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odiousgambit
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December 22nd, 2011 at 4:43:28 AM permalink
from the 'dealer interview' thread
Quote: Zcore13

I thought the Wiz was married?? No ring during the interview... Hmmmmmmm :)



Vote: If a married man, do you wear one? or if not male & married do you think a married man should wear a wedding ring?

My father did not wear one, but I think that was more common with those who grew up in the depression like him. Personally, I also decline to wear one; it took a while for my wife to accept that while we were affianced.

Here are the reasons for my objection:

*my father did not wear one
*it is always a crummy gold band seems to me!
*I know someone who got their ring caught in a rising overhead door and nearly lost the finger.
*seeing as how a cheap ring is the deal, it is an insult to say you must wear it just because she wants you to.
*now I can cite the Wizard as providing an example [g]
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December 22nd, 2011 at 5:46:44 AM permalink
It IS always a crummy gold band. This is because, unlike an engagement ring, a wedding band must be simple, with an easily estimated value.

I wear one, and feel naked when it's not on. I do not wear any other jewelry. Not even a wristwatch.


Quote: odiousgambit

*I know someone who got their ring caught in a rising overhead door and nearly lost the finger.

I know someone who, when playing a pick-up game of football, jumped over a fence to retrieve the ball. His class ring got caught in the top of the fence. Now when he shakes hands, it feels like he's giving you the goosey finger.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:08:42 AM permalink
You've omitted from the poll the most common situation.

"I'm a male and I'm Not Married but my wife is married". That means she wears a wedding ring, he doesn't.

Of course nowadays some women will put on a wedding ring when they go into a bar just to get "better action".
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December 22nd, 2011 at 7:33:54 AM permalink
Woudn't it be more accurate for men to wear a collar? :P
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December 22nd, 2011 at 7:33:59 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

It IS always a crummy gold band. This is because, unlike an engagement ring, a wedding band must be simple, with an easily estimated value.


I see simple, but what does value have to do with it?
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December 22nd, 2011 at 9:13:00 AM permalink
I don't remember the exact reason why, but to quote from my own wedding script, when I put on my Reverend Dave Miller hat:
"Wedding rings are a symbol of the vows taken, and not a price paid to purchase a spouse."

Of course, this begs the question of the overly expensive engagement ring...
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December 22nd, 2011 at 9:45:31 AM permalink
I can't answer. I see no need for men or women to wear one, but -I- would wear one (I'm unmarried) as a simple symbol. Doesn't have to be gold. My father's is a simple brass ring, but the symbol is more important than the value.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 10:35:34 AM permalink
I don't mind wearing mine, its a simple thing, why not.
I would never cheat on my wife in a million years anyway,
even if I wanted to. Cheaters are scum, I don't like being
scum.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 11:40:41 AM permalink
I used to wear mine, but based on the patterns and ridges it almost impossible to keep clean. I ended up turning into a bit of a germaphobe over the years and the wedding ring is just one more disgusting bacteria trap. I take it off to wash my hands and then I am always worried about forgetting it. So I only wear it during special outings like church, Christmas parties, etc. A few years back at an old job, my employer wouldn't let us wear our rings for safety reasons so I think that also had an effect on my decision to not wear it all the time.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 1:02:31 PM permalink
I tried to talk my wife out of it, based on my previous thoughts that "gems and precious metals" are relatively useless. But of course, she wanted it so I didn't put up a fight. It sucks now though because she can't wear it to work for fear of it getting destroyed, so I'm constantly seeing my new 4wheeler sitting idly on the kitchen counter. =/

Mine's a plain stainless steel band, which if I have to wear one, is exactly what I want. Doesn't bend, doesn't tarnish, doesn't cost anything, I can do a lube job and get all greasy and not worry about it, can fish without getting fishy bits all in the ornate etching. I suppose I like wearing one more than not wearing one, if only to prevent the awkwardness of unwanted advances. And I know there's been a few times when I would have smashed my fingers piling logs or closing a door where my ring saved me.

About the only time I HAVE to have it off is golfing, but I'll often take it off for anything where I may get injured so I don't have to get it cut off if I break a finger. If for some reason it had to be gold, though, I'd refuse to wear it.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 1:22:35 PM permalink
10 years ago my wife gave me this men's wedding ring
and I wear it with the gold band that all married men
wear. I really like it.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 5:24:56 PM permalink
Not married, chances of meeting a woman I want to marry seem so low I have basically given up even looking. One of my big issues is finding a woman who has no desire to have kids (I have no desire, never have.) Seems to eliminate 90% of the female population. But back to the subject.

I assume this question is more of a "what would you do" than "what do you think others should do." I wouldn't want to wear one. I positively hate wearing any kind of jewelry. I also do not even wear a watch since my phone has a clock and I ruined my last watch thinking it was water-resistant. I bought a HS class ring, wore it one day, hated it so much haven't worn it since. I might take it to Gold and Silver Pawn my next trip out there. I even tried getting it resized, no help. Rings are plain annoying for me to wear.

Add in the safety-thing. I work 98% white-collar office, but have heard of guys getting rings caught on stuff. As a guy, there are enough times I might get into something even if just to lend a hand and forget I have the ring on, well, no thanks.

Only reason I would wear one would be to see if it helps pick up women.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:24:24 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I might take it to Gold and Silver Pawn my next trip out there.



You'll get more for it on Ebay. G&S will weigh it, look at the gold content,
and then give you dick for it.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:28:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You'll get more for it on Ebay. G&S will weigh it, look at the gold content,
and then give you dick for it.



I know it only has scrap value. If you at least act as though you want to sell you go to the front of the line.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:35:37 PM permalink
As was noticed, I don't wear a wedding ring. Somehow I don't like the idea of clothing or jewelry defining who you are. I've also said in an old post that I get treated better by women when I wear it.

Here is a wedding ring story for you. At first I did wear one, and my first one was 24k gold. My first juggling session after my honeymoon, involving passing pins with a friend, the ring got all smashed out of shape. Just goes to show how soft pure gold is. Then I got one of some kind of gold alloy, which help up fine for years until I quit wearing it.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:35:37 PM permalink
On Ebay you get people from high schools looking
for specific rings. I would buy one from my year
of graduation from my HS if I could find one. I
bought a HS ring from G&S (from Chumlee) about
a year before their show went on the air. I paid $80
for it and about 6 months later sold it on Ebay for
$140, to somebody from the HS that the ring was
from.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 6:39:02 PM permalink
I am male and received a nice wedding band when I married. About a year later, I lost both my wedding band and my class ring (wore them both on the same finger) through an act of careless stupidity. Some time later, my wife gave me a replacement class ring and suggested that I wear it as representing both. Didn't really understand that, but I still have it, still wear it, and we have been married a bit over 43 years, so I guess it works, whatever "it" is.

I think one benefit of a married woman wearing a wedding ring is to help avoid being hit on (in spite of the opinion of the earlier poster who suggested it increases action in bars.) Considering this perspective in light of my not wearing an obvious wedding band myself, I have never been faced with the problem of being hit on either before or after I married. There are some benefits (?) of being homely and boring. ;-)
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December 22nd, 2011 at 7:50:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

10 years ago my wife gave me this men's wedding ring
and I wear it with the gold band that all married men
wear. I really like it.



I like this one. I have 9 small diamonds going across my ring, with brushed gold above and below the diamonds. I didn't want just a plain gold band, for a couple of reasons. First, I have smaller than average hands & fingers and thought they looked bad on me. Secondly, I wanted her to spend at least a decent fraction of the cost of her ring on my ring. I've always thought it was unfair that women get very expensive rings and guys get plain gold bands that cost a couple hundred bucks.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 8:49:35 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Not married, chances of meeting a woman I want to marry seem so low I have basically given up even looking. One of my big issues is finding a woman who has no desire to have kids (I have no desire, never have.) Seems to eliminate 90% of the female population.



Or you could just get a vasectomy and just omit the fact. You get back that 90% of the market, and you get to TRY like crazy. You can thank me later!
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December 22nd, 2011 at 9:58:04 PM permalink
Regarding not wanting to have kids. It's very strange when you find just the right woman. I felt the same way as you did, until I met my wife. She must have hit a chemical trigger in the form of pheromones....etc that triggered a response in my brain that made me want to actually have kids. Before, with others I never wanted to have kids. It was just with her. Women are far more powerful than you realize.

Going deeper. If the women you date are on the pill, then it's very likely that you will never have the response that I had. As long as a woman is on the pill, the pheromones that she releases will enable you to remain in control. However, if you date a woman that is NOT on the pill, then it's very possible that her pheromones will rewire your brain in a very short period of time. You will also find that you will have a stronger attraction toward the women that are NOT on the pill. And FYI, there is some supporting information available on the internet regarding male response and the use of the pill.
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December 22nd, 2011 at 11:49:07 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

However, if you date a woman that is NOT on the pill, then it's very possible that her pheromones will rewire your brain in a very short period of time.



Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?
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December 23rd, 2011 at 3:52:27 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?



I believe that was in the book Freakonomics
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December 23rd, 2011 at 4:36:55 AM permalink
Quote: MarieBicurie

Or you could just get a vasectomy and just omit the fact. You get back that 90% of the market, and you get to TRY like crazy. You can thank me later!



I'd have no problem getting one. Actually gave it a very cursory look, found some if not many urologists refuse to perform the procedure on younger guys (which I no longer am.) Also wondered about the "it didn't take" thing. Not sure if that is real or a soap-opera invention. I have heard there is a reversable procedure and an irreversible one. I do know one guy who had one and had another kid with a second wife after.
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December 23rd, 2011 at 4:52:38 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Regarding not wanting to have kids. It's very strange when you find just the right woman. I felt the same way as you did, until I met my wife. She must have hit a chemical trigger in the form of pheromones....etc that triggered a response in my brain that made me want to actually have kids. Before, with others I never wanted to have kids. It was just with her. Women are far more powerful than you realize.




Perhaps the right one will come along, or maybe I missed her already, and change my interest in being in a relationship-something I have given up on as I stated. But the kid thing, that would be some woman. It isn't that I never wanted to have them, it is that always DIDN'T want to have any. Some people can't wait; some accept whatever happens; some like you change their mind with the right person. I seriously can't see it with me as I have one of those all-on-logic/very unemotional personality types. I am one of the people eHarmony.com told to go elsewhere as they could not match me.

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Going deeper. If the women you date are on the pill, then it's very likely that you will never have the response that I had. As long as a woman is on the pill, the pheromones that she releases will enable you to remain in control. However, if you date a woman that is NOT on the pill, then it's very possible that her pheromones will rewire your brain in a very short period of time. You will also find that you will have a stronger attraction toward the women that are NOT on the pill. And FYI, there is some supporting information available on the internet regarding male response and the use of the pill.



This I totally buy. Phermones are way more powerful than people understand. Not just in physical attraction, either. I was at a sales management training one time and the guy said if you wouldn't buy the product, people will key in on the phermone you are giving off and not trust you and probably not buy. The salesman will never know why this is happening. I do remember nights when I went on the prowl with an "I don't care" attitude women would come to me far more often than a "night on a mission."

Back in my termite and pest control days they told us all about phermones in nature, they are powerful stuff there. Humans are part of nature, we just don't follow it manytimes.
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December 23rd, 2011 at 6:31:35 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?

Waaaaay out of my field, but I am very skeptical of that theory. If there really is a genuine increase in revenue during that anti-period (and if it is related to the ovulation cycle), I suspect it is more likely due to some kind of resulting changes in the performance that is given than some innate perceptive skill of the customer.

I haven't read Freakonomics, so maybe they have an explanation I haven't considered.
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December 24th, 2011 at 12:23:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Maybe this is just an urban legend, but I heard or read somewhere that strippers make the most money when they are in their most fertile point in their ovulation cycle. The theory being that men somehow sense/smell this and shower them with more money. Doc?



Quote: Doc

Waaaaay out of my field, but I am very skeptical of that theory. If there really is a genuine increase in revenue during that anti-period (and if it is related to the ovulation cycle), I suspect it is more likely due to some kind of resulting changes in the performance that is given than some innate perceptive skill of the customer.




Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704681904576313243579677316.html

"The females given the contraceptive became overall less appealing to the males than before getting the injection, says Christine Drea, a professor in Duke's evolutionary anthropology department and senior author on the study. The contraceptive erased all the normal information the odor signals conveyed, she says.

Though the study would need to be conducted in humans to draw direct conclusions, there are potential parallels to people, Dr. Drea says. Birth control "could be mixing up your own [signals] and others aren't smelling the real you," she says."



Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/birth-control-change-human-attraction-study-claims/story?id=8772136

"Men, meanwhile, have been found to be more attracted to women during the time of the month when they are most fertile. One study of exotic dancers published last year suggested that those who were not on the pill would see a rise in their tips around the time they reached peak fertility."
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December 24th, 2011 at 1:46:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I don't mind wearing mine, its a simple thing, why not.
I would never cheat on my wife in a million years anyway,
even if I wanted to. Cheaters are scum, I don't like being
scum.

I didnt see the origin of this thread but its interesting how you segued into cheating when the question is do u wear a wedding ring, not if you don't wear one are you thinking of cheating. I know alot of men who dont like to wear them because of the work they do and it's a pain to take them off and keep them secure....my ex had to scrub in for surgery and woukd tie it to his scrubs but he still lost it.

I wouldnt assume that a man who doesnt wear a wedding ring is wanting to cheat but more preference of not wearing any jewelry. I say doth protest too much Evenbob....nothing was said about cheating vs. Wedding ring....you were quite vocal about the cheating topic in my thread even when i prefaced my thread with knowing i was very wrong and asking for compassionate advice.We get it. U think cheaters are scum. My observation is you seem fairly self righteous....as if you dont ever make mistakes or decisions that are less than perfect.
Maybe you are just highly judgmental....or maybe the topic hits close to home. Who knows but my guess from reading your posts it's the former.

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December 24th, 2011 at 1:54:33 PM permalink
Keyser, thank you for the additional information. To express my thoughts, I might repeat my entire previous post, but for now just say I'm still very skeptical.

Your first quotation refers to research on lemurs, not humans. The same article has a related comment about humans:
Quote: the cited wsj article

Women tend to exhibit subtle cues when they are ovulating, and men tend to find them more attractive at this time. Women try to look more attractive, perhaps by wearing tighter or more revealing clothing, says Martie Haselton, a communications and psychology professor at the University of California, Los Angeles.

I read this as supporting my earlier suggestion that ovulation likely leads to changes in the "performance" -- in the case in the article, to wearing "tighter or more revealing clothing." I don't see it as suggesting (human) men are able to sniff out ovulation and would explicitly find that condition to be enough more attractive that they would toke the strippers more. (No, I have no idea how an ovulating stripper changes a performance to get better tokes. If I did, I might try to sell that info to strippers; surely a "natural" performance change could be faked.)
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December 24th, 2011 at 1:59:55 PM permalink
I wonder if maybe the stripper effect is seen because women are just nicer during ovulation. They certainly can be the opposite of nice at other times of the month.
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December 24th, 2011 at 2:05:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

They certainly can be the opposite of nice at other times of the month.



An understatement if there ever was one. The thing
with women is, you never know what's going to set
them off next. When I was young, I read the best
women are are on TV and in movies, and in books
written by men. Thats because they aren't real, its
the authors fantasy of what women should be like,
not what they're really like. I'll take the company of
men any day, women wear me down, their brains
work in a totally different way than ours.
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December 24th, 2011 at 3:54:48 PM permalink
Doc,

There's loads of additional supporting information for you if you would really like to view it.
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December 24th, 2011 at 6:41:54 PM permalink
Thanks, Keyser, but no. As I said in the beginning, this is waaaay out of my area -- to far out for me to develop much interest. I likely wouldn't have posted at all except for the brief request/suggestion from our host.
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December 24th, 2011 at 8:14:01 PM permalink
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I likely wouldn't have posted at all except for the brief request/suggestion from our host.



That's why I had to prod you out a bit.
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December 25th, 2011 at 3:56:23 AM permalink
Much of the studies are conducted amongst the Hutterite sects in the Dakotas and Canada since they use no deoderants and no perfumes as well as no contraceptive pills.
American women are usually on the pill and so response is blunted but often college girls can do the old "sniff a tee shirt, eat a saltine, sniff a tee shirt routine" and choose the man she would most like to date ... which will be the one whose sweat soaked tee shirt reveals has innate immunity most dissimilar to hers which then confers on offspring the best combination of innate immunity MHC genes. Works best if they are ovulating at the time and not on the pill, but this "not on the pill" is hard to find these days.
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February 7th, 2012 at 10:21:17 PM permalink
I would say that there are no rules about wearing a man wedding ring. Its up to either the man or the couple together to make a decision that will he wear or won't he. There are a variety of considerations. The wearing of a men's wedding ring is just one of the many choices that man will have to make, once he makes the commitment to marry. I think culture is also one of the consideration. In many cultures the wearing of wedding rings by men would never be considered. Men must think about how their particular culture, and also their religion, would view the wearing of a wedding band.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:07:12 PM permalink
Hi.., Wearing ring all the time is just a remembrance that you are engaged and its make you think about your responsibilities. We never taken off the rings. If your not willing to have the rings then take off them and leave them at home. But I don't think the ring is awkward for you.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:17:51 PM permalink
Thanks, but I don't need a ring to make me think about my responsibilities.

The ring is in a box somewhere. It, umm, got tighter over the years. Neither of us wear one anymore. Still married though.

As an aside, my dad almost killed himself working with amateur radio gear. Current went in the ring and, thankfully, out the watch. He never wore the band again.
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