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January 8th, 2012 at 5:31:43 PM permalink
EvenBob
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This Wikipedia article says:

"The mathematicians and computer programmers that do this kind of work are called gaming mathematicians and gaming analysts. Casinos do not have in-house expertise in this field, so outsource their requirements to experts in the gaming analysis field, such as Mike Shackleford, the 'Wizard of Odds'."

Do casinos hire you to do their heavy lifting in the
math dept? Or is the article out of date.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
January 8th, 2012 at 5:46:43 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: EvenBob
This Wikipedia article says:

"The mathematicians and computer programmers that do this kind of work are called gaming mathematicians and gaming analysts. Casinos do not have in-house expertise in this field, so outsource their requirements to experts in the gaming analysis field, such as Mike Shackleford, the 'Wizard of Odds'."

Do casinos hire you to do their heavy lifting in the
math dept? Or is the article out of date.


The part about not having in-house mathematicians is true. However, I'm rarely asked to help with anything directly by a casino.

I wish that reference to my name were removed, as my loyalties are to the players first.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
January 8th, 2012 at 5:49:26 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: Wizard
I wish that reference to my name were removed, as my loyalties are to the players first.


Because its about you, if you remove the comment
yourself, nobody will oppose you.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
January 8th, 2012 at 6:03:25 PM permalink
EnvyBonus
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Looks like pacomartin already removed it.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:06:59 PM permalink
EvenBob
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He beat me to it, I edit Wiki all the time.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
January 8th, 2012 at 6:28:47 PM permalink
TheNightfly
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Quote: EvenBob
He beat me to it, I edit Wiki all the time.
When people say things like "How can you really trust anything you read on Wikipedia?", now I'll know why.
Happiness is underrated
January 8th, 2012 at 6:40:11 PM permalink
Wizard
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Thank you. I didn't think it was that easy to make changes. Once I tried to change the page on Jesus and my change was reversed within seconds.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
January 8th, 2012 at 6:44:39 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
Thank you. I didn't think it was that easy to make changes. Once I tried to change the page on Jesus and my change was reversed within seconds.


It depends on the subject matter.Articles on Jesus, Mohammed, Queen Elizabeth II, Barack Obama, are all very difficult to make changes. People will reverse you immediately and demand a vote on the matter (which are almost impossible to get). If you try and change it again, they report you and get you banned from making edits.

But it is not proper etiquette to make changes about yourself. It's a violation of one of the codes of conduct. You simply let someone know that the line is not accurate, and if they agree with you they will change it. If someone fights the change you need to form a consensus.

In this particular case if someone fights the change, I would just ask them to provide a reference backing up the statement. It's always easier to deny an assertion than to make one because every statement needs to be backed by a reference.
Wine loved I deeply, dice dearly -Edgar, betrayed son of Gloucester in King Lear
January 8th, 2012 at 6:46:48 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Here's another article at Wiki with the exact
same quote at the end of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaming_mathematics
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
January 8th, 2012 at 7:23:36 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: EvenBob
Here's another article at Wiki with the exact same quote at the end of it.


You can change this one. It was added by someone on Sep 30, 2007 from Perth Australia.
Wine loved I deeply, dice dearly -Edgar, betrayed son of Gloucester in King Lear
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