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August 7th, 2011 at 9:35:06 PM permalink
Kind of like baccarat, too long to post rules here
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August 7th, 2011 at 9:44:39 PM permalink
I played it this afternoon. Stay tuned for an analysis, hopefully by Tuesday.
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August 11th, 2011 at 5:12:49 PM permalink
Any thoughts on that game, wizard?
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August 11th, 2011 at 7:43:11 PM permalink
I hope to have a page on the game very shortly. Maybe even tomorrow.
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August 15th, 2011 at 10:03:36 PM permalink
Okay, please be the first to visit my new page on Zero. As always, I welcome comments and corrections.
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August 15th, 2011 at 10:22:41 PM permalink
If you enlarge the pic of you playing, the fat dealer at the
table behind you, is his stomach actually resting on the table,
or is it an illusion.
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August 16th, 2011 at 2:10:56 AM permalink
I see you brought your strategy card.

I don't have a full grasp of the game, but it seems there would be ties. Don't see any comments about that or whether there is betting on ties.
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August 16th, 2011 at 5:32:34 AM permalink
Is that your own strategy card in the photo, or the back of the rule card? If it's the rule card, that's fascinating that they'd offer strategy, but considering it's a somewhat complex new game, not surprising either.

In either case, maybe you should include a scan of the rule card.

I find it interesting that with three cards, you should either stand or double. No hits.

Is the player limited to 4 cards?

In the Basic Strategy paragraph, you compare the edge to optimal strategy. It seems to me that you should post optimal strategy. Or is it too complex?

As in the case in your photo, if the dealer has a 2 card zero, do you still lose the extra bet of the double down (and splits) ?
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August 16th, 2011 at 7:48:59 AM permalink
I think combining BJ and Baccarat for a monster house edge takes sheer genius :P
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August 16th, 2011 at 8:24:27 AM permalink
I agree, 2.3% house edge for basically a 1 to 1 payout game is very lame. 7.7% for the side bet is even lamer.
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August 16th, 2011 at 9:32:39 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If you enlarge the pic of you playing, the fat dealer at the table behind you, is his stomach actually resting on the table, or is it an illusion.



Sharp eye there Bob. I didn't pay any attention to him, but you could see the shirt is very baggy, so it may be an illusion.

Quote: odiousgambit

I see you brought your strategy card. I don't have a full grasp of the game, but it seems there would be ties. Don't see any comments about that or whether there is betting on ties.



It wasn't mine, they have it on the back of the rack card. The player would have no clue what to do without it, and get utterly slaughtered. That would be bad for a new game. The game owner wants people to like the game. When a game inventor comes to me with a game out of left field, with a non-obvious strategy, like this game, I always suggest they put the proper strategy on the rack card.
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August 16th, 2011 at 10:44:02 AM permalink
I'm more bothered by the drink bottle on the felt...


The write up looks fine, but I do have some questions.

Are players allowed to use a pencil and pad like baccarat?

Could you split or double on a natural zero, instead of taking the 3:2? Like if the dealer has a nine up, and your count indicates that the shoe is picture rich?
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August 16th, 2011 at 11:38:19 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I'm more bothered by the drink bottle on the felt...


The write up looks fine, but I do have some questions.

Are players allowed to use a pencil and pad like baccarat?

Could you split or double on a natural zero, instead of taking the 3:2? Like if the dealer has a nine up, and your count indicates that the shoe is picture rich?



That bottle was left by another player. Personally, when I leave a table I always take my trash with me and push in the chair.

The 3-2 applies to the first two cards, and you need three cards to double. However, I suppose you could hit if you really wanted to. I doubt anybody has ever tried.

Regarding writing, I was jotting down some notes at the table and nobody said anything. However, I think if you did it consistently they wouldn't like it.
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August 18th, 2011 at 9:23:34 PM permalink
I'm confused about the basic strategy on doubling after the third card. Why would you double on large hands when the goal is to get as close to zero as possible? It's almost like the doubles and the stands should be reversed.
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August 18th, 2011 at 9:41:06 PM permalink
Quote: TheNatural

I'm confused about the basic strategy on doubling after the third card. Why would you double on large hands when the goal is to get as close to zero as possible? It's almost like the doubles and the stands should be reversed.



It is the lesser of two evils. If you stand, you lose for sure. You tend to double against high dealer cards, so maybe you'll win.
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August 18th, 2011 at 9:45:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

It is the lesser of two evils. If you stand, you lose for sure. You tend to double against high dealer cards, so maybe you'll win.



So you get a fourth card after a double down? That wasn't clear in the rules. I thought you were just increasing your bet and staying with three cards.
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