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You’ve very badly damaged the movie by doing this.
| December 7th, 2011 at 6:20:13 AM permalink | |
| pacomartin Member since: Jan 14, 2010 Threads: 547 Posts: 6210 | David Denby, printed a very positive review of the new Daniel Craig movie. But the producer is furious, saying that the review "badly damaged the movie". What is the problem? The reviewer published the review a week early. Now it will be old news in the mind of the audience by the time the movie is released (16 days later). The fact that the movie review was overwhelmingly positive is deemed immaterial. While I admit a movie studio could get annoyed at someone breaking an embargo, what does this say about our culture? Releasing a positive review a week early "damages a movie". Do we as a culture have no memory anymore? Is the only relevent comment anymore "that is so 15 minutes ago".
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| December 7th, 2011 at 6:37:20 AM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5727 | Sigh, people need to stop and think before they speak. The producer is right to be upset, but phrased it very badly. Releasing the review early means that all the positive P.R. that could be obtained by having someone read the review and then see the movie listed in a schedule is lost. That doesn't damage the movie. It does however, fail to help it as much as it could have. Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
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| December 7th, 2011 at 7:02:56 AM permalink | |
| odiousgambit Member since: Nov 9, 2009 Threads: 174 Posts: 2414 | I reviewed the original non-Hollywood version, so definitely I have to see this one to compare. The original was hard not to get shocked at for various reasons like graphic rape scenes, so I have to wonder if that is toned down, for one thing. "Baccarat is a game whereby the croupier gathers in money with a flexible sculling oar, then rakes it home. If I could have borrowed his oar I would have stayed." Mark Twain |
| December 7th, 2011 at 7:53:20 AM permalink | |
| teddys Member since: Nov 14, 2009 Threads: 100 Posts: 2725 | I don't see what the producer is so upset about. There is an unspoken rule that you publish the review the weekend the movie comes out, but editors are free to do whatever they want. If the producer didn't want it published so early, he should have held off on the press screenings. Sometimes magazines will publish an early review for a big movie or something that has moved outside the world of cinema into the general interest, e.g. Passion of the Christ. I think the movie has enough buzz that it will not be affected at all by this review. The books were very popular. "If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling |
| December 7th, 2011 at 8:20:58 AM permalink | |
| pacomartin Member since: Jan 14, 2010 Threads: 547 Posts: 6210 |
Well it wasn't so unspoken this time. They showed it early as a convenience, but the reporter agreed to an embargo. Because it is the New Yorker he simply got stuck in a bad position since the only other movies were low concept family movies like "We bought a Zoo" and "The Darkest Hour". The editor broke the embargo by publishing a week early. ![]() I thought reviewers didn't matter that much anymore. The masses don't care, they respond to advertising. The intellectuals can presumably remember a good review for an extra week. ======================================== There seems to be two kinds of extreme violence in movies. There is the low class kind like "Saw" and "Hostel". Then there is the artistic movies like "No country for Old Men", "Wallender", "Dragon Tatoo", and "American History X". But the violence can actually be much more disturbing in the more artistic films since it is less artificial. What is with violence in Scandinavian films (particularly Swedish)? For a country with almost no murders, they seem to love these ultra violent stories. Wine loved I deeply, dice dearly -Edgar, betrayed son of Gloucester in King Lear |
| December 7th, 2011 at 12:48:44 PM permalink | |
| progrocker Member since: Feb 21, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 299 |
Individual reviews may not matter, but their aggregate scoring taken in and displayed by sites like rottentomatoes.com does factor into many people's decision on what to see (or when to see, can this wait until the DVD is available?), myself included. In regards to your comment on violent movies, Scandinavians also like heavy metal. My guess is that both tastes are a product of cold weather and short days. Although external violence is low there, suicide rates are high (14, 15, and 36th compared to the USA's 39th ranking worldwide, via the wiki article citing World Health Organization data). Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos. |
| December 8th, 2011 at 4:46:48 PM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5727 | I finally saw a commercial for "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". I still have no desire to see the movie. Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
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| December 8th, 2011 at 4:57:45 PM permalink | |
| Ayecarumba Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 113 Posts: 2047 |
A certain segment of every large population really enjoys the rush from violent images. Unfortunately, not all of them are stable. Just because the violent films are the ones that make it to the American market doesn't mean that is all they produce. There are many different genres of films produced in Hong Kong (not just Kung Fu), and Japan (not just Horror), that don't make it to the American market. |
| December 8th, 2011 at 9:02:05 PM permalink | |
| zippyboy Member since: Jan 19, 2011 Threads: 1 Posts: 622 | I've never read this book, or trilogy, in fact I don't read fiction at all. But when I first saw this trailer last summer in the theater for Contagion, I'm interested. I'll see almost anything with Daniel Craig, or any movie by David Fincher, and the dark stylism and techno music of the trailer make this a must-see for me. The fact critics like it also is moot, but is nice to hear. "Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying." |
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