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April 19th, 2011 at 11:32:52 AM permalink
thecesspit
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You never look in your rear view mirror? That makes you a good driver?

Shurely shiome mistook.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
April 19th, 2011 at 11:39:58 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: thecesspit
You never look in your rear view mirror? That makes you a good driver?


You need to understand that in the minds of 99.99999999999....99999% of all the world's drivers, there is only one good driver.

I've a coworker whose hobby seems to be collecting speeding tickets. When the authorities started actually taking them into consideration for refusing to issue drivers liscences, he learned to avoid speed traps. He seems to think the speed limit is a suggestion; and he thinks the same of red lights when he's in a hurry, too. I refuse to ride with him at all.

But if you hear him talk he's the best driver that ever lived, while everyone else is either an obstacle or a traffic hazzard.
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April 19th, 2011 at 1:10:03 PM permalink
BenJammin
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Quote: Cesspit
You never look in your rear view mirror? That makes you a good driver?

No Cesspit , it means I don't have to look to see if there is a police car behind me. It's a figure of ENGLISH speech.

Comprende?

Some people just think they are better drivers. Some KNOW it.

In addition to a driving test, I believe there should be a test for rudimentary intelligence. I'm sure that would help to clear the roadways, at least here in Los Angeles.

As far as Las Vegas, why do you think auto insurance (assuming you have any) costs three times as much in Las Vegas/Clark County as it does here?

It isn't all drunken tourists. What could it be?
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April 19th, 2011 at 1:19:32 PM permalink
thecesspit
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Quote: BenJammin
Quote: Cesspit
You never look in your rear view mirror? That makes you a good driver?


No Cesspit , it means I don't have to look to see if there is a police car behind me. It's a figure of ENGLISH speech.

Comprende?


Ahh, okay, no need to get tooo defensive, there was indeed a mistake, on my part of not understanding you allusion.

Seeing, as you know, checking the rear view and side-view mirrors is a sign of a good driver.

Quote:
Some people just think they are better drivers. Some KNOW it.


Sadly, these two classes are completely indistinguishable.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 5th, 2011 at 11:57:05 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
Not bad for what, $200,000?


Good news! Starting in November 2011, drivers in California, Oregon, Washington, & Hawaii will be able to purchase the all electric 2012 Mitsubishi i for $27,999. (If you include the $7,500 federal tax credit, the price drops to $20,500.) It takes 22 hours to charge the damn thing with a household plug, so realistically, the price is $29,999 after adding on the $2,000 quick charger which delivers a full charge in 7 hours.

The Mitsubishi i has a range of 62 miles per charge. Since about 75 percent of Americans live within 20 miles of their workplace, the car's range ought to be adequate for most commutes. The big mystery: how will the range be affected by cold weather? Mitsubishi plans to deliver the i to dealers in the Northeast in March 2012, so we'll find out soon enough. Tesla already sells electric cars in balmy Chicago, so apparently there's a market for these overpriced gadgets in places besides Hawaii.

Speaking of Tesla, you get what you pay for: the Tesla Roadster can do 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. The Mitsubishi i can do 0 to 60 in 15 seconds. (Yikes, even a Toyota Yaris can do 0 to 60 in 9 seconds.) But that's the difference between a $29,999 electric car and a $108,000 electric car.

To put it in perspective, the Mitsubishi is significantly cheaper than the Nissan Leaf ($36,000) or the Chevy Volt ($41,000). Americans are getting a bargain: Japanese drivers pay US$43,000 for the Mitsubishi i, and the price of gasoline is over US$6.50 per gallon in Japan.
September 6th, 2011 at 7:11:44 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: reno
The Mitsubishi i has a range of 62 miles per charge. Since about 75 percent of Americans live within 20 miles of their workplace, the car's range ought to be adequate for most commutes.


Maybe so. But it is inadequate for many other things. Like going to the next town on business, or taking a trip, or in some places going to the other end of town and back. Therefore you'd need to have a second car for such things, or pay cabs, or endure public transportation, when the marvelous 62 mile range car can't get you there and back.
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October 14th, 2011 at 3:43:30 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
The 1904 all electric Woods Victoria had a top speed of 18 miles per hour.

The 1904 all electric Baker Stanhope had a top speed of 14 miles per hour.

The 1911 all electric Anderson Detroit Electric had a top speed of 20 miles per hour.

The 2011 all electric Tesla Roadster has a top speed of 125 miles per hour.



Saw this article and it reminded me of this discussion. Seems range for the Volt is stuck where it was years ago.
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