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1 vote (1.17%)
1 vote (1.17%)
7 votes (8.23%)
7 votes (8.23%)
9 votes (10.58%)
11 votes (12.94%)
9 votes (10.58%)
9 votes (10.58%)
12 votes (14.11%)
19 votes (22.35%)

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beachbumbabs
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February 20th, 2018 at 10:27:15 AM permalink
Someone asked an interesting question. So I thought I'd ask. What age are you-were you as of Feb 28, 2018?

Poll replies are confidential and not linked to your account, so I'd appreciate those willing to, make an honest reply. I used a specific date, as the poll will be open indefinitely.

I would guess that, if we get at least 50 true answers, it will be 1/3 under age 35, 1/3 36-50, 1/3 51+, based in the about 100 members I've met. Guess we'll see, hmmm? Thanks in advance.
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February 20th, 2018 at 10:39:22 AM permalink
26

Based on the demo I see in actual casino’s, I’ve always imagined there’s only a handful of active posters on the forum < 30. I don’t know a single other person my age who gambles (beyond the few posters here who’s age I’m aware of)
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February 20th, 2018 at 11:10:24 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

26

Based on the demo I see in actual casino’s, I’ve always imagined there’s only a handful of active posters on the forum < 30. I don’t know a single other person my age who gambles (beyond the few posters here who’s age I’m aware of)



I was about that age when I signed up. F#$* time flies.
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February 20th, 2018 at 12:06:46 PM permalink
I’m 38. Turn 39 on National Blackjack Day.
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February 20th, 2018 at 12:18:06 PM permalink
Y'all know I'm ancient and doddering.
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February 20th, 2018 at 1:02:41 PM permalink
Already shared plenty of times that I'm in the "31 to 35" range =)... my best guess from my experiences:

20% = < 31
20% = 31-45
60% = > 45
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February 20th, 2018 at 1:08:56 PM permalink
Damn ppl herre are old af
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February 20th, 2018 at 1:09:04 PM permalink
I gave the most accurate answer that I could. Your poll needs to have at least one more line (maybe three or four more?) in order for me to be specific!
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February 20th, 2018 at 1:34:04 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Damn ppl herre are old af

What does "af" mean young sonny?? (just kidding - but I'd assume there are some people on here that genuinely don't know =P).

Also, since this seems to be both RS and Axels goal of the forums... can we not get RS banned here (3 days) for profanity? If we can use acronyms to swear... then I'll have a follow up post with a lot of little letters =D. C'mon babs, I know you're dying to ban hammer him for at least a few days. You know, teach that little punk a lesson???
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February 20th, 2018 at 2:01:33 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Damn ppl herre are old af



Tell me about it. I am not only bald but my face hair is turning grey now. I really lost the DNA lottery.
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February 20th, 2018 at 2:03:37 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

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Based on the demo I see in actual casino’s, I’ve always imagined there’s only a handful of active posters on the forum < 30. I don’t know a single other person my age who gambles (beyond the few posters here who’s age I’m aware of)

Not to one-up you, but when I was your age, I was 27.
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February 20th, 2018 at 2:16:54 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

. I really lost the DNA lottery.

You start with whatever Punnett Square nature gave you then you add in nutrition and exercise. That's it.

Since everyone here seems to be concerned about aging let me say that if you want to live past 90 drinking is more important than exercise. Isn't that good news.
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:08:30 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Since everyone here seems to be concerned about aging let me say that if you want to live past 90 drinking is more important than exercise. Isn't that good news.



Need clarification: Which is best?
- NOT Drinking
- moderate drinking
- drinking until you're essentially embalmed
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:13:12 PM permalink
I'm younger than I feel.
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Need clarification: Which is best?
- NOT Drinking
- moderate drinking
- drinking until you're essentially embalmed


I dunno but my 95yo grandmother averages 1/2 pack a day of USA Silver Menthol 100 cigarettes, 1/5L any brand whiskey (straight), and the Crossword Puzzle from the day’s newspaper.

She credits the crossword puzzles for keeping her sharp in her old age.
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:48:24 PM permalink
Them damn millennials don’t like polls is the problem. Maybe that’s why we ended up with an unexpected prez?
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:50:41 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

- moderate drinking

And its not the social aspects, its the booze


NOTE this is from the UC Irvine 90+ study, as yet still unpublished.
Last edited by: FleaStiff on Feb 20, 2018
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February 20th, 2018 at 3:56:46 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Damn ppl herre are old af

Watch your mouth, Sonny!

And get off my lawn!
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February 20th, 2018 at 4:41:31 PM permalink
62 and going strong.
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February 20th, 2018 at 5:00:24 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

62 and going strong.



According to babs that’s no different than 92
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February 20th, 2018 at 5:26:59 PM permalink
Quote: Lucca3927

I'm younger than I feel.

Older than I feel, mentally anyways.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 21st, 2018 at 5:02:55 AM permalink
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I’m 38. Turn 39 on National Blackjack Day.



I thought I was the only one with a national blackjack day birthday. Will be 46.
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February 21st, 2018 at 5:06:45 AM permalink
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February 21st, 2018 at 5:41:21 AM permalink
So what is going to happen to casino’s once the baby boomers start croaking en masse?

Will the next generation of geriatrics continue to shred their social security checks in penny slots?
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February 21st, 2018 at 6:01:49 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

So what is going to happen to casino’s once the baby boomers start croaking en masse?

Will the next generation of geriatrics continue to shred their social security checks in penny slots?


My daughter is 26 and and enjoys playing craps occasionally but only visits the casinos with mom and dad because none of her peers are in to gambling. I'm not sure, however, that I buy in to this "millennials don't gamble" meme. When I was her/your age I had better things to do than sit in a casino and lose money (e.g., cross-country motorcycle trips, skiing, Grateful Dead concerts). Now I'm too old for that plus my wife would kill me if I bought another motorcycle so I find the craps table to be just about the right level of action for me.
Bottom line is it's not so much "millennials don't gamble" as folks in their 20s have always had more options to choose from than sitting in a casino. Just wait till their knees give out and then they will be re-filling those empty slot seats left by the deceased boomers.
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February 21st, 2018 at 7:52:42 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

What does "af" mean young sonny?? (just kidding - but I'd assume there are some people on here that genuinely don't know =P).



Amen to that!

When I joined WoV, there were so many TLAs (3-letter acronyms) that I had to start a list. It now fills 3 pages in a document file. Lots of abbreviations of casino names that Vegas players understand. AC players have their own specialty TLAs. Plus, there are many, MANY others that have inserted themselves into our day-to-day conversations.

It presents a big problem, imo. Not necessarily a problem "today," but a problem over the long term. For example, do younger computer users today still use the ever-popular "PLOS" TLA? It informed folks you had to log off quickly (or quickly switch to a different program) because of "parents looking over shoulder." I doubt folks use this much today, because smart phones allow users privacy they didn't have when using the family computer in the living room. With each passing year, I expect fewer folks will recall the meaning of PLOS, and it's just one example of many, MANY more.

But, today many folks are using TLAs less and less. Instead, they use emoji images to express every manner of thought, impression, and feeling. We used to call them emoticons. Today, some folks send emails or texts that contain ONLY emoji images. If our current technology trends continue, imo folks will quickly move on to something else and substitute the new, NEW thing for emoji images. In the years that follow, folks will forget -- and be unable to translate -- emoji meanings, so the message will become as understandable as Egyptian hieroglyphics.

I recall a long-ago cartoon involving a pre-Internet short-wave amateur radio hobbyist upset at a distant someone with whom he was communicating. The punch line was, "Take your QRX and put a lot of DX between here and your next QSL." How many of you understand the joke?


Here are the "answers":
QRX -- "Standing by" or "Do you want me to stand by (and wait for your reply)?"
DX -- Distance
QSL -- Acknowledgment you received my message. Short-wave radio listeners collected QSLs from foreign broadcasters, such as the BBC, Radio Moscow, Radio Quito (Ecuador), etc. The listener would report what was broadcast, clarity of signal, etc., and the broadcaster would mail a small certificate confirming you heard the program. Short-wave radio enthusiasts collected QSLs.

So, the cartoon character was telling someone to go somewhere far away and not come back. Search on "Amateur Radio Q-code" to see more...


Today, schools apparently no longer teach pupils how to write in script. Young folks, when required to sign their name, don't know what to do. (Happened recently to friends of mine. Child passed test for Driver License, had to sign name as it would appear on license, and just stared at parent while trying to figure out how to proceed.) So, a lot more "stuff" is going to be unreadable by coming generations. I can read the original text written for the Declaration of Independence, but only with difficulty. Same will be true with other script as "penmanship" skills continue to wane, until script becomes as readable to the average person as hieroglyphics.
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February 21st, 2018 at 9:32:36 AM permalink
Sure, you couldn't have asked this three weeks earlier, when I was in a lower age bracket...
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February 21st, 2018 at 10:41:07 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

. . . a lot more "stuff" is going to be unreadable by coming generations. I can read the original text written for the Declaration of Independence, but only with difficulty. Same will be true with other script as "penmanship" skills continue to wane, until script becomes as readable to the average person as hieroglyphics.



Schools used to teach Latin (and Greek) so that students could read ancient texts and literature. Not so much now. And if you've never tried to read Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales or works by Wm. Shakespeare or by Scottish authors (Like Sir Walter Scott) you would be surprised at how far the English language was from current day English. Some of those works are inaccessible today - unless your text has footnotes that decipher the Olde English.
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February 21st, 2018 at 11:26:53 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Schools used to teach Latin (and Greek) so that students could read ancient texts and literature. Not so much now. And if you've never tried to read Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales or works by Wm. Shakespeare or by Scottish authors (Like Sir Walter Scott) you would be surprised at how far the English language was from current day English. Some of those works are inaccessible today - unless your text has footnotes that decipher the Olde English.



In college I had a writing professor (Mark Harris, who wrote Bang the Drum Slowly) who used Shakespeare to help us understand how to make our writing more rich. Shakespeare's plays were full of bawdy puns that simply don't make sense to us, but were uproarious to his audience. For example, in Hamlet, Rosencrantz, Guildenstern, and Hamlet are discussing the king.

HAMLET: "The king is a thing..."
GUILDENSTERN: "A thing, my lord?"
HAMLET: "Of nothing. Bring me to him. "

The last line is often translated to modern English as "of nothing." So the line today simply means, "The king doesn't matter." But in Shakespeare's day, the actual line was, "...of little naught. Bring me to him." it was outrageous. "Thing" was slang for penis. So the line is a double entendre: the king doesn't matter, but also, he is impotent, and has a small penis!

Anyhow, I guess knowing that means I'm old, too.

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February 21st, 2018 at 12:02:53 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Schools used to teach Latin (and Greek) so that students could read ancient texts and literature. Not so much now. And if you've never tried to read Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales or works by Wm. Shakespeare or by Scottish authors (Like Sir Walter Scott) you would be surprised at how far the English language was from current day English. Some of those works are inaccessible today - unless your text has footnotes that decipher the Olde English.



That was before everything was easily available in ones native language. Schools also had less to teach back then. They could spend an hour a day on penmanship because they didn't teach computer science or a hundred other modern disciplines. My father( born in 1925) told me he didn't learn anything about the Civil War or later in US History. The Great War was discussed in a subject that seems like it would be Current Events. For some reason, a boy being educated in Brooklyn was expected to have a working knowledge of the English Royal Family and Russia was divided into two countries. Red Russia ( the area around Moscow) and White Russia( everything else). Manifest Destiny and The White Mans Burden were considered to be real, and race mixing was known to cause defective babies.
American authors were treated as a rung below English ones, and Paris was the center of the known universe.
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February 21st, 2018 at 2:01:48 PM permalink
So, just marking the spot, a day later.

62 replies

9 35 and under
28 36-50
25 over 50.

Skewing a bit older than I expected, but a nice range nonetheless. Really appreciate the info.

Hope not TOO much of it is sock-puppet dupes. Lol...
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February 21st, 2018 at 2:03:26 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I gave the most accurate answer that I could. Your poll needs to have at least one more line (maybe three or four more?) in order for me to be specific!



Lol...I'm limited to 10, unfortunately. Perhaps I should have made the intervals by 7s.
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February 21st, 2018 at 2:53:35 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

"Thing" was slang for penis.

Just about everything was slang for something sexual in those days. After all, public masturbation was not illegal and plays were produced in a theater which was an anteroom to a brothel.
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February 21st, 2018 at 3:49:33 PM permalink
What did I say, 80% over 50. It was probably true, but they all died in the meantime.
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February 21st, 2018 at 4:07:38 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

What did I say, 80% over 50. It was probably true, but they all died in the meantime.



Lol. You don't exaggerate. Never. Couldn't happen.

29 of 64 = 80% to me, too.
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February 21st, 2018 at 4:26:51 PM permalink
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Damn ppl herre are old af



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February 21st, 2018 at 4:32:12 PM permalink
lol at the young whippersnapper who's under 21
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February 21st, 2018 at 4:41:26 PM permalink
At the very least, I'm old enough to remember when Vegas was about the big three-

Gambling

Hookers

Booze.

Nobody in their right mind brought their kids and Vegas didn't cater itself as a family freildy destination. Pick a hotel at random and look it up on Traveloity. I bet you can't get more than a page and a half of reviews before you see a comment about how something offended their children or that there was nothing for them to do.

I'm old enough to remember that.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 12:19:03 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

lol at the young whippersnapper who's under 21

Not so LOL at times. I remember one incident that took place when UCLA's basketball team was some sort of finalist or something and half the UCLA frat rat community was in town. One guy who looked like his sport was more likely to be football walked up to the craps table and presented his birth certificate proving he had recently passed 21. He also presented a Players Club card that was of a style that was at least three years old and received a congratulatory message from the Floor.

And at the NYC race track's two dollar window it was almost impossible for the underaged to make a bet but with a wad of hundreds in your hand it was easy at the higher windows.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 12:29:49 AM permalink
Quote: Lucca3927


Gambling
Hookers
Booze.

Even San Francisco had the slogan 'screwed, blewed and tatooed'

Vegas used to be peanut shells on the floor. It was Benny Binion who picked up the shells and laid down some carpeting, hired female dealers, etc.

Circus Circus, Mirage, Treasure Island were pioneers in the family entertainment days.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 1:51:11 AM permalink
I remember (sorta) first time in LV. I was a youngin and we (my family) were driving across the country for some reason and we stayed in Vegas for a few days. I thought it was pretty cool because, well, it’s Vegas. But I quickly learned there isn’t much to do, other than the arcades - and I wasn’t much of an arcade player. Buffets were awesome but that’s only twice a day.

I remember playing fake keno in the hotel/casino lobby one time when my parents were playing craps. I just marked up some tickets and pretended I was playing for real. It was pretty fun, TBH.


Then I was like, why dafaq do people bring their kids to Vegas, this is stupid.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 5:52:20 AM permalink
Quote: RS

I remember playing fake keno in the hotel/casino lobby one time when my parents were playing craps. I just marked up some tickets and pretended I was playing for real. It was pretty fun, TBH.

One woman's three year played keno, the little girl circled all 80 numbers on the ticket and gave it to her mother. Now framed as a cherished momento. Though in general there really is not all that much other than movies, arcades, etc. One of the major draws of that casino that welcomed hundreds of RVs was the two dollar movies. At two dollars each you could park the kids there and not have to worry too much. I think this was in Laughlin though, can't really recall it clearly since it was so long ago.

Leaving the kids in the hotel room is probably good entertainment for them since there are often adult cable channels available. Cheapest baby sitter there is.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 1:05:01 PM permalink
73 votes... I would have taken the under... Wow!
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February 22nd, 2018 at 1:22:01 PM permalink
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73 votes... I would have taken the under... Wow!



8617 active members. A few more votes and we’ll have 1% of the active member base having voted. Probably need 18-20% in order for the results to be considered statistically significant
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February 22nd, 2018 at 2:41:43 PM permalink
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8617 active members. A few more votes and we’ll have 1% of the active member base having voted. Probably need 18-20% in order for the results to be considered statistically significant



I wonder how that works. In consumer polls, results are weighted to correct for age related participation biases. What happens when the polling question is "how old are you?"

I do think it's easier to do the polls here on a computer instead of on a phone. And I think that method of use skews with age. So, to the extent that we already have a self-selection bias, it may be compounded by accessibility and ease of use issues.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 7:16:11 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

8617 active members.



Don't know if I buy that number. I guess it depends on how you define active. I suspect this is a lot of non posting lurkers.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 8:06:35 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

I suspect this is a lot of non posting lurkers.

Non posting lurker equals potential poster.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 8:17:54 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Non posting lurker equals potential poster.



Very true. Many first time posts start out with ....”I’ve been reading this forum for a long time.. “


Even the lurkers can vote in the age poll without having to say anything. It’s anonymous so I don’t see why anyone would consciously choose not to vote. 73 vote turnout is kinda disappointing
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February 22nd, 2018 at 9:33:49 PM permalink
There are approximately 120 people logged in to WOV forum at this particular moment. Even if many of them just stay permanently logged in as long as their computer is on, a vote turnout of 73 seems low.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 10:13:02 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Very true. Many first time posts start out with ....”I’ve been reading this forum for a long time.. “



I always think it is the same person who does it. Not really any new people.
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