Who do you think will be the first female President?
I remember someone said something like ,"For the 2016 election, I felt both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were ridiculous jokes. I voted for Jill Stein."
There were rumors of Oprah Winfrey becoming the next President. Oprah is a successful, wise, well loved Philanthropist billionaire so she does stand a chance but with that criteria Ellen DeGeneres has a chance to become the next President.
IMHO, the first female President Candidate should have good morals, be uncorrupt and focus on the issues that unnerve USA citizens. And as a cherry on top, not bash her opponent in the campaign. A lot of people have said they actually don't like political mudslinging in campaigns and actually would love to see the Candidates just tackle tough issues.
She went up against a very powerful political machine to defeat a DA that had been in office since Nixon. If and when, or when and if, the Democrats take the House, I think she will get a lot of airtime. I met her when I attended an early campaign fund raiser. She was not very warm but very calculating. She actually convinced much of the room that she, a newcomer to local politics, could defeat a guy who was first elected in 1974 but who had run unopposed twice. Been watching her since.
A problem might be NY has several upcoming Democrats and she is junior to them.
2028 might be early for her but if no woman is elected before 2032, it wouldn't shock me if it were she.
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This has got to be a sock puppet
WON is that you?
Filthy small
Will burn you
Just when you get rid of them they seem to reinfect
A bad case of Wonorrhea
Quote: darkozSock puppets are like STD's
Filthy small
Will burn you
Just when you get rid of them they seem to reinfect
They also sing songs that never end.
Quote: AxelWolfobviously, Roseanne Barr will be president.
LMAO! :D
Quote: AxelWolfobviously, Roseanne Barr will be president.
LMAO! :D
It's like people think we live under a dictatorship so their whole focus is on the 'ruler' they elect as president as if he is the one that will fix this country by himself and do as he wants whenever he wants, it's so sickening. Now dont get me wrong, the federal govt and president has its purpose, but its mostly military and international relations, and while that is important, your focus should not be on that. Not to mention people are worrying about the presidential election NOT even for those reasons, they ACTUALLY think the president has this so called unlimited power over all of us.
Im just sick of it. You see it all the time whether it's with professional athletes talking about the president, the media, tv news anchors, ETC. This is why everyone is so brainwashed with this garbage since that is where the majority of our population gets its information.
Start paying attention and worrying about who you're electing in your RESPECTIVE STATES. That's where real CHANGE begins. And guess what? These same state elected representatives will be the ones representing you in Congress, you know, the same Congress that PASSES the LAWS.
Our educational system has failed us. Blame it on the TV media once again, but also on the citizens themselves. There has to be some accountability to educate yourself and stop only worrying about celebrity gossip, sports, etc.
Eh who am i kidding, im wasting energy once again explaining this. Good luck with your new fake dictator.
Quote: ZenKinGSighh. How about we focus on who we're electing in our respective states. You know, the election that actually MATTERS. If you understood anything about law in this country, how its set up, who passes the laws, and most importamtly our Constitution and the restrictions on the federal govt over the citizens of this country, you would quickly realize the federal election will affect maybe 5% of your life. The federal govt has few and very limited and enumerated powers over you. Our founding fathers did this not by coincidence, but understanding the danger of having a corrupt and overpowered govt as history has shown us will happen when there is lopsided power in a central govt.
It's like people think we live under a dictatorship so their whole focus is on the 'ruler' they elect as president as if he is the one that will fix this country by himself and do as he wants whenever he wants, it's so sickening. Now dont get me wrong, the federal govt and president has its purpose, but its mostly military and international relations, and while that is important, your focus should not be on that. Not to mention people are worrying about the presidential election NOT even for those reasons, they ACTUALLY think the president has this so called unlimited power over all of us.
Im just sick of it. You see it all the time whether it's with professional athletes talking about the president, the media, tv news anchors, ETC. This is why everyone is so brainwashed with this garbage since that is where the majority of our population gets its information.
Start paying attention and worrying about who you're electing in your RESPECTIVE STATES. That's where real CHANGE begins. And guess what? These same state elected representatives will be the ones representing you in Congress, you know, the same Congress that PASSES the LAWS.
Our educational system has failed us. Blame it on the TV media once again, but also on the citizens themselves. There has to be some accountability to educate yourself and stop only worrying about celebrity gossip, sports, etc.
Eh who am i kidding, im wasting energy once again explaining this. Good luck with your new fake dictator.
Are you registered to vote in Nevada?
Quote: FleaStiffFemale President? Let me know when someone is making book on it.
That kinda happened.....the book is called What Happened, by Hillary Clinton. AFAIK, it’s basically a book about her failures during the campaign and in life in general.
I could see a female being president in the sorta near future, although I suspect there’ll be many people voting for the woman simply because it’d be some sort of a novelty to have a woman president (kinda like Barry back in ‘08).
Quote: RSThat kinda happened.....the book is called What Happened, by Hillary Clinton. AFAIK, it’s basically a book about her failures during the campaign and in life in general.
I thought it was about her blaming everything and everyone but herself for her loss?
It will probably be someone we do not know yet. Michelle Obama? Really, the idea is a total joke and the kind of thing they do in joke of countries like Argentina. Even Hillary knew she had to do more than just be Bill's wife. She didn't do much more, but she at the least tried to fabricate a real resume. Oprah? Just the lefties grasping at straws to check minority boxes on the job application.
It will almost have to be someone who was a governor first. She can't pull a Hillary and yell, "YOU WOMEN HAVE TO VOTE FOR ME, I'M A WOMAN!" She cannot be hideous looking, and before anyone complains there, male POTUS candidates can't be, either. McCain to name one had that going against him.
Finally, she has to be mainstream.
Quote: ZenKinGSighh. How about we focus on who we're electing in our respective states. You know, the election that actually MATTERS. If you understood anything about law in this country, how its set up, who passes the laws, and most importamtly our Constitution and the restrictions on the federal govt over the citizens of this country, you would quickly realize the federal election will affect maybe 5% of your life. The federal govt has few and very limited and enumerated powers over you. Our founding fathers did this not by coincidence, but understanding the danger of having a corrupt and overpowered govt as history has shown us will happen when there is lopsided power in a central govt.
It's like people think we live under a dictatorship so their whole focus is on the 'ruler' they elect as president as if he is the one that will fix this country by himself and do as he wants whenever he wants, it's so sickening. Now dont get me wrong, the federal govt and president has its purpose, but its mostly military and international relations, and while that is important, your focus should not be on that. Not to mention people are worrying about the presidential election NOT even for those reasons, they ACTUALLY think the president has this so called unlimited power over all of us.
Im just sick of it. You see it all the time whether it's with professional athletes talking about the president, the media, tv news anchors, ETC. This is why everyone is so brainwashed with this garbage since that is where the majority of our population gets its information.
Start paying attention and worrying about who you're electing in your RESPECTIVE STATES. That's where real CHANGE begins. And guess what? These same state elected representatives will be the ones representing you in Congress, you know, the same Congress that PASSES the LAWS.
Our educational system has failed us. Blame it on the TV media once again, but also on the citizens themselves. There has to be some accountability to educate yourself and stop only worrying about celebrity gossip, sports, etc.
Eh who am i kidding, im wasting energy once again explaining this. Good luck with your new fake dictator.
One thing we actually agree on.
No, no, no. I mean booking bets. I didn't make Resident Expert on NCAA brackets, I didn't make Resident Expert on Kidney Stones, maybe I can make Resident Expert on female presidents but until there is an actual "line" on it at a Vegas sportsbook, I'm not interested.Quote: RSThat kinda happened.....the book is called What Happened,
Quote: ZenKinGSigh.
Well ZK, I am going to a fundraiser for my local State Assemblyman tomorrow night. My State Senator's golf outing in August. I met with both of them a few weeks ago. Want to join me?
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Start paying attention and worrying about who you're electing in your RESPECTIVE STATES. That's where real CHANGE begins. And guess what? These same state elected representatives will be the ones representing you in Congress, you know, the same Congress that PASSES the LAWS....
Eh who am i kidding, im wasting energy once again explaining this. Good luck with your new fake dictator.
Oh, get off your high horse, ZK. Literally nobody here disagrees with you about this. You're acting like you've got it all "figured out," and like you're trying to educate us, when everybody knows local elections are the most important. You wasting energy because you're preaching to the choir.
Quote: ZenKinGSighh. How about we focus on who we're electing in our respective states.
Warning given for thread hijacking.
Quote: TigerWuIt's not going to be anybody mainstream at the moment. Some mostly unknown state legislator who is still slowly working her way up the food chain, or possibly even someone who's not a politician yet at all. Unfortunately for the far right, it won't be Hillary.
Oh, get off your high horse, ZK. Literally nobody here disagrees with you about this. You're acting like you've got it all "figured out," and like you're trying to educate us, when everybody knows local elections are the most important. You wasting energy because you're preaching to the choir.
Give a moment or two to the angry young man
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand
He's been stabbed in the back, he's been misunderstood
It's a comfort to know his intentions are good
And he sits in a room with a lock on the door
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man
woman president. It won't be Oprah,
Pocahontas, Hillary, or (shudder)
Michelle Obama. It might not even
be in the lifetime of any person here.
She'll have one of two things going
for her. She'll be extremely connected
politically, like the men have to be.
Or she'll be an outlier like Trump, who
has huge charisma and persuasion skills.
Either of these things is unlikely in a
woman.
And she'll have to be attractive, that's a
given. I just don't see it happening anytime
soon.
A war hero
Quote: EvenBobBetter to ask who won't be the first
woman president. It won't be Oprah,
Pocahontas, Hillary, or (shudder)
Michelle Obama. It might not even
be in the lifetime of any person here.
She'll have one of two things going
for her. She'll be extremely connected
politically, like the men have to be.
Or she'll be an outlier like Trump, who
has huge charisma and persuasion skills.
Either of these things is unlikely in a
woman.
And she'll have to be attractive, that's a
given. I just don't see it happening anytime
soon.
Sonia Sotomayor has a good chance of becoming the next President with your criteria. :)
Quote: NathanSonia Sotomayor has a good chance of becoming the next President with your criteria. :)
You mean a zero chance. If you find
her attractive, your standards are
not those of the average man..
Quote: WizardWarning given for thread hijacking.
I dont want to be argumentative but that didnt seem like thread hijacking to me
He made a political suggestion that correlates to the subject. Basically giving his thoughts on why we should be less fixated on who the next female president is
More importantly it didn't derail the conversation more than a few posts if at all
Doc inadvertently turned spring fling into 5 pages of kidney stones. Thats hijacking even if unintentional
What I can't see is Nikki Haley winning the GOP Primary.
Quote: rdw4potusIf 2020 is Warren V Trump, Warren probably gets it done.
She'll never run because one, she'll be
71 in 2020. And two, she'll never live
down lying about her Native American
heritage to get a job at Harvard. And
in case you haven't noticed, she's even
less likeable than Hillary.
Quote: EvenBobShe'll never run because one, she'll be
71 in 2020. And two, she'll never live
down lying about her Native American
heritage to get a job at Harvard. And
in case you haven't noticed, she's even
less likeable than Hillary.
To you Every democrat will be even less likable than Hillary once you realise Hillary isnt running
Quote: darkozTo you Every democrat will be even less likable than Hillary once you realise Hillary isnt running
When She stops running we'll all know.
That hasn't happened yet, she keeps
herself in the news every day. This is
news She doesn't like today:
Clinton Campaign Funneled $150,000 To Hillary Clinton’s Personal Company
Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign has transferred nearly $150,000 of leftover campaign funds to a company she solely owns in the months following her election defeat, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
Quote: EvenBobWhen She stops running we'll all know.
That hasn't happened yet, she keeps
herself in the news every day. This is
news She doesn't like today:
Clinton Campaign Funneled $150,000 To Hillary Clinton’s Personal Company
Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign has transferred nearly $150,000 of leftover campaign funds to a company she solely owns in the months following her election defeat, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
How can it be funneled if she reported it in her FEC filings?
Has the FEC said this was criminal or are you just conflating nothingburgers like usual?
Warren and Sanders both had some good things to say about the difficulties of working class single people. But they both surrendered any momentum they had to Clinton. That right there X'd them from any further consideration.Quote: EvenBobShe'll never run because one, she'll be
71 in 2020. And two, she'll never live
down lying about her Native American
heritage to get a job at Harvard. And
in case you haven't noticed, she's even
less likeable than Hillary.
Then Warren supported the UN agenda 21 and is against the 2nd. And, they are both just to old. Them running at all is dividing their party.
That and claiming native heritage, Warren is done. Besides that, there are much better considerations than she.
https://gabbard.house.gov/aboutQuote: terapinedTammy Duckworth
A war hero
Quote: EvenBobYou mean a zero chance. If you find
her attractive, your standards are
not those of the average man..
Average man. *Laughs amused.* LMAO! :D
It was a Neuvo Rican wedding and MS. Justice spent a lot of time enjoying the meringue and salsa music. Even saw her dance a bacchata. Amazing energy for someone her age.
Quote: petroglyphhttps://gabbard.house.gov/about
I read about Tulsi Gabbard a few months ago. She certainly is building the ideal resume (elected to local office very young, veteran etc) and she is very beautiful. I also like that she’s not afraid to go against the party’s stance on issues. But I haven’t heard about her actually getting anything done yet.
My money is on Nikki Haley. I’m not sure why she gave up a governorship to be UN ambassador when that is not typically a position that leads to much else. But I like how tough she’s been and how she’s not afraid to stand alone. People like that. What do Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris stand for? The opposite of everything Trump does. To the person who said the Republican party is not ready for her - get real. She won two state wide elections IN SOUTH CAROLINA. Quite frankly I wouldn’t mind seeing Trump dropping Pence for Haley on the 2020 ticket.
"Money is considered to be converted to personal use if it’s used to pay for any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of his or her election campaign or duties as a federal officeholder. Certain types of payments are always considered to be a conversion of funds" campaign insiderQuote: darkozHow can it be funneled if she reported it in her FEC filings?
Quote: SanchoPanza"Money is considered to be converted to personal use if it’s used to pay for any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of his or her election campaign or duties as a federal officeholder. Certain types of payments are always considered to be a conversion of funds" campaign insider
Once again:
She reported it converted in her FEC filing
How is that doing something secretive or funneling?
Quote: EvenBobBetter to ask who won't be the first
woman president. It won't be Oprah,
Pocahontas, Hillary, or (shudder)
Michelle Obama. It might not even
be in the lifetime of any person here.
And she'll have to be attractive, that's a
given. I just don't see it happening anytime
soon.
Michael Wolff states in his book Fire and Fury that Trump is clearly grooming Ivanka to be the first female President.
Quote: zippyboyQuote: EvenBobBetter to ask who won't be the first
woman president. It won't be Oprah,
Pocahontas, Hillary, or (shudder)
Michelle Obama. It might not even
be in the lifetime of any person here.
And she'll have to be attractive, that's a
given. I just don't see it happening anytime
soon.
Michael Wolff states in his book Fire and Fury that Trump is clearly grooming Ivanka to be the first female President.
You know, the thought of Ivanka being the first female President didn't even cross my mind. But I highly doubt that Ivanka would make a good President. But if she does she'd make huge waves as first female President, first First Daughter to become President, and she is like 36, so youngest President. She'd hit a triple run! But if she became the first female President, she'd get a lot of disparaging jeers saying stuff like Her Daddy bought the election for her!" Ivanka comes off as a bit of a party girl and not a serious Presidential Candidate.
Maybe so she can put "global experience" on her resume? She hasn't made friends while at the UN. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nikki-haley-donald-trump-united-nations-un-lebanon-hezbollah-islamist-fighters-war-a7946226.html If all else fails, follow the money. Could be she wants to be, at the BIS.Quote: SandybestdogMy money is on Nikki Haley. I’m not sure why she gave up a governorship to be UN ambassador when that is not typically a position that leads to much else.
How about if DJT drops Pence as VP and runs with Ivanka, he wins,,,and then resigns?Quote:But I like how tough she’s been and how she’s not afraid to stand alone. People like that. What do Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris stand for? The opposite of everything Trump does. To the person who said the Republican party is not ready for her - get real. She won two state wide elections IN SOUTH CAROLINA. Quite frankly I wouldn’t mind seeing Trump dropping Pence for Haley on the 2020 ticket.
Quote: EvenBobYou mean a zero chance. If you find
her attractive, your standards are
not those of the average man..
She’s got nice teeth, at least (that’s not like a fetish of mine or nothing, just saying what I see). Although they actually look too good. To me, they look very fake, though - nothing wrong with that either. I’m not looking up other pics but from that one, they don’t look real to me.
anyone wanna offer better?
Quote: djatcI saw Hilary Clinton at +6600 and thought it was worth a few bucks
anyone wanna offer better?
To become president?
Damn, that might not be an awful bet. I mean, it is a bad bet, but may be a great hedge. How many thousands of batcoins can I wager on this game of chance?
Quote: Nathan
You know, the thought of Ivanka being the first female President didn't even cross my mind. But I highly doubt that Ivanka would make a good President. But if she does she'd make huge waves as first female President, first First Daughter to become President, and she is like 36, so youngest President. She'd hit a triple run! But if she became the first female President, she'd get a lot of disparaging jeers saying stuff like Her Daddy bought the election for her!" Ivanka comes off as a bit of a party girl and not a serious Presidential Candidate.
I doubt she would run right away and surely not as her first office. Party girl? Hardly! She comes off as very serious and qualified. If she has ambitions I'd look for her to run for something after Donald leaves office in 2025. She will not have a Senatorship handed to her like Hillary did. Anything in NY is unlikely. But she will need about 10 years of other work to be legit.
Or she remains smart and goes back to working in the Trump organization where she makes some real and legit money.
Quote: AZDuffmanI doubt she would run right away and surely not as her first office. Party girl? Hardly! She comes off as very serious and qualified. If she has ambitions I'd look for her to run for something after Donald leaves office in 2025. She will not have a Senatorship handed to her like Hillary did. Anything in NY is unlikely. But she will need about 10 years of other work to be legit.
Or she remains smart and goes back to working in the Trump organization where she makes some real and legit money.
Yeesh
And here we go with the hypocrisy again
Hillarys qualifications for being a good presidential candidate - wife of previous president - a negative for AZ
Ivankas qualification for being a good presidential candidate - daughter of previous president - a positive for AZ
Imho being BORN into jt is even less qualification than marrying your way into it. At least the latter displays ambition instead of "hell yeah I won the coin flip of heredity"
