9 shot dead Ohio
Quote: FleaswatterLOL
how about:
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
or
"The check is in the mail."
or
"Of course I'll still respect you in the morning."
Save your effort. You are dealing with a guy proud of BLM, one of the most racist and violent groups in the USA, then he claims to be the reasonable side.
Quote: FleaswatterLOL
how about:
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
or
"The check is in the mail."
or
"Of course I'll still respect you in the morning."
Take chic-a-fil
AZ crazily posts that the whole left hates chic-a-fil
yet the reality is I don't hate chic-a-fil
How reasonable are you when it comes to Trump, take AZ's side and say Trump is Rambo
Or take my reasonable side and agree Trump would act like any normal person during a shooting and run
Quote: terapinedTake chic-a-fil
AZ crazily posts that the whole left hates chic-a-fil
yet the reality is I don't hate chic-a-fil
I said "Liberals hate Chick-Fil-A." If you do not understand that is based on liberals demonstrating to keep them out of places and instead think it means someone took a survey of all liberals well I really am not here to teach critical thinking and reading skills.
Quote: DRichSome of us wish that he was there during the horrific incident.
Yeah, DON'T GO THERE!! Have you taken leave of your senses? Good grief.
Warning. This forum is not meant to host the slightest inference that any public figure or people be harmed. ZK got banned for it. How much more of an indication does anybody need?
Quote: beachbumbabsWarning. This forum is not meant to host the slightest inference that any public figure or people be harmed. ZK got banned for it. How much more of an indication does anybody need?
I understand this. It's a no-brainer.
But it's a strange world we're living in where it's okay for the POTUS to infer that American citizens that don't agree with him be physically harmed but random posters on forums could actually be banned for the same thing.
Looking forward to the return of normalcy and decency.
Quote: AZDuffmanI said "Liberals hate Chick-Fil-A." If you do not understand that is based on liberals demonstrating to keep them out of places and instead think it means someone took a survey of all liberals well I really am not here to teach critical thinking and reading skills.
Maybe writing skills should be taught. I'm an English writing major, and I come cheap.
"Liberals hate Chick-Fil-A" has no qualifying adjectives anywhere in the sentence. The literal meaning, therefore, is that if one is a liberal, one hates Chick-Fil-A. Clearly, that cannot be true. Not only terapined likes Chick-Fil-A, but so do I, and I am left of Marx. In fact, I filled out two surveys this week to acquire free Chick-Fil-A sandwiches. I will opt for the spicy.
Perhaps, "Some liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" Or maybe "A few liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" But those phrases would require some thoughtfulness and restraint, and perhaps that was not the writer's goal?
Again, I can be hired for a reasonable sum.
Quote: redietzMaybe writing skills should be taught. I'm an English writing major, and I come cheap.
"Liberals hate Chick-Fil-A" has no qualifying adjectives anywhere in the sentence. The literal meaning, therefore, is that if one is a liberal, one hates Chick-Fil-A. Clearly, that cannot be true. Not only terapined likes Chick-Fil-A, but so do I, and I am left of Marx. In fact, I filled out two surveys this week to acquire free Chick-Fil-A sandwiches. I will opt for the spicy.
Perhaps, "Some liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" Or maybe "A few liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" But those phrases would require some thoughtfulness and restraint, and perhaps that was not the writer's goal?
Again, I can be hired for a reasonable sum.
For your major, you do not have the critical thinking skills. In a political forum someone saying "liberals hate Chick-Fil-A" would be taken by any person with an ounce of common sense to mean how Chcik-Fil-A is a liberal target across the fruited plain. No normal person would think that writing in a political forum that the post is about how they feel about the taste of the food. Likewise, in a general discussion, no normal person thinks the writer took a survey or went thru the phone book to verify that not one liberal likes Chick-Fil-A.
Liberal pols have stated that they do not want Chick-Fil-A in their cities. Colleges have tried to ban them from campus. Gays wanted to go in and disgust customers so as to disrupt business. All of this has been in the news. So I take a reply of "That is impossible, I am a liberal and I like Chick-Fil-A" to mean one of two things:
1. The writer lives under a rock and is uninfromed or
2. The writer is trying to make a jerk out of themselves because they cannot attack the point on merit so they make intelligent discussion impossible.
Your suggested quotes might be fine for English class. This is a forum, not English class. If this is not making enough sense I would refer you to YouTube and episodes of "The Tom Leykis Show." Tom is an intelligent guy and does not put up with a listener using some minor exception to a general point or playing word games as you have above. He tells them to discuss the point being made.
Discuss the point being made.
Quote: SteverinosI understand this. It's a no-brainer.
But it's a strange world we're living in where it's okay for the POTUS to infer that American citizens that don't agree with him be physically harmed but random posters on forums could actually be banned for the same thing.
Looking forward to the return of normalcy and decency.
Its telling that Trump could never last on this forum due to reasonable rules that he would immediately violate
I follow him on twitter, he would never last here
Quote: SteverinosI understand this. It's a no-brainer.
But it's a strange world we're living in where it's okay for the POTUS to infer that American citizens that don't agree with him be physically harmed but random posters on forums could actually be banned for the same thing.
Looking forward to the return of normalcy and decency.
Trump is calling for physical harm to people? Please cite.
And do not waste our time with the "I could shoot someone......" thing as that was a joking manner to make a point that no intelligent person would take serious.
Quote: Obama“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
But, many anti Trumper's did take it seriously, they quote it all the time. Then again, what can you expect from the anti Trumper's?Quote: AZDuffmanTrump is calling for physical harm to people? Please cite.
And do not waste our time with the "I could shoot someone......" thing as that was a joking manner to make a point that no intelligent person would take serious.
Quote: AxelWolfBut, many anti Trumper's did take it seriously, they quote it all the time. Then again, what can you expect from the anti Trumper's?
Quote: AxelWolfBut, many anti Trumper's did take it seriously, they quote it all the time. Then again, what can you expect from the anti Trumper's?
I think the best quote ever on Trump is that his fans take him serious but not literal and the haters take him literal but not serious.
Could be tied in with liberals lack a sense of humor on most things.
Quote: AZDuffmanI think the best quote ever on Trump is that his fans take him serious but not literal and the haters take him literal but not serious.
.
It's asinine to set the bar so low for a POTUS.
Quote: redietzMaybe writing skills should be taught. I'm an English writing major, and I come cheap.
"Liberals hate Chick-Fil-A" has no qualifying adjectives anywhere in the sentence. The literal meaning, therefore, is that if one is a liberal, one hates Chick-Fil-A. Clearly, that cannot be true. Not only terapined likes Chick-Fil-A, but so do I, and I am left of Marx. In fact, I filled out two surveys this week to acquire free Chick-Fil-A sandwiches. I will opt for the spicy.
Perhaps, "Some liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" Or maybe "A few liberals hate Chick-Fil-A?" But those phrases would require some thoughtfulness and restraint, and perhaps that was not the writer's goal?
Again, I can be hired for a reasonable sum.
What a pretentious and linguistically snobish post to make without addressing the actual point made.
I remember your posts from the forum hosted by that guy with the 18 yo's story, same style there, nothing of substance to add, bunch of words saying nothing interesting or related to the topic effectively derailing the thread off topic.
Quote: AZDuffmanTrump is calling for physical harm to people? Please cite.
You live under a rock? Is that rock in your bubble?
Geez.
Quote: rawtuffWhat a pretentious and linguistically snobish post to make without addressing the actual point made.
I remember your posts from the forum hosted by that guy with the 18 yo's story, same style there, nothing of substance to add, bunch of words saying nothing interesting or related to the topic effectively derailing the thread off topic.
????
redietz made an excellent post
We have had many chic-a-fil discussions on this board and just about everybody on the left here does not hate chic-a-fil.
Yet AZ ignores that, sees on the internet some dumb stupid extremists on the left that want to ban chic-a-fil and comes on here and declares the entire Left is against chic-a-fil.
Its so illogical what AZ posts. He only listens to a few crazy extremists on the left then says the entire left is extremist
I see extremists on the right, but those are not views of conservatives on this board. Logic
I appreciate redietz logic
Quote: SteverinosYou live under a rock? Is that rock in your bubble?
Geez.
Cite.
Quote: rxwineIt's asinine to set the bar so low for a POTUS.
Nothing to with setting a bar. Has to do with reactions.
Quote: AZDuffmanCite.
See above. See below. See everywhere.
"Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore." That's the problem Trump. That's it. You nailed it. You are definitely the person that can heal and unite us.
Quote: terapined????
redietz made an excellent post
We have had many chic-a-fil discussions on this board and just about everybody on the left here does not hate chic-a-fil.
Yet AZ ignores that, sees on the internet some dumb stupid extremists on the left that want to ban chic-a-fil and comes on here and declares the entire Left is against chic-a-fil.
Its so illogical what AZ posts. He only listens to a few crazy extremists on the left then says the entire left is extremist
I see extremists on the right, but those are not views of conservatives on this board. Logic
I appreciate redietz logic
That is actually pretty common on both sides, people tend to lump sides to their most extreme. There are endless examples not just on this forum, but everywhere. People like to see extremism in views that contradict theirs, it both reinforces their view, and allows easy dismissal of ideas. Its much easier to say "He is a gun nut" "He is a racist" "He is a communist", etc.... than to actually talk about substance of specific ideas.
Quote: SteverinosSee above. See below. See everywhere.
"Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore." That's the problem Trump. That's it. You nailed it. You are definitely the person that can heal and unite us.
That is "calling for violence?" Maybe in snowflakeland it is, not in the real world.
See, here, throwing around the term "white supremacist" is something that incites violence. Both from "minorities" and from white folks tired of hearing that garbage from the left. Maybe you need to remember that the violence is mostly coming from the left. ANTIFA. BLM. People with MAGA hats minding their own business attacked. Lefty listening to Maddow decides to try kill multiple GOP members of congress. And now in Ohio. Plus we have some FBI guy claiming that the Texas shooter was incited by the offer of free health care for illegal aliens at the Democrat debate, which would not be a surprise.
Bo, you need to look at reality.
Quote: AZDuffmanThat is "calling for violence?" Maybe in snowflakeland it is, not in the real world.
See, here, throwing around the term "white supremacist" is something that incites violence. Both from "minorities" and from white folks tired of hearing that garbage from the left. Maybe you need to remember that the violence is mostly coming from the left. ANTIFA. BLM. People with MAGA hats minding their own business attacked. Lefty listening to Maddow decides to try kill multiple GOP members of congress. And now in Ohio. Plus we have some FBI guy claiming that the Texas shooter was incited by the offer of free health care for illegal aliens at the Democrat debate, which would not be a surprise.
Bo, you need to look at reality.
Cite.
Quote: SteverinosCite.
If I were you, I would block AZ
I read his post since you copied it
Typical AZ, according to him, its the left that is violent and not the right
What a fantasy. You cant argue with him because his views have been hardened by hate
Logic - There is violence on both sides. AZ will never get this logic due to hatred
Quote: terapinedIf I were you, I would block AZ
I read his post since you copied it
Typical AZ, according to him, its the left that is violent and not the right
What a fantasy. You cant argue with him because his views have been hardened by hate
Logic - There is violence on both sides.
I agree. The spin was pretty severe there.
Quote:It was aggressive language when then-candidate Barack Obama told a Philadelphia crowd, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.” Ever the politician, Obama had enough sense to add the cute football reference, giving him the wiggle room needed for a future cop-out.
It is aggressive language when, in reference to Tea Party voters, Teamsters president Jimmy Hoffa Jr. told a Detroit rally to “take these sons of bitches out”. Attending the rally was President Obama who, taking the podium shortly thereafter, passed on his chance for a Sister Souljah moment.
It is aggressive language when Joe Biden, speaking at the Moral Action Congress of the Poor People’s Campaign, said, "The fact of the matter is if we can't get a consensus, nothing happens except the abuse of power by the executive. There are certain things where it just takes a brass knuckle fight." He later said, "Let’s start a real physical revolution if you’re talking about it." In short, this is a former vice president and the current front-runner for the Democratic nomination encouraging civil war because of congressional deadlock.
It is aggressive language when Eric Holder appealed to violence, telling listeners that “when (Republicans) go low, we kick them". It is aggressive language when Hillary Clinton declared to CNN viewers that they “cannot be civil” with Republicans, or at any rate until Democrats win full control of Congress.
It is aggressive language when Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) told Mika Brzezinski that Democrats need to “fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box”, prioritizing SA-style street brawling above voting. It is aggressive language when congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), lectured a church audience that President Trump to be “eliminated,” when Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) implored Democrats to punch Trump in the face, and when Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA), encouraged rally goers in Los Angeles to physically harass Trump administration officials. It is aggressive language when Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) lamented that there are not yet uprisings across the country, and then hinted that she wished there were.
It is aggressive language when Michigan state representative Doug Geiss (D-Taylor), during a House debate on right-to-work legislation, threatened, “There will be blood. There will be repercussions,” if the legislation passed. It is aggressive language when State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D-MO) posted on Facebook her desire for Trump’s assassination, when state representative Brian Sims posted video online of pro-life teenage girls and offered money in exchange for their publicized identities, and when state representative Stephanie Kifowit (D-IL) called for the family of a Republican colleague to be lethally poisoned.
It is aggressive language when the New York Times ran an op-ed calling for the publication of identities and home addresses of Customs and Border Protection agents and pressing for their harassment. It is aggressive language when MSNBC’s Joy Reid suggested that, following the shooting of Republican congressman Steve Scalise by a Bernie Sanders supporter, that Scalise deserved it because of his views on gun rights and gay marriage. It is aggressive language when National Catholic Reporter journalist Michael Sean Winters clamored for Republicans to be guillotined “when the revolution comes,” when Vice commentator Kim Kelly encouraged the “milkshaking” of conservatives, and when Vox journalist Carlos Maza did the same.
It is aggressive language when Madonna threatened to blow up the White House, when Rob Reiner called for “all-out war” against the president and Fox News, when Morrissey said he would murder Trump “for the sake of humanity” if he could, and when Peter Fonda suggested that Barron Trump should be kidnapped and put in a cage with pedophiles and that Kristjen Nielson should be sexually assaulted. It is aggressive language when Bette Midler asked for Trump to be stabbed to death, when David Simon wrote that Trump opponents have no choice but to “pick up a brick”, and when Larry Charles encouraged leftists to arm themselves and wage war against “MAGA people”.
It is aggressive language when professor Lars Maischak tweeted that two Republicans should be executed for each deported illegal immigrant, when professor James Thomas advocated for physical harassment of Republican senators, and when professor Carol Christine Fair wrote that “entitled white men” deserve “miserable deaths” followed by postmortem castration.
Hmmm, makes you wonder.
The article provides links to all the "aggressive language" examples.
P.S. I quoted about half of the article.
Quote: FleaswatterHmmm, makes you wonder.
The article provides links to all the "aggressive language" examples.
P.S. I quoted about half of the article.
Yawn, your point is worthless because I know there is a problem with some on the left.
If somebody on the left proposes violence, I am against that person.
My point
Are you with AZ and his fantasy that ALL the violence and hate is from the left
Or
Do you agree with reasonable and logical terapined that there his hate and violence on both sides
Don't respond. I know your dislike of me is so strong, you wont be able to agree with me, a reasonable person.
Or surprise me and agree with AZ LOL
By the way, you shouldn't copy and paste like that. A small sample and a link is preferred.
Quote: Fleaswatter
Hmmm, makes you wonder.
The article provides links to all the "aggressive language" examples.
P.S. I quoted about half of the article.
Except ONE name comes up many times on the Republican side. Trump. Who is also holding the highest office. Who has the loudest bully pulpit. I don't know when the video was made that was posted with Trump remarks a page back, but I counted 9 statements for him.
to be unaware of things that most people know about.Quote: AZDuffmanCite.
Please, redeitz, I don’t need you to respond to this and say something like, “Can you give the definition of terrible? It’s a subjective term and not objective. In literature....” Nobody cares.
Next time someone writes “Republicans are against gay marriage, anti abortion, etc.” are you gonna come along and be all like, “Well hold on there! I’m a writer n stuff. And I know a republican and he is not against gay marriage. Checkmate!!!”
Quote: SteverinosCite.
Take it for what it is worth, but it is easy to see people tired of Democrats caring more about illegal aliens than Americans.
Quote: AZDuffmanTrump is calling for physical harm to people? Please cite.
And do not waste our time with the "I could shoot someone......" thing as that was a joking manner to make a point that no intelligent person would take serious.Quote: Obama“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
For someone who claims to be using language others should understand implicitly DOESN'T mean what you actually wrote, you sure do have a bad memory when it comes to Trump. Or are we supposed to know that you know very well at least a few of the more famous examples, but you're just trolling us on this for your own amusement?
Three incidences that I can recall,.was Trump at some police thing, think he was in Maryland in 2017, and he told them they didn't have to be nearly so careful putting people in the vehicle during an arrest, making gestures and whatever he said indicate they should bang the arrestee's head on the door sill more.
Then there were numerous times during the campaign when he made remarks favoring the crowd beating up on protesters during rallies, including paying their legal bills if they got arrested for it.
Or as recently as this May when he was attacking immigrants and someone yelled "shoot them" and he laughed and encouraged it?
Quote: terapinedIf I were you, I would block AZ
I read his post since you copied it
Typical AZ, according to him, its the left that is violent and not the right
What a fantasy. You cant argue with him because his views have been hardened by hate
Logic - There is violence on both sides. AZ will never get this logic due to hatred
The only reason to answer back to AZD rather than block him, is that ignoring him allows him to spew this kind of nonsense unchallenged by facts or logic. It's not about him - it's about other members and lurkers hearing his bubble-speak without refutation if we don't.
Nobody has ever (there's an absolute that's correct!) changed AZD's mind about anything. You know that, so you just blocked him and moved on. I used to move on also, usually with an eyeroll or a head shake. Can't afford that any more.
There has been entirely too much of this silent tolerance of "alternative facts" and skewing the truth, projection and what-about-ism, not to mention outright lies, spread by him and his media heroes. We need to be active voices in opposition to this toxic undercurrent that is damaging this country in all directions.
Eye rolls, head shaking, blocking them, changing the channel, has only allowed this to continue. No more excuses for this stuff in the name of free speech. Exercise your own right to speak in calling it out.
Quote: beachbumbabsThree incidences that I can recall,.was Trump at some police thing, think he was in Maryland in 2017, and he told them they didn't have to be nearly so careful putting people in the vehicle during an arrest, making gestures and whatever he said indicate they should bang the arrestee's head on the door sill more.
He was talking about those violent POS from MS-13 and not some "every day arrest" scenario. I think Trump's too soft on the whole gang thing...I say just shove 'em in, if their head gets knocked....who seriously cares?
Quote: beachbumbabsOr as recently as this May when he was attacking immigrants and someone yelled "shoot them" and he laughed and encouraged it?
ILLEGAL immigrants*
"And don't forget, we don't let them [border agents] and we can't let them use weapons. We can't. Other countries do. We can't. I would never do that. But how do you stop these people?"
:eye_roll_emoji:
Quote: RSLol. Redeitz’s post was terrible.
Please, redeitz, I don’t need you to respond to this and say something like, “Can you give the definition of terrible? It’s a subjective term and not objective. In literature....” Nobody cares.
Next time someone writes “Republicans are against gay marriage, anti abortion, etc.” are you gonna come along and be all like, “Well hold on there! I’m a writer n stuff. And I know a republican and he is not against gay marriage. Checkmate!!!”MuH rUsSiA!!
LOL yourself. It was also facetious, genius. It was a direct response to the hubris shown by AZ when he decided that terapined lacked "critical thinking" and "reading" skills. I guess some folks missed that part.
So I opted, instead of something like the direct subjective attack AZ made on terapined, for an unassailable critique of what AZ said, mirroring his hubris with some pseudo-hubris regarding his writing.
I know -- too gentle, too high brow, too sarcastic (and Sheldon, like right wing apologists, doesn't get sarcasm).
P.S. I'd write "most right wing apologists," but then I wouldn't be mirroring the apologists. I know again -- too gentle, too high brow, too sarcastic.
Quote: beachbumbabs
(snipped as other remarks answered upthread)
Then there were numerous times during the campaign when he made remarks favoring the crowd beating up on protesters during rallies, including paying their legal bills if they got arrested for it.
Take a look at the "calling for violence video" posted above. He had to have it dragged out of him about paying legal bills.
As to the protestor taking a punch to the mouth, well, if he had stayed off the stage he would not have taken the punch. From throwing pies at Ann Coulter to throwing glitter on a number of conservative speakers to interrupting Trump, liberals try disruption all too often. They do not get called out on it or punished, so more happens. The guy wanted trouble, he got what he looked for. Ever notice you do not see this kind of disruption when a liberal speaks.
But I know I will not change your mind as I have never seen you change it. Just putting balance out for the lurkers.
Quote: AZDuffmanJust putting balance out for the lurkers.
Do people honestly think there are lurkers in the politics threads who are taking anything written here seriously?
Hypothetical Lurker: "That man with the avatar of the confederate flag with the white nationalist Gadsden rattlesnake on top of it makes some good points. I didn't like Donald Trump before, but now I do!"
Quote: AxelWolfI absolutely believe women should have the right to choose as long as they're not using it as a form of birth control. I see absolutely nothing wrong with gay people getting married.
Join me on the Libertarian side of the force Axelwolf, the personal freedom is strong in you.
Quote: AxelWolfI see absolutely nothing wrong with gay people getting married.
Cool
but
There are elected republicans such as Candice Keller whose hatred for gays is so strong, she actually blamed the recent shootings on gay marriage.
Only people on the right hold this view. Nobody on the left holds this view
https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/ohio-lawmaker-candice-keller-blames-gay-marriage-drag-queen-advocates-for-dayton-shooting/
Quote: RSHe was talking about those violent POS from MS-13 and not some "every day arrest" scenario. I think Trump's too soft on the whole gang thing...I say just shove 'em in, if their head gets knocked....who seriously cares?
ILLEGAL immigrants*
"And don't forget, we don't let them [border agents] and we can't let them use weapons. We can't. Other countries do. We can't. I would never do that. But how do you stop these people?"
:eye_roll_emoji:
So shooting illegals is okay with you?
Quote: billryanQuote: RSHe was talking about those violent POS from MS-13 and not some "every day arrest" scenario. I think Trump's too soft on the whole gang thing...I say just shove 'em in, if their head gets knocked....who seriously cares?
ILLEGAL immigrants*
"And don't forget, we don't let them [border agents] and we can't let them use weapons. We can't. Other countries do. We can't. I would never do that. But how do you stop these people?"
:eye_roll_emoji:
So shooting illegals is okay with you?
As long as nobody goes over their bag limit.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanQuote: RSHe was talking about those violent POS from MS-13 and not some "every day arrest" scenario. I think Trump's too soft on the whole gang thing...I say just shove 'em in, if their head gets knocked....who seriously cares?
ILLEGAL immigrants*
"And don't forget, we don't let them [border agents] and we can't let them use weapons. We can't. Other countries do. We can't. I would never do that. But how do you stop these people?"
:eye_roll_emoji:
So shooting illegals is okay with you?
As long as nobody goes over their bag limit.
Very nice.
Quote: Mission146I would highly recommend editing your post to indicate that you’re joking.
Done as your's is an opinion that has earned respect.
Quote: AZDuffmanDone as your's is an opinion that has earned respect.
Nothing like having courage in your convictions, eh?
Quote: billryanNothing like having courage in your convictions, eh?
Just know that there are too many liberals on here with no sense of humor.
Quote: AZDuffmanJust know that there are too many liberals on here with no sense of humor.
31 dead people are not laughing at your sick nastiness. Last warning for ANYBODY on this topic. STOP posting about shooting people! Now! You will be removed without recourse.
And no need to whine: call me Ms. DILLIGAF because that's what I think about your opinion of me.
Quote: beachbumbabs31 dead people are not laughing at your sick nastiness. Last warning for ANYBODY on this topic. STOP posting about shooting people! Now! You will be removed without recourse.
And no need to whine: call me Ms. DILLIGAF because that's what I think about your opinion of me.
Perhaps the threads should be closed?
Quote: beachbumbabsSTOP posting about shooting people! Now! You will be removed without recourse.
Unless of course you’re just a disgruntled card counter trying to vent.
