FleaStiff
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June 5th, 2010 at 3:07:49 PM permalink
Here is a tale of two casinos: The Riviera and The Sahara.

Now don't get me wrong here... I didn't create this. I stole it from Poker Girl in Vegas. And I've edited it a bit too. I think this is a perfect illustration of what is wrong with Vegas and its crying about empty rooms.

So courtesy of some knock-out broad who plays poker, here are her recent comments:

I went to the Riviera today because they were giving away free slot play. Um, yeah, guess how much I got??
Yeah, I got a whole freaking dollar. I played that one stinking dollar and did not put another dime in their machines. I was so fxxxing annoyed that I drove there, parked, rode the elevator, walked all through the casino in heels, filled out paperwork to the get the card, found a machine that was playable and they have the never to give me a dollar?? I'm boycotting that place now. You guys should do the same. It's a dump anyway.

Versus:

The Sahara
Yes, it's old and next to Crack town USA, but the players club is bomb! When you join you get a free spin on this slot machine and it gives out free slot play. Then, everyday for eternity you get one free spin per day. Great deal! Especially for locals that live nearby.

For every 100 points you earn, you get a five dollar bill and Five Dollars in free slot play. Every time you play you earn comps that can be used in the gift shop and restaurants etc. No hassle!

It's not over... As you are earning points and earning comps, you are also earning drawing entries for a drawing that is done twice a day. More free prizes and slot play are given away via this drawing.

Last but not least, they have a daily slot tournament everyday of the week from Tuesday through Saturday. And its free to all players club members. I was sitting next to a girl the other night and she got second place in the slot tourney and she had two hundred bucks in free slot play that she was using!! Color me jealous.

Oh yeah and then today in the mail I got a card from the Sahara. They sent me fifty dollars in free slot play to use this month!!!! Holy crap! I love the Sahara. Love love love. And, I'm not kidding...,. they have great machines that pay off. I win like crazy every time I play there.
FleaStiff
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June 5th, 2010 at 3:16:53 PM permalink
This knock out broad in heels walked through two different casinos recently and had totally different reactions. I'll admit that her resolve to never go back to one place and her obvious love for the other place will neither make nor break either casino, yet one has to think that one of those casinos seems to be doing the right thing!

Why do casinos insist on giving away One Freaking Dollar and then complain about the recession? The airlines? The newly opened casinos? The competition from other states? When are the casinos going to realize that when times are tough, One Freaking Dollar just won't cut it!

Sure. Some of those slot deals can be less than they appear to be, but note what was valued: Comps, Points, Contests and No Hassles!

So when will Vegas executives stop complaining about the recession and start listening to a knock out broad who likes to put a few bucks through their slot machines?

Steve Wynn talked about tightening his belt rather than making deep cuts, but he seems to have made deep cuts.

Hotel rooms? This is how a Local was treated. Room rates? One Freaking Dollar discount on a room rate won't cut it. But a room rate at the Sahara was offered via Twitter ... even with the resort fee it was a total of 7.15 for the room. Sold out real fast. And now all those Sahara club members monitor their twitter feeds real closely! Vegas has to give up the One Freaking Dollar mentality of worthless knick knacks. Deep discounts, Free This and Free That and No Hassles. Bite down on the bullet Vegas!!
DJTeddyBear
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June 5th, 2010 at 5:05:32 PM permalink
Wait a sec ...

A dollar?


You mean, like, a WHOLE dollar?
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FleaStiff
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June 6th, 2010 at 2:47:11 AM permalink
Precisely.
Such a miserly attitude at the Riviera.

Whereas the Sahara has its Drink plus the shot glass for One Dollar.
And recently offered their rooms for one dollar via Twitter.

How can Vegas be groaning so about The Recession or The Oversupply ... when its obvious that Vegas just has to start treating their customers better. Its not just that "a WHOLE dollar?" but that attitude about it that persists in tough times. Knick and Knack simply can no longer cut it! Not in this economy. Not with this oversupply of rooms.
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June 6th, 2010 at 5:25:34 PM permalink
I remember a dealer telling me how she had a customer that was playing and went for the big one and won $5K. He tossed her a 50 cent tip. It's much much worse than not getting tipped at all.

It is surprising how much money these executives are paid to come up with these promotions. They would be better off offering to beat you with a leather strap. At least they would get the masochist crowd.

Sahara has always tried to attract the locals. It has to, since the property can't get much more bare bones. No buffet, no specialty dining (2 coffee shops and a steak house). There are lots of low minimum, but high HA blackjack with every kind of side bet you can think of.
FleaStiff
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June 6th, 2010 at 7:23:51 PM permalink
I guess we could argue some points but in general I think the two places are comparable. Sharp gamblers probably would go to neither of them. I was focusing more on the attitudes. Black jack is probably equally disadvantageous in each of the casinos. The food pretty bland in each of them. But atleast one place doesn't try to offer a whole dollar and then blame The Recession or Over Supply. The Sahara seems to be doing what is necessary to market a bare-bones low rollers joint. The Riviera seems to be living in the past with its One Freakin' Dollar attempt to market a low rollers joint that is not all that much better than the Sahara.

Remember, these comments were by someone who puts a few bucks through slot machines, not by a calculator toting math whiz who has a real bankroll. That one freakin' dollar attitude is a carry over from before the recession.
nyuhoosier
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June 6th, 2010 at 8:40:16 PM permalink
I think I have an example of the Riviera being even more miserly, if you can believe it. I printed out this coupon thinking I would go to the promotions desk, hand over $20 and have $40 in play applied to my card. That seems to be what the coupon offers.

Instead I was told that $20 would buy me $40 in promotional slot play to be used at a bank of machines in the players' club area. A closer look at the machines showed them to be the kind where small wins pay nothing and big wins pay a greatly reduced amount. Like the poker chick, I went through the hassle of parking all the way at the opposite end of the property and schelpping to the promotions desk only to be annoyed by the Riv's cheapness.

A total waste of time and effort.

One thing I do like about the Riv is that it has an automated video blackjack station that pays 3-2. We'll see how long that lasts.
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June 6th, 2010 at 8:49:45 PM permalink
Quote: nyuhoosier

Like the poker chick, I went through the hassle of parking all the way at the opposite end of the property and schelpping to the promotions desk only to be annoyed by the Riv's cheapness.



Actually "shclep" is a verb meaning to lug or haul something. See almost any of the Wizard's hotel reviews, where he uses it correctly saying he had "to schlep my luggage all the way across the casino." I doubt the coupon was that heavy ;)
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nyuhoosier
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June 7th, 2010 at 12:49:39 AM permalink
You're absolutely right, and I can't even claim I was referring to my oxygen tank.

It appears we both typed it incorrectly, though.

Anyone else agree that some of the best words are Yiddish in origin? Here is a LINK to 40 Yiddish words you should know, including my favorite, schmuck.
DJTeddyBear
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June 7th, 2010 at 5:26:20 AM permalink
Yeah, yiddish has some of the best words.

But your use of 'schlep' is acceptable. After all, like a shlemiel, you schlepped your tuches all over that varschtinkana place, and for what? Bupkes!


FYI - From that Yiddish words page:
Quote:

shlep
To drag, traditionally something you donít really need; to carry unwillingly.
When people "shlep around," they are dragging themselves, perhaps slouchingly.
On vacation, when Iím the one who ends up carrying the heavy suitcase I begged my wife to leave at home, I shlep it.

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