Tangledweb
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January 22nd, 2012 at 10:55:47 PM permalink
Do any casinos allow you to play more than one hand at a time on their Three Card Poker tables? If they do, why? Surely it would be a risk for the house as a player has an advantage by seeing more cards.
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January 23rd, 2012 at 8:08:23 AM permalink
Quote: Tangledweb

Do any casinos allow you to play more than one hand at a time on their Three Card Poker tables? If they do, why? Surely it would be a risk for the house as a player has an advantage by seeing more cards.



I've seen a few that do. Usually it works one of three ways:

1. You play only the pair plus and progressive bonus on the add'l hands. I've actually done this a few times at Canterbury Park in MN. When the progressive is >$13k or so, it's net-positive for the player (on a 1/4/5/30/40/50 PP table). They let you do it because the PP is negative for the player and settles with the house, while the progressive is positive for the player and settles against a player-funded promotional pool.

2. You play each hand in sequence, usually with a limit of 2 or 3 hands and a higher required bet for the additional hands. I haven't played 3CP at Horseshoe Southern Indiana in a couple years, but this used to be their method: one additional hand, at double the bet of the first hand. I'm not able to do the math, but I assume that the additional info from seeing 3 extra cards isn't enough to give the player an advantage in the second hand - but it'd have a lower house edge than the first hand.

3. You must play the additional hands blind, making the play bet before the cards are dealt. This is the most common way that additional hands are accommodated. Obviously, it's a strong negative bet for the player.
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January 24th, 2012 at 12:07:08 AM permalink
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2. ..I'm not able to do the math, but I assume that the additional info from seeing 3 extra cards isn't enough to give the player an advantage in the second hand - but it'd have a lower house edge than the first hand.



Don't suppose anyone DOES know what advantage there is for a player to see three additional cards?
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January 24th, 2012 at 12:13:01 AM permalink
Quote: Tangledweb

Don't suppose anyone DOES know what advantage there is for a player to see three additional cards?


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Good question. In Stanley Ko’s booklet Mastering Three Card Poker he says that if you had a concealed computer to take maximum advantage of the information then seeing the first hand would lower the house edge from 3.37% to 3.31% on the second hand. Even if you could see all seven hands at the table the house edge would still be 2.32%.

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January 24th, 2012 at 3:04:41 AM permalink
So a fairly minimal advantage. I'm quite surprised, thought it would be of greater benefit.
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January 24th, 2012 at 4:22:43 AM permalink
It makes you wonder why some casinos are so anal about not showing other players your cards.
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January 24th, 2012 at 7:08:28 AM permalink
It's of huge benefit on some hands, but totally worthless on others I suppose.

If I have Q-6-2, I get a lot more benefit from seeing that another hand is A-A-A than I do seeing that another hand is 10-7-3.
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January 24th, 2012 at 7:46:50 AM permalink
In AC and PA two hands is common. Those players whom I've asked say they do it to reduce variance.
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January 24th, 2012 at 7:58:10 AM permalink
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It makes you wonder why some casinos are so anal about not showing other players your cards.


Probably just card-counter paranoia spilling over to every deck where something similar is possible.
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January 24th, 2012 at 8:01:53 AM permalink
I suppose it also increases the possibility for real actual collusion and card switching?
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