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Is Wiz Renaissance Gambler?
| January 23rd, 2012 at 1:19:16 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6400 | I had no idea the Wiz won the $50,000 craps prize at the Venetian in 2008. Then last year he won the big BJ tournament. Is he the renaissance gambler of Vegas? A renaissance man is somebody who's an expert in several areas. Has anybody else won both these contests before? One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 4:03:21 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6400 | "It took a while to count everybody's chips, but I could see I had the most, by about $3,000. In the end I built my $10,000 in tournament chips to over $42,000. They announced all the winners, poured champagne, and took a lot of pictures. I felt like Charlie Brown would have if he had ever kicked the football. The thrill of victory was sweeter than the actual money." I have to ask, were you later backroomed for any dice sliding? This is the Venetian, where they backroomed a high roller for not tipping security in one of their clubs. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 6:05:50 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6776 | I used to play in a lot of tournaments, and that Venetian one you refer to is the only one that I won. Nope, I didn't dice slide. Speaking of tipping, I offered my host a $500 tip afterward -- and he refused it. You don't hear of a $500 tip being refused in Vegas every day. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 6:15:24 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6400 | I can't imagine playing in a tournament, the pressure would be too great. And then to win, I imagine your head wanted to explode. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 6:56:14 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6776 |
It was tough. That was only my second craps tournament, and the first didn't go well. When I made it to the final table I had a lot of coaching by tournament experts beforehand. Still, craps tournament strategy is very complicated, and I wasn't sure exactly what the right move was. After the fact a much better tournament player gave a roll by roll analysis of it -- pointing out my many errors. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 7:12:40 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6400 | Its a real accomplishement, and I'm not saying it because its your forum. You're not by any means a pro craps player, yet you beat people who are probably better than you. I wonder if some players think you had an advantage because you're the big cheese gambling math expert. You know how superstitious craps players are. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 7:53:27 PM permalink | |
| MrV Member since: Feb 13, 2010 Threads: 58 Posts: 804 |
Now hold on there just a minute. "Better than you?" Craps is actually a simple game to play. I cannot for the life of me see how someone could be "better" at it than another, provided they both understand the rules and play it smart. Lucky, yes; better, no. |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 8:12:08 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6400 |
The Wiz himself said a 'much better player' pointed out all the mistakes he made afterwards. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 8:34:54 PM permalink | |
| MathExtremist Member since: Aug 31, 2010 Threads: 46 Posts: 2518 |
Better at tournament strategy, not better at craps. Tournament strategy is another game entirely. The underlying game (craps) may as well be tiddlywinks. Actually, that's a bad example because you probably can be better at tiddlywinks than someone else, while you can't make a better pass bet than someone else. Point is, knowing how much to bet, where, and when during a tournament does indeed have a meaningful impact on your expected finish. "In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563 |
| January 23rd, 2012 at 8:36:31 PM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5714 | What's the house edge on tiddlywinks? Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood? |
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