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the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism

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January 27th, 2012 at 11:06:59 AM permalink
Mosca
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January 27th, 2012 at 11:11:23 AM permalink
s2dbaker
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It's a good thing he got converted because now he gets his own planet to rule as a God, just like Elohim from the planet Kolob rules over the earth.

Did he really call that "hogwash"? It makes perfect sense to me.
January 27th, 2012 at 11:36:16 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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So this is why the Wizard thinks Mormonism has some appeal!!
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January 27th, 2012 at 11:38:50 AM permalink
pokerface
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Quote: Mosca

I'd be pissed at this, except it doesn't make a damn bit of difference and is actually laughable. The hubris.

completely agree
January 27th, 2012 at 11:50:21 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Mosca
I'd be pissed at this, except it doesn't make a damn bit of difference and is actually laughable. The hubris.


It just goes to show you religious people are no more likely to be respectful of the dead than anyone else.

Did they spit on his grave, for good measure, or just dance on top of it?
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January 27th, 2012 at 12:59:58 PM permalink
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Quote: odiousgambit
So this is why the Wizard thinks Mormonism has some appeal!!


That wasn't one of my reasons, but I don't think it is any more ridiculous than some of the things that mainstream protestants and Catholics believe. For example, Adam & Eve, Noah's ark, and Jonah and the whale.
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January 27th, 2012 at 1:33:31 PM permalink
sunrise089
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Quote: Wizard
Quote: odiousgambit
So this is why the Wizard thinks Mormonism has some appeal!!


That wasn't one of my reasons, but I don't think it is any more ridiculous than some of the things that mainstream protestants and Catholics believe. For example, Adam & Eve, Noah's ark, and Jonah and the whale.


As a (I hope) both respectful but also believing Protestant, I greatly admire and respect elements of Mormonism, but I agree with odiousgambit about this being silly. I take the Wizard's point about, say, Jonah and the Whale, but I think there are two key differences:

1) What's being done here is explicitly against the free will of the deceased. Even if it doesn't "matter" to him I think it's still very disrespectful.

2) In my mind at least stories like the Wizard cited, whether one believes they're true or not, are sort of of periphery importance in the faith. This is about the actual act of salvation, which in a religion that believes in such a thing should be treated with great care.
January 27th, 2012 at 1:37:13 PM permalink
Scotty71
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Fighting for real estate in heaven...
On a serious note I think the whole idea is it really indoctrinates one into the faith. If find it very weird but not as cool as "sister wives"
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January 27th, 2012 at 2:55:33 PM permalink
RaspberryCheeseBlintz
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Quote: sunrise089
Quote: Wizard
Quote: odiousgambit
So this is why the Wizard thinks Mormonism has some appeal!!


That wasn't one of my reasons, but I don't think it is any more ridiculous than some of the things that mainstream protestants and Catholics believe. For example, Adam & Eve, Noah's ark, and Jonah and the whale.


As a (I hope) both respectful but also believing Protestant, I greatly admire and respect elements of Mormonism, but I agree with odiousgambit about this being silly. I take the Wizard's point about, say, Jonah and the Whale, but I think there are two key differences:

1) What's being done here is explicitly against the free will of the deceased. Even if it doesn't "matter" to him I think it's still very disrespectful.

2) In my mind at least stories like the Wizard cited, whether one believes they're true or not, are sort of of periphery importance in the faith. This is about the actual act of salvation, which in a religion that believes in such a thing should be treated with great care.


And to think, just 40 years ago, according to this "admirable" faith black people were the spawn of Shatan. Though thankfully, after several million years God reconsidered, and this is no longer said to be the case (for now anyway...God works in mysterious ways after all). Lol, but not...
January 27th, 2012 at 3:16:03 PM permalink
teddys
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This was a big controversy when Mormons were baptising ancestors who were Jewish Holocaust survivors. I admit I don't know much about baptism for the deceased, but it does seem a little weird.
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