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British English vs American English

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May 12th, 2011 at 4:18:42 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Sometimes I read things about British English (often in a historical context like WWII) and I wonder if they are still true? I know there are British contributors to this blog.

For example, I read that British read the first sentence, like the Americans read the second sentence. An American reads the second sentence that "he" is required to go to school by "them".

(1) “They insisted he went to school every day”
(2) “They insisted he go to school every day”

I think most Americans when they read the first sentence assume that someone has accused "him" of skipping school, and "they" are saying that "he" really did attend.

Is that really true? Does the second sentence sound just as natural as the first?
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:24:09 PM permalink
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:36:26 PM permalink
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I read (1) and (2) differently, because the tense of the verb is different. I would take (1) to be something said in defense of an accusation of skipping school.
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:42:05 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
I read (1) and (2) differently, because the tense of the verb is different. I would take (1) to be something said in defense of an accusation of skipping school.


I understand that British read sentence (1) as a requirement to attend school.
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:45:24 PM permalink
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:47:20 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: pacomartin
I understand that British read sentence (1) as a requirement to attend school.


The Brits speak our language funny :P
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:54:15 PM permalink
thecesspit
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Quote: pacomartin
I understand that British read sentence (1) as a requirement to attend school.


For sure, I read it as such. :)

In would write the other intepretation as :

"They insisted he had been to school every day."
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:55:15 PM permalink
pacomartin
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From my meetings I learned that the phrase "table the discussion" means the exact opposite in Britain as the United States.
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May 12th, 2011 at 4:57:32 PM permalink
thecesspit
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Quote: pacomartin
From my meetings I learned that the phrase "table the discussion" means the exact opposite in Britain as the United States.


What does it mean in the US? Tabling a motion means to put it on the table for discussion and consideration...
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May 12th, 2011 at 5:02:34 PM permalink
pacomartin
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What does it mean in the US?


In American English it means to put it off for discussion at a later point. It is one of those fairly rare expressions that are not only differently interpreted, but with exact opposite meanings.
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