Question for the AP crew (roulette)

I assume most of us here are adults, lets check the 'down with Ken' comments at the door (or dont, I dont care, bring it on).
Its a simple question, dont panic, its mainly for the roulette players but I guess anyone can answer. Give me an estimate, how many days (or weeks, whatever) you put into studying/testing/playing roulette methods. If its NO time invested, thats fine. Lets try and avoid the BS answer....."I played methods for years until I saw the light". (I'm only curious about this guys/gals)

Ken

I don't play roulette unless it's for quarters at El Cortez.

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I don't play roulette unless it's for quarters at El Cortez.

Thank you. Its a good, clean, polite answer.

Ken

I am far from an AP, but i do like to play. Usually at a .50or1.00 table, and with what i have come to play is a way that makes a small $40-50 buy in last a long time and maybe win some. That said, I don't think that I have ever won more than 200 from the game at any point(yea, low-rollers)
and a few times i have lost the buy in, oh well.

What I came up with was at like 3am in reno a few years ago. I was staying at the sands in a very cheap $30 room, and i had gone down to play because i couldn't sleep. They had a .25 game going and i thought that was great so i bought in and just played around with the game until i got the hang of it. That's how i came up with my roulette playing, and it really has no rhyme or reason but it is fun.

Seems like you may be asking"how long did it take to develop a good playing strategy"???
I kinda think it may be like sports where some people have to constantly practice skills to avoid losing them, and other people just have a natural talent.

just my .02

"Seems like you may be asking "how long did it take to develop a good playing strategy"? >>> Well, not really. Its mainly for the guys that dont play but tried playing/testing at some point. Just curious how long they did so before GIVING UP?

Ken

Even with your clarification, I'm not really sure what you're asking.

I've been told of Roulette systems / strategies and then try them on my next visit. So I guess the amount of time I've spend studying / investigating them could be measured in hours, and I would only need a few fingers on one hand to count the total hours for all the different Roulette strategies I've tried.

Does that answer the question?

The answer is 0, Ken. Don't waste your time.
There were many people in the past who wasted their whole lives on trying to build a perpetual motion machine. Were they wiser than those who were satisfied with the theoretical impossibility and invested their time into something more fruitful or were they just crazy weirdos?

When I was much younger a made a few trips to the casino to try and 'beat' roulette. That didn't last long, maybe <10 hours total. Now I am AP, focused on BJ, Spanish, and the occasional angle.

Also 0. And I'm still unsure why Ken thinks that there are roulette advantage players on this board.

When I was much younger, I reasoned that a given croupier would have a consistently physical release and therefore would lead to a reasonably consistent traverse angle -- the angle on the wheel between the ball's release point and the ball's landing point (regardless of the underlying numbers on the wheel at the time). So I stood by a roulette wheel for an hour and determined that this was a very wrong conclusion -- the traverse angle was all over the place. I learned later that dealers are trained to vary their release speeds, and therefore the traverse angle is unpredictable from just the release point. You'd also need to examine the ball speed and several other factors, all of which would require computational abilities beyond the ability of a human mind. It's definitely a solvable problem (c.f. The Newtonian Casino) but not without a computer which would make it illegal.

I don't believe I've made more than a dozen roulette bets since then. But my answer to the actual question is "less than one day".