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July 29th, 2011 at 10:17:13 PM permalink
My wife finally got around to telling me our
son's new wife is pregnant with the first grand
child. No, she wasn't that way when they got
married. Here is the most popular names last year
for babies:

Aiden
Jacob
Jackson >>>>>>Aiden? Jayden? Caden? Is this a joke? If they
Ethan >>>>>>name him anything like that, I'll call him Pete,
Jayden >>>>>> I swear.
Noah
Logan
Caden
Lucas
Liam
XXXX
Olivia
Emma
Chloe
Ava
Lily
Madison
Addison
Abigail
Sophia
Isabella
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July 29th, 2011 at 11:26:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob


Aiden? Jayden? Caden? Is this a joke? If they name him anything like that, I'll call him Pete, I swear.


Be glad the kid isn't black or he or she would end up with Shaniqua, Loqueesha, Santonio, Delonte or Kanye. I'm sure those parents think they're being loyal to the African heritage but geeeez, an 18-yr-old putting Tavon or DeShaun on an application to Microsoft might get tossed in the trash by a white boss. Jus sayin'.

There's always been a push towards biblical names like Matthew, Mark, John, Michael. Waaaay too common. Why would ANY parent name a kid John? No imagination. I like the sounds of names like Logan, Madison and Chloe in the list. The key is to have a name that is common enough people can remember it, spell it and pronounce it when saying it for the first time, but unique enough it denotes strength or beauty in the mind while saying it. You don't want a name that's the flavor of the month that year, which instantly might discolor the kid decades from now, like Kiefer, Cher, Rihanna, LaToya or Beyonce (gee....wonder when YOU were born, kid) or one so laughably out-of-date like Hester, Herbert, Poindexter or Gertrude. Celebrity baby names like Apple, Moon Unit and Suri get attention....I dunno, I guess Suri isn't too bad. Whatever you do, don't do like the Jackson family and name them Blanket or Jermajesty.

Some scientists say part of falling in love with someone is how the name of that person sounds when coming off the tongue. If the name has a pleasing, colorful or sing-song quality, that would be better than one that's gloomy or heavy in the mind. Alegra or Sophia versus Drexel or Adolf for example. And never name your daughter Gay.
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:10:58 AM permalink
Better not be any of these names either.

Bad Baby Names
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:12:34 AM permalink
And just an addendum here, I have a stupid name that has haunted me my whole life. My father chose to honor his Scandinavian heritage and name me after his grandfather (who was already dead when I was born) by giving me a Norweigian name that's virtually unpronounceable by Americans. By high school, I got tired of always having to spell it for people and correct their attempts at pronunciation and shortened it to something more common. Now that I'm in Las Vegas and all my player cards have my given name which must match my license, I'm having to deal with the crap all over again.

Don't let this happen to your grandkid.
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:16:16 AM permalink
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And just an addendum here, I have a stupid name that has haunted me my whole life..



Zippy? You're parents were cruel indeed...
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:22:24 AM permalink
Full name Zippyboiefinnbjørnhaktor.
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:24:57 AM permalink
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Full name Zippyboiefinnbjørnhaktor.



Is even part of that your real name?
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:34:11 AM permalink
No. lol I've shortened my given name to Chris, and I'm surprised by the people who can't even spell that right.
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:47:26 AM permalink
We had a kid named Harold in grade school. He renamed
himself Pete and he would beat the crap out of anybody
who called him Harold. He turned into a bully from being
picked on for his name and he dropped out of school in
10th grade. Names do make a difference. I wonder if the
Wiz ever researched that when he was doing the the baby names
stuff.
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July 30th, 2011 at 5:09:30 AM permalink
Here is one more slice of advice for boys names. Never give a "jr," "II," "III," etc. Years ago this was fine for people who wanted to keep the family name going. But these days it will cause no end of problems. I have had to spend much time clearing one name for credit because either the son or father had problems and the other one had a clean record. When dealing with the client they told me if they knew all the mixups that would be caused they never would have done it. If you want to include the parent's name give them that as part of the middle name.

And for crying out lout, don't give the mother's maiden name as the middle name, espically to a boy. That trend seems to have started in the 1980s. My cousin changed his middle name to his Confirmation Name because his parent's did that.
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July 30th, 2011 at 5:11:04 AM permalink
The complete name is important. I will always remember the kid in elementary school whose name was Harry Richards. Being considerate, thoughtful young people, we, of course, called him Hairy Dick.
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July 30th, 2011 at 5:23:31 AM permalink
Quote: timberjim

The complete name is important. I will always remember the kid in elementary school whose name was Harry Richards. Being considerate, thoughtful young people, we, of course, called him Hairy Dick.



There was an SNL skit in the late 1980s where Vitoria Jackson and I forget who were trying to pick out a baby name. Every name she picked he mutated into a name that could be made fun of and he would veto it. She asked, "did you get picked on as a kid?"

That being said, I find when picking names for boys women go for either more "cute" names or ones that will have a "little boy" feel for life. (eg: "Ricky" instead of "Rick.") Men want the boy to have a name that is more practical, masculine, or will sound good in the business world.

I am glad I was born about 10 years before the "unique name thing" got rolling. All thru school we really didn't have many kids with unusual names. Even the very few (>10 over 12 years) black and asian kids had basic, anglo-sounding names.

Parents, give the kid a basic sounding name. If they want a fancy name they can join the actor's guild or otherwise change it. And make it short and simple to sign.
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July 30th, 2011 at 7:53:49 AM permalink
Mary Jane
SLANG MEANING: marijuana
BAD FACTOR: Okay in elementary school, unfortunate in middle school or high school
FAMOUS NAMESAKE: Halloween peanut butter candy Mary Janes

I have a grand daughter named Mary Jane. I did not name her. I did name her older sister Belle Starr. All the kids in her school
think her name is " kewl".
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July 30th, 2011 at 12:15:56 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Here is one more slice of advice for boys names. Never give a "jr," "II," "III," etc.



True story. Mine is suffixed with a "II", problems range from odd looks as people think my wife is actually married to my father, to more serious issues such as credit ratings being mixed or bills being sent to wrong person which causes them to be late.
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July 30th, 2011 at 2:00:15 PM permalink
A few years ago, every class had 4-5 Brittany's in it. Oh boy..
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July 30th, 2011 at 2:09:55 PM permalink
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Here is one more slice of advice for boys names. Never give a "jr," "II," "III," etc. .



the only thing is, the ones who are so and so 'the third' got named by someone who was a "jr" or or a "II"
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July 30th, 2011 at 2:55:02 PM permalink
I can't remember where I saw it, but some recent baby census found something like 180 different variations of the name "Unique" for a child's name. Uneek, Unniqque, Euneeck, etc. You can't make these things up.

The implication of the report was that the vast majority of the parents were uneducated and black...
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July 30th, 2011 at 3:44:57 PM permalink
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I can't remember where I saw it, but some recent baby census found something like 180 different variations of the name "Unique" for a child's name. Uneek, Unniqque, Euneeck, etc. You can't make these things up.



I wonder how many know how Eunuch is pronounced but not what it means.
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July 30th, 2011 at 6:52:38 PM permalink
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the only thing is, the ones who are so and so 'the third' got named by someone who was a "jr" or or a "II"



To be speciffic, a "jr" must have the father's exact name. For instance, George Bush43 was NOT a "jr" or a "II" becaues he was "W" not "HW." If he had sons instead of daughters the child could be named"W" or "HW" and still be a II. A "jr" can be a "II" but a "II" may or may not be eligible to be a "jr."

In my research of old deeds and wills it seems 100 years ago it was more popular to give at least part of the father's name. As was mentioned in another post, to do so these days will mixs up credit reports, addresses, and even the occasional criminal record. I share my dad's middle name and his whole name is an aka on my credit report. I have asked but not gotten it removed. He has great credit so I don't care. But for some it turns out bad.
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July 30th, 2011 at 9:11:06 PM permalink
You wanna talk about screwed up mail and identities?

I know a family where every name starts with "Do": The father is named Donald, the mother is Dorothy. The kids are Donna, Doug, Doreen and Donald Jr.
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July 30th, 2011 at 9:22:07 PM permalink
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I know a family where every name starts with "Do": The father is named Donald, the mother is Dorothy. The kids are Donna, Doug, Doreen and Donald Jr.



According to Wikipedia, all of George Foreman's sons are named George. Two of his daughters are named Freeda George and Georgetta.

Now tel me boxing doesn't cause brain damage.
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July 30th, 2011 at 10:16:39 PM permalink
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As was mentioned in another post, to do so these days will mixs up credit reports, addresses, and even the occasional criminal record. I share my dad's middle name and his whole name is an aka on my credit report. I have asked but not gotten it removed. He has great credit so I don't care. But for some it turns out bad.



Yup. My Dodge's engine grenaded and I needed $4,000 to fix it. Losing your ride in the middle of the work week, finding a replacement vehicle, and going through the stress and hassle of that plus $4,000 out of pocket is bad enough. Finding the $4,000 to be hard to get because you have an unknown $23,000 hit on your credit is a mindf**k. Luckily the next day the bill for my old man's new Goldwing came to my house and at least quelled the fear of identity theft, but it was still an unnecessary hassle we had to deal with.

With customer service quality failing and computers being so prominent, a simple "Jr" or roman numeral suffix is just asking for trouble.
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July 31st, 2011 at 5:09:08 PM permalink
I have the same name as my (late) grandfather. (We have different middle names). We were both alive at the same time for about five years. I used to get some of his mail and such, but there has been surprisingly little confusion. It is not hard to make a name for yourself even if you accomplish nothing in life; just filling out credit card applications and getting bank accounts is enough. (I still want to accomplish something, lol). I don't know how it would be different if it didn't skip a generation.
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July 31st, 2011 at 5:49:03 PM permalink
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The complete name is important. I will always remember the kid in elementary school whose name was Harry Richards. Being considerate, thoughtful young people, we, of course, called him Hairy Dick.



I used to work with an IT guy named Richard Head. He went by Rich. If that was me, I'd legally change it or add an e on the end and pronounce it "Heed".
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July 31st, 2011 at 6:01:49 PM permalink
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I used to work with an IT guy named Richard Head.

Wow. What cruel parents. Either that or they were high on something when they named him...
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July 31st, 2011 at 6:58:06 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I have the same name as my (late) grandfather. (We have different middle names). We were both alive at the same time for about five years. I used to get some of his mail and such, but there has been surprisingly little confusion. It is not hard to make a name for yourself even if you accomplish nothing in life; just filling out credit card applications and getting bank accounts is enough. (I still want to accomplish something, lol). I don't know how it would be different if it didn't skip a generation.



The middle name, espically if it is a different letter, makes some difference as will a differing address.
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July 31st, 2011 at 9:54:35 PM permalink
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Full name Zippyboiefinnbjørnhaktor.



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July 31st, 2011 at 11:47:02 PM permalink
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I wonder how many know how Eunuch is pronounced but not what it means.


I also was wondering how many variations of Eunich, Unik, Eunuch, etc there were...there have been many "mistakes" with people trying to be creative with names and calling their children something horrendous or offensive. Yay, education!

One of my friends told me of someone who named her daughter "Placentia" trying to be creative...oops.
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July 31st, 2011 at 11:52:13 PM permalink
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One of my friends told me of someone who named her daughter "Placentia" trying to be creative...oops.



There is a city in California called Placentia, near Disneyland.
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August 1st, 2011 at 4:05:09 AM permalink
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There is a city in California called Placentia, near Disneyland.



The pla stem word means "flat", so it gives us words like plaza. The word "centa" also means cake.

The noun placenta refers to a "flat cake shaped organ" and is from the 16th century.


It's sort of like the word rectum which mean straight or right. We "rectify" the situation. It's also used to refer to the straight portion of the lower intestines, as opposed to the curvy section. In geometry you would have to teach 9th graders the term latus rectum with respect to conic sections. It's a straight line that goes through the focus and is perpendicular to the axis.
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August 1st, 2011 at 9:09:12 AM permalink
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There is a city in California called Placentia, near Disneyland.


That's incredible. Is it pronounced Pla-sent-shuh, Pla-sen-ti-a, or something else? BTW, I'm pretty sure the daughter's name wasn't a tribute or a shout-out to the city, but it's good trivia to know there's a city named that.
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August 1st, 2011 at 9:10:18 AM permalink
A friend of my dad's owned a bar named Otto's in Baltimore. His full name was the same, spelled frontwards or backwards,
OTTO MOTTO
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August 1st, 2011 at 9:24:43 AM permalink
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A friend of my dad's owned a bar named Otto's in Baltimore. His full name was the same, spelled frontwards or backwards,
OTTO MOTTO



Cool! Otherwise known as a palindrome. A well known one is A MAN, A PLAN, A CANAL, PANAMA.
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August 1st, 2011 at 10:56:38 AM permalink
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Cool! Otherwise known as a palindrome. A well known one is A MAN, A PLAN, A CANAL, PANAMA.



"Racecar" is another.
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August 1st, 2011 at 12:00:15 PM permalink
Would you belive I've heard people claim palindromes only exist in Spanish?

That's mindless cahauvinism for you.

No, wait. "Mindless chauvinism" is a pleonasm...
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September 19th, 2023 at 12:32:15 PM permalink
Some baby names you can't use, at least in New South Wales.
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