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April 24th, 2019 at 2:38:36 PM permalink
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Has his newfound fame burned his sports betting career?



I dont think he really needs to worry about that after this run.
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April 24th, 2019 at 3:03:44 PM permalink
Ken Jennings' net gain on Daily Doubles during first 14 games: $48,600
James Holzhauer's net gain on Daily Doubles during first 14 games: $319,366

His secret weapon is being comfortable betting enormous sums of money.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:06:49 PM permalink
James could conceivably win until Alex dies of cancer. Could be soon. Never know.

Jeopardy producers might change the rules after James loses, maybe making a 10- or 20-game win maximum. It used to be five games.
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:13:46 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

Jeopardy producers might change the rules after James loses, maybe making a 10- or 20-game win maximum. It used to be five games.

Why should they? Their ratings are through the roof. They didn't change the rules back in 2004 when Jennings won a whopping 74 games in a row. They didn't change the rules when Collins won 20 games in a row.

I can't see why they would change the rules now. Streaks like this don't happen often. When it does it's good for the show.
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:32:45 PM permalink
When does he play Watson?
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:53:51 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

James could conceivably win until Alex dies of cancer. Could be soon. Never know.

Jeopardy producers might change the rules after James loses, maybe making a 10- or 20-game win maximum. It used to be five games.



Why ?
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:55:58 AM permalink
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Why ?



Among other things, they can't stage a 1-man tournament of champions?
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April 25th, 2019 at 7:20:15 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Among other things, they can't stage a 1-man tournament of champions?

Ah. But if there are no other champions, for an entire year, couldn't they designate that this year, the other "champions" will simply be the x number of contestants that finished with the highest totals.

Couldn't they also say there will be no Tournament of Champions that year, since not enough people qualified, because of someone's amazing run. Who says there HAS to be a Tournament of Champions each year?

Couldn't they also bring back prior champions for this year's Tournament of Champions, again, because no one qualified this year?
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April 25th, 2019 at 8:19:33 AM permalink
The Jeopardy ToC Wikipedia entry has a lot of good info. It states that the ToC is not necessarily held every year. The 2017 ToC had champions from the previous 3 seasons. I could see them delaying the next ToC until they get a suitable field of qualifiers.

Another interesting tidbit:
Quote: Wikipedia

Notably, 2004 74-day champion Ken Jennings gave up his bid in the 2006 Tournament of Champions in favor of an automatic finals bye in 2005's Ultimate Tournament of Champions, and therefore never competed in the regular tournament.

Perhaps James won't even choose compete in the next ToC.

ETA: Btw, as the ToC champion, competing in 4 episodes to win the top prize of $250,000, James would be taking a 5-figure per-episode pay cut compared to his regular game average!
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April 25th, 2019 at 8:32:09 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

No.

From your monosyllabic answer, I assume that there are nuances you'd rather not elaborate on. Can I assume that sports APs don't worry about being exposed because there are ways to get their bets down by proxy?
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:06:39 AM permalink
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From your monosyllabic answer, I assume that there are nuances you'd rather not elaborate on. Can I assume that sports APs don't worry about being exposed because there are ways to get their bets down by proxy?



Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be rude.

Some sports ap rely on being discrete.

From what I’ve gathered, James finds advantages without needing that.
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:11:50 AM permalink
Jeopardy is not scheduled to air until 9:00 pm tonight and tomorrow where I live (Southern California), which is two hours later than normal. (ABC's coverage of the NFL Draft will preempt it.)
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:17:40 AM permalink
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Jeopardy is not scheduled to air until 9:00 pm tonight and tomorrow where I live (Southern California), which is two hours later than normal. (ABC's coverage of the NFL Draft will preempt it.)



East Coast, it's on in the 7:00-8:00 hr tonight (normal), but Friday is being shown at 11:30 pm SATURDAY. Yeesh.
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:31:51 AM permalink
Has anyone spoiled themselves on whether or not James lasts the rest of the season?

I’M NOT ASKING FOR THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION

Just curious if anyone has looked it up. They film a couple months in advance in front of a live audience, so that info has gotta be out there.
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:40:45 AM permalink
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Has anyone spoiled themselves on whether or not James lasts the rest of the season?

I’M NOT ASKING FOR THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION

Just curious if anyone has looked it up. They film a couple months in advance in front of a live audience, so that info has gotta be out there.

No, and I don't want to know. I hope I don't hear about it or read about what happened ahead of time. I'd much rather watch the results on TV.

When Ken Jennings finally lost, after 74 episodes, that episode was a surprise to me. I certainly hope that's the case again.
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April 25th, 2019 at 10:00:33 AM permalink
I thought it was weird that Alex asked him if he would share his winnings with his parents. I'm sure they work out the conversation in advance but it struck me as rude.
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April 25th, 2019 at 11:57:19 AM permalink
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I dont think he really needs to worry about that after this run.



Not only will he be set with the money he has won from Jeopardy, I'm sure that the books will still take his action. In addition, it is highly likely that he will get many proposals to work in the industry in some capacity with an enticing salary n bonus structure.

He can do whatever he wants. He has gotten a lot of positive exposure and street cred from Jeopardy, so he could start his own business in the gaming sector sell to the masses.
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April 25th, 2019 at 11:58:37 AM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

I thought it was weird that Alex asked him if he would share his winnings with his parents. I'm sure they work out the conversation in advance but it struck me as rude.



I thought that question was awkward as well. I thought maybe there was a backstory to him coming from humble beginnings or financially challenged upbringing, which would prompt Alex to ask that question.
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April 25th, 2019 at 12:08:24 PM permalink
I don't mean this derogatorily, but perhaps Alex is starting to suffer from Chemo brain. It really disrupts a persons cognitive functioning.
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April 25th, 2019 at 1:20:14 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I don't mean this derogatorily, but perhaps Alex is starting to suffer from Chemo brain. It really disrupts a persons cognitive functioning.



I've seen other moments where the questions seemed uncomfortable over the years. Perhaps there was not a good enough understanding of the expected question and answer.
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April 25th, 2019 at 1:39:18 PM permalink
After 15 episodes with the same champion, I bet they've gone through all of the 'human interest' material he had originally submitted and Alex has to reach for topics to talk about.
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:09:27 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

After 15 episodes with the same champion, I bet they've gone through all of the 'human interest' material he had originally submitted and Alex has to reach for topics to talk about.



This.

It’s gotta be a stretch to come up with a fun new family-friendly anecdote to talk about every night.
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:28:32 PM permalink
https://thejeopardyfan.com has today's episode result ahead of time, they also have good statistics on likely winning streaks and other interesting info.
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:51:33 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

.. today's episode result ahead of time ....tonight's episode.

I usually watch it via dailymotion the following morning UK time but today noticed they had already posted the video of "4-25-19" - I've put the link in spoiler in case it gives a preview

btw what time does the show goes out generally to people in the US as if they keep doing this I'll see it before everyone else!

(I used to be on an ABBA forum where lots of people in Australia watched Eurovision the following evening primetime, so there was a bar on mentioning the results for that day. Do we need to establish a similar rule if sometime really dramatic happens?)
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

I thought that question was awkward as well. I thought maybe there was a backstory to him coming from humble beginnings or financially challenged upbringing, which would prompt Alex to ask that question.



The town he is from is middle to upper to rich. I live in the bordering town. Not so rich...
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:57:30 PM permalink
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...btw what time does the show goes out generally to people in the US as if they keep doing this I'll see it before everyone else!

When the show airs in the US varies around the country. I'm on the west coast and I see it at 7:00 pm. Others on the west coast may see it at different times. I think I remember my mom in Seattle say she watches it at 7:30 pm. I recall reading that one viewer, on the East Coast I think, normally watches it in the afternoon, and he is three hours ahead of me, which means he could be watching it each day as much as six hours or more, before I do. And of course Hawaii is three hours behind me.

So the time it airs is all over the place.
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April 25th, 2019 at 3:37:00 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

https://thejeopardyfan.com has today's episode result ahead of time, they also have good statistics on likely winning streaks and other interesting info.


They should offer to write a colorful anecdote for a fee paid by the contestant.
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:00:13 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

https://thejeopardyfan.com has today's episode result ahead of time, they also have good statistics on likely winning streaks and other interesting info.



Thank you. I came on hoping someone posted the results since I was at kids baseball game tonight.
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:02:11 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Thank you. I came on hoping someone posted the results since I was at kids baseball game tonight.



They just aired east coast. So spoiler.

James won a little over 90k. Found all 3 dd, got them right. Was the only one to get FJ correct.
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:05:57 PM permalink
I am not sure if we should wish you luck on your audition. What would your feeling be if you showed up in 2 months and you see him there still. That means he would be on for about 5 months at that point
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:09:46 PM permalink
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When the show airs in the US varies around the country.



Years ago I lived in a location where I could watch it at 5 PM, and then see it again on another station in another program area at 6 PM.

I have a pretty decent memory and always thought it would be a riot to watch the 5 PM show and then have friends over for the 6 PM show where I would just magically know all the answers :)
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:10:34 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Thank you. I came on hoping someone posted the results since I was at kids baseball game tonight.

If you google jeopardy and dailymotion (taking the slight risk of a spoiler if he beats his record or other newsworthy items) then you'll get a link to the video. That way you can watch it (doesn't have ads so only 20 mins long) before coming here. I posted a link earlier but here's another one
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x76ks1e
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:17:34 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I am not sure if we should wish you luck on your audition. What would your feeling be if you showed up in 2 months and you see him there still. That means he would be on for about 5 months at that point



It's going to take luck and real smarts to beat him, no question. I don't think I'm good enough, head to head, to do it. But I could luck out on categories here and there, based on what he doesn't get right so far. I have to get through the audition to even get a shot, so I'm taking it a step at a time.

There have been a couple times he's been vulnerable, and a couple people who might have been good enough, but they were too cautious. I think it can be done.

This is not to dis him in any way. I'm filled with admiration at how he's doing. I just don't think he's infallible.
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April 25th, 2019 at 5:25:21 PM permalink
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It's going to take luck and real smarts to beat him, no question. I don't think I'm good enough, head to head, to do it. But I could luck out on categories here and there, based on what he doesn't get right so far. I have to get through the audition to even get a shot, so I'm taking it a step at a time.

There have been a couple times he's been vulnerable, and a couple people who might have been good enough, but they were too cautious. I think it can be done.

This is not to dis him in any way. I'm filled with admiration at how he's doing. I just don't think he's infallible.



One thing that has to be tough is that he is getting all of this practice on the buzzer. That had got to lead to a decent advantage. I think his aggressive style is going to lead others to double up if they ever get a dd. That is probably what will eventually get him
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April 25th, 2019 at 9:47:30 PM permalink
With just one more win at his current average ($76,624), Holzhauer will already be more than halfway to the total amount Ken Jennings earned during Ken's 74 day streak. That's amazing.

Does anyone know the how many more episodes there are in this season? Also, does anyone know how long the break is and when the first episode of the next season is scheduled to air?
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April 25th, 2019 at 11:34:21 PM permalink
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Anyone care to make a friendly wager how long he lasts? Just to throw out a number, I predict he makes it through April 26 at least. I absolutely promise I have no inside information.

This will be decided tomorrow. (Friday) That went by fast.

Assuming he wins again tomorrow, what's the next fair over/under?
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April 25th, 2019 at 11:43:51 PM permalink
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My biggest question about him is, what took him so long to get on Jeopardy?

I read that in an interview he said that he took the online test 13 times (every year since it’s been offered) and had two in-person auditions before he was invited on the show. I also read that by the time you get to the in-person auditions, at that point it's more about personality than trivia knowledge.
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April 26th, 2019 at 3:56:52 AM permalink
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...This is not to dis him in any way. I'm filled with admiration at how he's doing. I just don't think he's infallible.

do not diss the Holzhauer. When I made some observations, some thought I was taking a shot at him ... I felt like a pariah for a while there!
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April 26th, 2019 at 3:59:24 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I read that in an interview he said that he took the online test 13 times (every year since it’s been offered) and had two in-person auditions before he was invited on the show. I also read that by the time you get to the in-person auditions, at that point it's more about personality than trivia knowledge.



100% this.
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April 26th, 2019 at 4:01:16 AM permalink
For those interested, there is video out there with today's unaired show.

https://youtu.be/BHGBByFWNbw
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April 26th, 2019 at 7:21:46 AM permalink
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For those interested, there is video out there with today's unaired show.

https://youtu.be/BHGBByFWNbw


Thanks for the link, that was the first time I’ve watched a whole jeopardy episode in ten years.
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April 29th, 2019 at 9:02:12 AM permalink
LOVE that I can watch these earlier than 7pm. Make sure you don't miss this episode.
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April 29th, 2019 at 9:22:22 AM permalink
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LOVE that I can watch these earlier than 7pm. Make sure you don't miss this episode.



Is today’s episode online? Where?
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April 29th, 2019 at 9:29:18 AM permalink
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Is today’s episode online? Where?

here - as has been said above well worth watching.
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April 29th, 2019 at 9:35:45 AM permalink
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here - as has been said above well worth watching.



I cheated and skipped though quick...wow.
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April 29th, 2019 at 9:56:47 AM permalink
Quote: SkittleCar1

Quote: charliepatrick

here - as has been said above well worth watching.



I cheated and skipped though quick...wow.



Wow is right!
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April 29th, 2019 at 10:17:10 AM permalink
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I cheated and skipped though quick...wow.

I thoroughly recommend to others don't cheat and watch it from the very first question.

It's rather like you turned up at a soccer match at 89th minute and found Southampton were drawing with Bournemouth this weekend: you wouldn't have seen how the game had developed (or some great goals). (I support "Saints" and we had a great match this weekend with a youngster heading in his first goal to take the lead again. It ensured we stayed in the Premier League next year so there was some celebrations.)
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April 29th, 2019 at 11:06:17 AM permalink
The link doesn’t work anymore! Ugh
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April 29th, 2019 at 11:08:34 AM permalink
I can’t find it anywhere online 😢
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April 29th, 2019 at 7:39:26 PM permalink
Wow! Exciting! This game was not a runaway victory for him, for only the second time! That Adam Levin contestant gave him a run for his money!

I think Adam's total of $53,999 is the highest-ever one-day total that did NOT win.

One more win and Holzhauer ties David Madden with 19 wins. (Madden is 3rd on the Consecutive Games Won list.)

Two more wins and he ties Julia Collins who is 2nd on the Consecutive Games Won list.
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