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April 3rd, 2024 at 1:01:22 PM permalink
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Yeah, it's only certain fast food places that got the wage hike.
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Watching Company Man doing In-N-Out Burger today, he mentions how they are expanding far out of CA. Coincidence??
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April 4th, 2024 at 4:53:16 PM permalink
I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. I saw a total eclipse once years and years ago it was a huge disappointment for all the hype involved. While it's happening every other person says, think what they must have thought this was a thousand years ago. And they think they're original in saying that even though every other person there is saying the same thing. Just like they will be this time. If it was happening at my house, the total eclipse, I would not go outdoors to see it. And it's 99% here on the 8th. I hope it's cloudy. Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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April 4th, 2024 at 5:01:37 PM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. {snip} Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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For a few moments there I thought you were talking about 'sex'.
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April 4th, 2024 at 8:18:34 PM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. I saw a total eclipse once years and years ago it was a huge disappointment for all the hype involved. While it's happening every other person says, think what they must have thought this was a thousand years ago. And they think they're original in saying that even though every other person there is saying the same thing. Just like they will be this time. If it was happening at my house, the total eclipse, I would not go outdoors to see it. And it's 99% here on the 8th. I hope it's cloudy. Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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I get what you’re saying EvenBob people make a big deal about nothing. It’s like the Grand Canyon it’s just a big hole in the ground. What’s the big deal.
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April 4th, 2024 at 10:40:03 PM permalink
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If a skydiver jumps out of a plane without a parachute but has a device on his back attached to a large empty bag, and if the device is a battery powered machine that starts sucking air from the surrounding atmosphere and forcing it into the bag through a one-way valve; then how big does the bag have to become to sufficiently slow him down before he hits the ground assuming he has reached terminal velocity.
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Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but the fan pushing air into the bag is also reacting in the opposite direction. Since it's on the volunteer's back and most people want to see there they are going (and hence facing downward) the fan would be actually shoving the skydiver towards the ground.

OTOH, if the volunteer is facing upwards, then the fan is actually helping slow the fall with its constant thrust upwards. The bag's resistance, however, drapes the skydiver and the fan's inlet, defeating the entire scheme.
There is no good solution, since attempting to route the output of a chest-mounted but downward blowing fan through ducting to a back-mounted bag (to eliminate fouling) results in nullification of all thrust at the U-turn, and downward thrust at the duct/bag interface.
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April 4th, 2024 at 10:55:21 PM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. I saw a total eclipse once years and years ago it was a huge disappointment for all the hype involved. While it's happening every other person says, think what they must have thought this was a thousand years ago. And they think they're original in saying that even though every other person there is saying the same thing. Just like they will be this time. If it was happening at my house, the total eclipse, I would not go outdoors to see it. And it's 99% here on the 8th. I hope it's cloudy. Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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The eclipse in 2017 was 2min, 20 seconds. The one on Monday will be about double that. The one in 2027 over the Rock of Gibraltar will be almost the maximum possible: six and a half minutes.

In the not too distant past, eclipses only excited scientists, astronomers, and curiously, theoretical physicists. Total solar eclipses were necessary for the discovery of solar helium and the solar corona as well as verification of Einstein's Theory of Relativity

It wasn't until I saw the 2017 eclipse before I realized exactly how weird they are in person and how impossible it is for a camera to capture that weirdness. First of all, the setting: A twilight completely unlike any other twilight--the closest I've been able to describe it is that it is similar to how 1950s TV shows tried to show night by putting dark filters in front of the lens: the light levels drop, but the colors do not skew like they do during regular twilight. Next you have the Moon Illusion, where the Moon seems to be far larger to our eyes than it is through a camera lens.

The result is a really large black spot in a surreally dark sky (with brightly lit sky elsewhere). The central spot is not entirely dark, either, but filled with a pearlescent glow from refracted coronal glow that is pure white, rather than the yellow-tinged sunlight.

It's weird, it's beautiful, and it's rare. It's the astronomical equivalent of a large flawless diamond. But then some people call that "just a clear expensive rock that's not worth what you pay for it".
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April 5th, 2024 at 1:19:49 AM permalink
Terre haute Indiana casino opens this morning at 1030am. Should be a madhouse. Lots of giveaways. Owned by Churchill downs
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April 5th, 2024 at 2:31:22 AM permalink
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If a skydiver jumps out of a plane without a parachute but has a device on his back attached to a large empty bag, and if the device is a battery powered machine that starts sucking air from the surrounding atmosphere and forcing it into the bag through a one-way valve; then how big does the bag have to become to sufficiently slow him down before he hits the ground assuming he has reached terminal velocity.
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Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but the fan pushing air into the bag is also reacting in the opposite direction. Since it's on the volunteer's back and most people want to see there they are going (and hence facing downward) the fan would be actually shoving the skydiver towards the ground.

OTOH, if the volunteer is facing upwards, then the fan is actually helping slow the fall with its constant thrust upwards. The bag's resistance, however, drapes the skydiver and the fan's inlet, defeating the entire scheme.
There is no good solution, since attempting to route the output of a chest-mounted but downward blowing fan through ducting to a back-mounted bag (to eliminate fouling) results in nullification of all thrust at the U-turn, and downward thrust at the duct/bag interface.
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Make sure to tell this to the coyote, it might be where he went wrong.
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April 5th, 2024 at 9:13:20 AM permalink
Wonder if the earthquake in Taiwan could have triggered the earthquake in the NY, NJ area?
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April 5th, 2024 at 12:24:45 PM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. ......... Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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This might explain it.
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April 5th, 2024 at 1:29:07 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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April 5th, 2024 at 2:09:24 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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April 5th, 2024 at 2:14:22 PM permalink
Sounds like you should try paramotoring. And even if your don’t enjoy it, you might enjoy the annoyance you can inflict on your neighbors by riding what sounds like a motorcycle in the air around them.
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April 5th, 2024 at 2:42:49 PM permalink
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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April 5th, 2024 at 3:09:39 PM permalink
Couple of cool and not so cool Vegas observations
The huge video billboards in front of every casino these days
Cool : Showing the odds of the NCAA Mens games
Not Cool : Selling time on the video billboards to advertisers showing commercials
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April 5th, 2024 at 4:50:22 PM permalink
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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When you have no expectations then you never have any disappointments. Overvalued expectations or what make people depressed, nothing is ever as good as you think it's going to be. So don't have any overvalued expectations. That's why people have favorite foods, because they know exactly what they're going to get and they know exactly how they're going to feel about it. Their expectations are exactly in line with what they get.
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April 6th, 2024 at 7:13:24 AM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. {snip} Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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For a few moments there I thought you were talking about 'sex'.
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I wish sex lasted 3 minutes
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April 6th, 2024 at 7:28:17 AM permalink
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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When you have no expectations then you never have any disappointments. Overvalued expectations or what make people depressed, nothing is ever as good as you think it's going to be. So don't have any overvalued expectations. That's why people have favorite foods, because they know exactly what they're going to get and they know exactly how they're going to feel about it. Their expectations are exactly in line with what they get.
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A truly jaundiced post. A "scrooge" outlook on life which, for me, reflects the insignificance of your posts of EB advice.

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April 6th, 2024 at 8:08:42 AM permalink
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I wish sex lasted 3 minutes
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Me too. At my age it usually lasts a lot longer than that, 3 minutes would be perfect.
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April 6th, 2024 at 9:20:36 AM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. I saw a total eclipse once years and years ago it was a huge disappointment for all the hype involved. While it's happening every other person says, think what they must have thought this was a thousand years ago. And they think they're original in saying that even though every other person there is saying the same thing. Just like they will be this time. If it was happening at my house, the total eclipse, I would not go outdoors to see it. And it's 99% here on the 8th. I hope it's cloudy. Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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I traveled about 800 miles in 2017 to join a group of WoV for the eclipse. It was completely worth it, and a lifetime event to be in totality. But I don't need to see it again. I remember every phase of it, especially beautiful as we were on a hilltop in the Cherokee National Forest. So I'm not going anywhere near the path, and I won't miss it.

Probably everyone should see it once if they can. After that, meh.
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April 6th, 2024 at 11:17:22 AM permalink
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I do not understand why people are fascinated with eclipses. The dang thing lasts for exactly 3 minutes and it's over. They travel hundreds of miles for 3 minutes. I saw a total eclipse once years and years ago it was a huge disappointment for all the hype involved. While it's happening every other person says, think what they must have thought this was a thousand years ago. And they think they're original in saying that even though every other person there is saying the same thing. Just like they will be this time. If it was happening at my house, the total eclipse, I would not go outdoors to see it. And it's 99% here on the 8th. I hope it's cloudy. Sadly I have found most things in life to be more interesting on video that in person. Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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I traveled about 800 miles in 2017 to join a group of WoV for the eclipse. It was completely worth it, and a lifetime event to be in totality. But I don't need to see it again. I remember every phase of it, especially beautiful as we were on a hilltop in the Cherokee National Forest. So I'm not going anywhere near the path, and I won't miss it.

Probably everyone should see it once if they can. After that, meh.
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I did see it once a couple decades ago. It gets a lot darker than you think it would, that's all I can remember about it. But you're right, seeing it once is enough. Like I said before all the hype that surrounded it it was pretty much a let down.
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April 6th, 2024 at 11:19:17 AM permalink
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A truly jaundiced post. A "scrooge" outlook on life which, for me, reflects the insignificance of your posts of EB advice.

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Thank God. The last thing I want to do is post anything that would make you in the least bit happy.
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April 6th, 2024 at 1:13:14 PM permalink
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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Remember, EB is in his own time zone, so he has like two extra hours a day to be disappointed with everything.
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April 6th, 2024 at 2:04:08 PM permalink
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A truly jaundiced post. A "scrooge" outlook on life which, for me, reflects the insignificance of your posts of EB advice.

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Thank God. The last thing I want to do is post anything that would make you in the least bit happy.
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Not sure what this post has to do with your worldview or my happiness, but perhaps you might aspire to be the poster child for hospice.

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April 6th, 2024 at 2:05:49 PM permalink
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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Getting up in the morning just means having to get thru another day.
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April 6th, 2024 at 2:19:31 PM permalink
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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The older you get the more disappointments you get with life vs. excitement. One thing you learn is how much less exciting things are in reality vs. what you think they are. I do not get how some people get so fired up over things, probably biggest wonder for me there was Taylor Swift last year. I didn't even bother walking literally 2 blocks after work to even see the atmosphere if just o shake my head. But my poker clients had wives and daughters dropping 1-2 dimes for tickets.

Last eclipse my way was very partial. I walked outside and looked for a minute or so, then simply came back inside and went to work. Monday is showing cloudy, I will wait to see what happens at work for people going to look. I can walk away from my desk after lunch so probably take a peek, but I do not expect much.
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April 6th, 2024 at 2:21:37 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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Getting up in the morning just means having to get thru another day.
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

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April 6th, 2024 at 2:29:12 PM permalink
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Remember, EB is in his own time zone, so he has like two extra hours a day to be disappointed with everything.
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3 hours a day after the first week of November. And I'm never disappointed because I have no expectations anymore. If you have no expectations what is there to be disappointed about. For dinner I'm making something I've made dozens of times so I know I will be happy with it. Later on I'm watching a movie I've already seen twice and really liked. I'm reading a new Hemingway biography, because I've already read four or five I expect there will be no surprises here.
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April 6th, 2024 at 2:29:16 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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The older you get the more disappointments you get with life vs. excitement. One thing you learn is how much less exciting things are in reality vs. what you think they are. I do not get how some people get so fired up over things, probably biggest wonder for me there was Taylor Swift last year. I didn't even bother walking literally 2 blocks after work to even see the atmosphere if just o shake my head. But my poker clients had wives and daughters dropping 1-2 dimes for tickets.

Last eclipse my way was very partial. I walked outside and looked for a minute or so, then simply came back inside and went to work. Monday is showing cloudy, I will wait to see what happens at work for people going to look. I can walk away from my desk after lunch so probably take a peek, but I do not expect much.
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You are using the wrong pronoun. The generality is unproven. Use "I" instead of "you."

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April 6th, 2024 at 3:26:53 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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Getting up in the morning just means having to get thru another day.
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

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I currently see the system and society around me is a state of collapse. It is just a matter of time. I calculate I have about 15-19 years left in my life, really I do not see why to have a ton more. My body will be very worn out by then. Some people get upset at me having such a pragmatic view, but I am looking at reality. I hope to get quite a bit of travel in before I go though. But I have no hope for the way things are going, feeling quite like some guy in about the early 1840s seeing civil war coming while those around me are living for silly pop culture.

Strangely, though, those around me marvel that I always drag myself to work and am always trying to do some kind of personal project. So I appear motivated for some things. I just see myself as on about the 15th hole in the round.
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April 6th, 2024 at 4:12:32 PM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

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Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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April 6th, 2024 at 4:19:10 PM permalink
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Strangely, though, those around me marvel that I always drag myself to work and am always trying to do some kind of personal project. So I appear motivated for some things. I just see myself as on about the 15th hole in the round.
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It is far more depressing to see someone just sitting around, waiting to die.

I may not understand why you chose underwater basketweaving (or whatever it is) as a pastime, but it seems to be working for you.
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April 6th, 2024 at 4:40:38 PM permalink
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Strangely, though, those around me marvel that I always drag myself to work and am always trying to do some kind of personal project. So I appear motivated for some things. I just see myself as on about the 15th hole in the round.
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It is far more depressing to see someone just sitting around, waiting to die.

I may not understand why you chose underwater basketweaving (or whatever it is) as a pastime, but it seems to be working for you.
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Just passing the time. Not seeing what the excitement is all about.
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April 6th, 2024 at 4:47:44 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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Getting up in the morning just means having to get thru another day.
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

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I currently see the system and society around me is a state of collapse. It is just a matter of time. I calculate I have about 15-19 years left in my life, really I do not see why to have a ton more. My body will be very worn out by then. Some people get upset at me having such a pragmatic view, but I am looking at reality. I hope to get quite a bit of travel in before I go though. But I have no hope for the way things are going, feeling quite like some guy in about the early 1840s seeing civil war coming while those around me are living for silly pop culture.

Strangely, though, those around me marvel that I always drag myself to work and am always trying to do some kind of personal project. So I appear motivated for some things. I just see myself as on about the 15th hole in the round.
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You might have it easy. There’s plenty of people who feel that way about society who feel like they have 40-70 years of little but suffering left.
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April 6th, 2024 at 5:00:02 PM permalink
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Everything in person is always a disappointment.
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Everything in life is a disappointment.
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Not everything. My very first ride in a plane was in 1977 when I flew to Hawaii from San Francisco. It was both terrifying and exhilarating. It was terrifying because I'd never done it and because in the seventies planes were still crashing and you never knew if you were going to make it or not. But yes, most things in life are disappointing because we live in an Information Age where we know everything and what it's going to look like before it even happens. Or before we ever visit it. I remember sex was especially disappointing because I heard so much about it before I ever did it and man was it a let down.
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What a healthy perspective. So much to look forward to. Getting up in the morning must be such a joy.

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70 years left? They feel that way at age 5?

But at least they do not waste so many years hoping for things to get better. I do keep wondering what is worse, being oblivious as to all this works and getting broadsided or knowing and seeing what is happening ahead of time.

Last job I had I saw it so well I got out less than 60 days before 80% of the place was laid off. Drove by last week less cars in the lot than we had on a Sat morning. Woman there I was friends with said she wish she had my vision for it. I saw it months ahead of time.

Getting up in the morning just means having to get thru another day.
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

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I currently see the system and society around me is a state of collapse. It is just a matter of time. I calculate I have about 15-19 years left in my life, really I do not see why to have a ton more. My body will be very worn out by then. Some people get upset at me having such a pragmatic view, but I am looking at reality. I hope to get quite a bit of travel in before I go though. But I have no hope for the way things are going, feeling quite like some guy in about the early 1840s seeing civil war coming while those around me are living for silly pop culture.

Strangely, though, those around me marvel that I always drag myself to work and am always trying to do some kind of personal project. So I appear motivated for some things. I just see myself as on about the 15th hole in the round.
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You might have it easy. There’s plenty of people who feel that way about society who feel like they have 40-70 years of little but suffering left.
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April 6th, 2024 at 6:49:35 PM permalink
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It is far more depressing to see someone just sitting around, waiting to die.
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That's what we're all doing, from the day we're born. Some of us just fill in the blank space in the middle differently. I don't think about it a lot, but I also don't want to waste my time on crap that I know going to be boring and disappointing. My wife is constantly saying she wants to travel which is fine, just don't expect me to go with you. I hate traveling, it's one hassle after another with very little reward. Mark Twain felt exactly the same way, he hated being away from home, he hated being away from his own bed. I know exactly how he felt.
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April 6th, 2024 at 10:33:51 PM permalink
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It is far more depressing to see someone just sitting around, waiting to die.
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That's what we're all doing, from the day we're born. Some of us just fill in the blank space in the middle differently. I don't think about it a lot, but I also don't want to waste my time on crap that I know going to be boring and disappointing. My wife is constantly saying she wants to travel which is fine, just don't expect me to go with you. I hate traveling, it's one hassle after another with very little reward. Mark Twain felt exactly the same way, he hated being away from home, he hated being away from his own bed. I know exactly how he felt.
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I would put the emphasis on "just".
If you're doing useful or interesting things to fill some of the day, that's not "just" waiting to die.
Learn a new song on the guitar. Build something in the wood shop. Something more than absorbing TV.

All of my wives and girlfriends have been horrible at traveling. Breakups after roadtrips are a recurring theme.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 6th, 2024 at 11:14:06 PM permalink
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I would put the emphasis on "just".
If you're doing useful or interesting things to fill some of the day, that's not "just" waiting to die.

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Sure it is. You are just being creative filling in the time and ignoring the obvious. We're all going to die, it's inevitable. What you do between birth and death is irrelevant. A student once asked a zen master what's the difference between a newborn baby and an old man about to die. The master replied, no difference. The whole point of zen is getting to a place where you totally understand that.
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April 7th, 2024 at 2:49:20 AM permalink
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Mark Twain felt exactly the same way, he hated being away from home, he hated being away from his own bed.
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“Travel is fatal to prejuidce, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” -Mark Twain

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Circumnavigated the globe via the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian Oceans
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Crisscrossed India from Bombay to Darjeeling
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Lived and worked for extensive periods of time in London, Paris, Berlin, and Vienna
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April 7th, 2024 at 5:32:15 AM permalink
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Sounds like you should try paramotoring. And even if your don’t enjoy it, you might enjoy the annoyance you can inflict on your neighbors by riding what sounds like a motorcycle in the air around them.
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I think I would enjoy that.
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April 7th, 2024 at 7:30:01 AM permalink
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Sounds like you should try paramotoring. And even if your don’t enjoy it, you might enjoy the annoyance you can inflict on your neighbors by riding what sounds like a motorcycle in the air around them.
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I think I would enjoy that.
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It looks like fun. It's also probably kinda dangerous. I'd rented an upper floor beach condo in the Caribbean, heard nothing but waves, and then I heard one of those things outside and had to see what it was.

The sound may have been worse because I was above them, but my understanding is it's poor etiquette to use them anywhere around people. The noise isn't necessarily more annoying than airplanes or whatever else could pass by, it's the fact they move slowly so the noise lasts much longer than a motorcycle on the road, airplane, or whatever.
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April 7th, 2024 at 8:45:46 AM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

tuttigym
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Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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"Dial" what back?

Their negativity or my positive approach to most all things.

It seems these posters revel in being defeated ....at the tables or in what their lives have been and are going to be.

Really sad.

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April 7th, 2024 at 9:09:50 AM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

tuttigym
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Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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"Dial" what back?

Their negativity or my positive approach to most all things.

It seems these posters revel in being defeated ....at the tables or in what their lives have been and are going to be.

Really sad.

tuttigym
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Yeah, that's what comes to mind when I think about you, you're incredible positive attitude about everything. LOL!
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April 7th, 2024 at 9:33:27 AM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

tuttigym
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Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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"Dial" what back?

Their negativity or my positive approach to most all things.

It seems these posters revel in being defeated ....at the tables or in what their lives have been and are going to be.

Really sad.

tuttigym
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The confrontation seems a bit much.
(Adversarial positivity? Is that even a thing?)

In fairness, EvenBob should dial back a bit, too.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 7th, 2024 at 9:56:39 AM permalink
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Yeah, that's what comes to mind when I think about you, you're incredible positive attitude about everything. LOL!
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It is nice that you are thinking about me. You should try that "positive attitude." It does wonders.

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April 7th, 2024 at 9:57:52 AM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

tuttigym
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Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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"Dial" what back?

Their negativity or my positive approach to most all things.

It seems these posters revel in being defeated ....at the tables or in what their lives have been and are going to be.

Really sad.

tuttigym
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The confrontation seems a bit much.
(Adversarial positivity? Is that even a thing?)

In fairness, EvenBob should dial back a bit, too.
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Love the fairness.

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April 7th, 2024 at 10:42:53 AM permalink
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I guess misery loves company. Does your life suck that much?

tuttigym
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(trimmed)

Hey man. This is starting to bum me out.
Any chance you can dial it back a bit?
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"Dial" what back?

Their negativity or my positive approach to most all things.

It seems these posters revel in being defeated ....at the tables or in what their lives have been and are going to be.

Really sad.

tuttigym
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The confrontation seems a bit much.
(Adversarial positivity? Is that even a thing?)

In fairness, EvenBob should dial back a bit, too.
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Love the fairness.

tuttigym
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(shrug) I saw you first!
I didn't notice EvenBob until later.

... but thanks.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 7th, 2024 at 11:02:37 AM permalink
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It is far more depressing to see someone just sitting around, waiting to die.
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That's what we're all doing, from the day we're born. Some of us just fill in the blank space in the middle differently. I don't think about it a lot, but I also don't want to waste my time on crap that I know going to be boring and disappointing. My wife is constantly saying she wants to travel which is fine, just don't expect me to go with you. I hate traveling, it's one hassle after another with very little reward. Mark Twain felt exactly the same way, he hated being away from home, he hated being away from his own bed. I know exactly how he felt.
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I would put the emphasis on "just".
If you're doing useful or interesting things to fill some of the day, that's not "just" waiting to die.
Learn a new song on the guitar. Build something in the wood shop. Something more than absorbing TV.

All of my wives and girlfriends have been horrible at traveling. Breakups after roadtrips are a recurring theme.
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I’d like to be able to travel cross country in a convertible. But I’d never do the normal things. I saw WATB on YT list the worst towns in Montana. One had this little casino. I want to go to it. I want to find a few Bar Rescue bars to go to. I want to see the greenhouse in the snow where the guy has citrus growing in Nebraska as a bonus just a bit from Autohenge. I want to see the largest ball of twine. I want to do plant tours when I can.

But I have no interest in something like Disney. I do not like travel norm as l people like.
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April 7th, 2024 at 11:07:30 AM permalink
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I’d like to be able to travel cross country in a convertible. But I’d never do the normal things.



When I was younger I pretty much circumnavigated the U.S. in my convertible. I drove from Las Vegas accross the whole south down to southern Florida. From Florida up to new York. From New York to Seattle and then back to Vegas. Stopped and saw friends and family along the way but never spent more than two nights in any city.

It was a fun trip as a young man but I wouldn't do it again. I hate driving more than three hours in my old age.
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April 7th, 2024 at 11:30:42 AM permalink
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I’d like to be able to travel cross country in a convertible. But I’d never do the normal things.



When I was younger I pretty much circumnavigated the U.S. in my convertible. I drove from Las Vegas accross the whole south down to southern Florida. From Florida up to new York. From New York to Seattle and then back to Vegas. Stopped and saw friends and family along the way but never spent more than two nights in any city.

It was a fun trip as a young man but I wouldn't do it again. I hate driving more than three hours in my old age.
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Lots of things are fun when you're young because you've never done anything and it's all new. I feel put upon if I have to drive 3 miles let alone 3 hours. If you think old age is in your fifties, you have a big surprise coming. A very big surprise.
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