markos
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January 13th, 2010 at 1:40:22 PM permalink
I have noticed that almost all casinos require to play your bonus money for example 20 times before you can withdraw them.They also do not allow any games like roullete or blackjack to do so.
Why is that?Is it possible that someone playing these games will meet the wagering requirements having left any money in his account?
AZDuffman
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January 13th, 2010 at 2:05:39 PM permalink
Quote: markos

I have noticed that almost all casinos require to play your bonus money for example 20 times before you can withdraw them.They also do not allow any games like roullete or blackjack to do so.
Why is that?Is it possible that someone playing these games will meet the wagering requirements having left any money in his account?



That is mostly it. Maybe when USA Players are allowed again we will get some juicy bonuses again.
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dwheatley
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January 13th, 2010 at 7:01:58 PM permalink
The restrictions I normally see are for Craps, Baccarat and Roulette, and some very low-edge blackjack games. The 1st 3 are because you can bet both sides of a bet and grind out the requirement without any risk.
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January 13th, 2010 at 9:03:19 PM permalink
I've said this before, but if you're playing for the bonus only, and they give it to you up front, then be very aggressive at first. Shoot the moon, or go bust trying. If you make it to the moon, then grind through the play requirement at whatever allowed game has the lowest house edge.
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January 14th, 2010 at 6:39:39 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I've said this before, but if you're playing for the bonus only, and they give it to you up front, then be very aggressive at first. Shoot the moon, or go bust trying. If you make it to the moon, then grind through the play requirement at whatever allowed game has the lowest house edge.



Just be careful here because a lot of online casinos have now imposed restrictions on how much you can bet with an up front bonus. For example, some casinos have clauses where they can void your bonus if you bet more than, say, 20% of your balance on any one hand or spin.

I've also seen some very nasty bonuses that limit your withdrawal to 20X your deposit+bonus amount, the excess becoming void.

Some terms and conditions state that wagers on prohibited games, like video poker, for example, don't count towards wagering requirements. Others state that what ever winnings you earned from playing video poker will be removed from your account (they won't reverse your losses, of course). And some others will completely void everything if you play even just one hand a video poker, refunding only your deposit when you ask to withdraw.

Basically, playing with bonuses is playing with fire these days. The problem is you can't get an edge online without bonus hustling. I remember I use to get periodic match bonuses from a certain decent online casino. I used them a couple of times - fairly and all within the their rules, won a bit and withdrew on a few occasions and surprise surprise, I am bonus banned. So I have basically just given up on online casinos.
markos
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January 14th, 2010 at 12:00:33 PM permalink
O.K but is it possible to meet the wager requirements without risking your capital?Of course not playing slot machines but for example a low-edge blackjack game or videopoker or roullete(but playing normally not betting on red AND black)?In other words playing not to win but to get the bonus money or at least some of it.If for example you have let's say 100(original capital 50+bonus 50)and must play 100x20=2000 on roullete or 100x100=10000 on blackjack can you do so knowing that in the end you will have left in your account your original capital+a part of the bonus?
pacomartin
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January 16th, 2010 at 4:19:13 PM permalink
I don't have a lot of experience but I've noticed some places restrict the bonus money to games with very high house edges (like certain slot machines).

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