
Where did Eliot say it was wrong?
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CrystalMath
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October 5th, 2016 at 8:09:01 AM permalink
Quote: NaturalEight

I don't understand how the blackjack played at MGM and Wynn is only a .09 game in Macau. The numbers are not adding up to me. With a shoe game, RSA, DA2, DAS, split to 4 hands, LS you have a .28 game.

Is the surrender E10 worth .18?

I'm confused how we are arriving at the figure of .09 in Macau?



Late surrender vs 10 = 0.07%
Early surrender vs 10 = 0.24%
Net change from your rules = 0.17%

This is for 8D, S17, but it will be pretty close regardless.
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NaturalEight
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October 6th, 2016 at 10:13:59 AM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

Late surrender vs 10 = 0.07%
Early surrender vs 10 = 0.24%
Net change from your rules = 0.17%

This is for 8D, S17, but it will be pretty close regardless.

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This is the figure and my friends come up with as well as Eliot Jacobsen when I emailed and asked him. However the wizard of Macau has it listed at .09 at MGM and Wynn, and .16 at the worse rules place.

I cannot for the life of me figure out if WE are missing something or not. The wizard cannot be that stupid. I wish he could come here and explain how he gets the 0.09. Also it's not me just saying it it's advertised as being a 0.09 game on wizardofmacau and every resource seems to agree with his.
teliot
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October 6th, 2016 at 12:32:51 PM permalink
The edge of -0.167% I reported to you assumes NRSA.

With RSA I get -0.098%.
Last edited by: teliot on Oct 6, 2016
NaturalEight
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October 7th, 2016 at 6:20:48 AM permalink
Also apparently you have no limitations on splits
WinningWays
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October 8th, 2016 at 2:32:57 PM permalink
Are there now Blackjack shoe games in Macau? I scouted virtually everywhere when I visited Macau in April 2016 and couldn't find any! It was all CSMs. Have conditions changed?
KingoftheEye
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October 9th, 2016 at 12:09:17 PM permalink
Quote: WinningWays

Are there now Blackjack shoe games in Macau? I scouted virtually everywhere when I visited Macau in April 2016 and couldn't find any! It was all CSMs. Have conditions changed?



LOL, how old is your info? Aside from the odd V.I.P. room, there haven't been BJ shoe games in Macau for years. Not just 1 or 2, but many years.

Of course, I've never walked into the lowest end properties like Greek Mythology or Golden Dragon, so maybe you can try your luck there?

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