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6 votes (20.68%)
4 votes (13.79%)
8 votes (27.58%)
22 votes (75.86%)
2 votes (6.89%)

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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 7:50:28 AM permalink
There is a discussion going on regarding Obamacare on a different thread. There are many, on both sides of the argument, who seem to be steadfast in their opinion on a very complicated issue. So I am taking this poll to get a feel for whether I am misinterpreting what people may be trying to say. While you're at it, vote as to whether you are for or against.
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October 26th, 2013 at 8:22:55 AM permalink
What happened to being able to vote for "I am a bigot" or "I am Varmenti"
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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 8:25:43 AM permalink
LOLOL...I'll try not to make the same mistake again.
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Beethoven9th
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October 26th, 2013 at 8:51:45 AM permalink
I don't understand this poll. What's the purpose of the "I am right" and "I may be wrong" options?? These mean NOTHING without any context.
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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 8:54:57 AM permalink
It's simple. The intent is to determine what % of the voters are so steadfast in their opinion that they believe that their opinion is absolutely right.
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October 26th, 2013 at 9:08:48 AM permalink
I am against Obamacare. I am not against the idea of changes to our former health care policies, I just think that this bill was done in the dark and is not a good one.

It is okay with me if my observations about the bill end up being wrong because that would mean that the bill would turn out good for the people of our country.
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October 26th, 2013 at 9:41:09 AM permalink
So far only 1 person, out the 9 who have voted, believe that their opinion of this plan is the absolute right one. Interesting.
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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 10:18:38 AM permalink
Now also interesting that out of 13 voters, only 7 have stated whether they are adamant that they are right, or they admit that they may be wrong. Is there some other possible answer? It seems to me that you absolutely think you're right and can't be swayed, or you have an opinion but believe it's possible that you are wrong. Kind of black and white. No?
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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 11:39:28 AM permalink
A few hours in and my initial inclination, and takeaway, despite small sample size and time frame is that the other Obamacare thread's numerous postings are being made by just a few people.
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steeldco
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October 26th, 2013 at 1:23:21 PM permalink
I suppose that I can assume that any vote (non-vote) not cast as to whether or not you're sure that your opinion is a correct can be taken as one to say that you're not steadfastly sure.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:06:01 PM permalink
Quote: steeldco

I suppose that I can assume that any vote (non-vote) not cast as to whether or not you're sure that your opinion is a correct can be taken as one to say that you're not steadfastly sure.


Or not interested. Your conclusions, based on a poll where I can't be both 'sure' and 'against' are not worth the internet space they are taking up. I answered 'against', as I felt that was more valuable than answering 'I'm sure'.

My answer 'against' is based on my own personal biases. I KNOW how much more difficult it is to deal with a government insurer like Medicare than a private insurer like Blue Cross. The extra boxes I have to check, and attestations I have to sign, and charts I have to review and make sure every i is dotted, for Medicare compared to private insurers is mind boggling. This to get a fraction of what the private insurer will pay me for far less paperwork for a given patient. The estimate for a mid sized anesthesia group (10 docs) was one additional secretarial FTE to just handle Medicare paperwork requirements. What a waste. Wait til we see what Obamacare requirements are.... because they haven't been provided to us yet!!!!!!!!

But if I was an uninsured person who now can have some insurance because of Obamacre, I would also be 'sure', and be 'for' as well. So basically your poll is ill-designed, and that is probably why many just choose not to answer....
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:12:29 PM permalink
Maybe a bit more reading comprehension on your part would help? Please go back and re-read the original post.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:20:22 PM permalink
Quote: steeldco

Maybe a bit more reading comprehension on your part would help? Please go back and re-read the original post.


SOOPOO is right. An uninsured person who supports Obamacare will say that they are 'sure' about their position. Also, opponents of Obamacare are more open-minded and will be more likely to say that they "could be wrong".
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:35:37 PM permalink
" opponents of Obamacare are more open-minded " open bias showing ?
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:43:27 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

" opponents of Obamacare are more open-minded "


Supporters of any legislation that has already passed are going to be more sure of their position than opponents. Regarding Obamacare, many supporters still won't admit that they could be wrong, even after all the glitches with a simple freakin website.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:47:54 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

SOOPOO is right. An uninsured person who supports Obamacare will say that they are 'sure' about their position. Also, opponents of Obamacare are more open-minded and will be more likely to say that they "could be wrong".



First, and foremost, I wanted to get a feel for the number of people who were sure that their position was the RIGHT position. I didn't care which side it was on. If you care to re-read the first post, as I asked SOOPOO to do, then I think you would see that the first step was to answer the question as to certainty of position. THEN, as a second step I asked that people vote for or against.

Lastly, was my post poorly worded? Yes. I could have done a much better job of it. However, I still think written okay enough to understand what the 2 steps were.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:49:26 PM permalink
Also, you will note that the poll did not connect the dots as to which side of the argument was stating that they might be wrong in their opinion. Again, because that's not what I was looking for in the answers.

Edited to add the word "not" before connect.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:55:00 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Also, opponents of Obamacare are more open-minded and will be more likely to say that they "could be wrong".



The word "conservative" itself reeks of open-mindedness. Er, yeah? Are they the ones for Obamacare?
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:06:42 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The word "conservative" itself reeks of open-mindedness.


Unions are conservative? Wow, didn't know that. (Such a statement reeks of silliness, if you ask me)
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:00:05 PM permalink
The ACA is simply a new area of Socialism. This time the tax will be on the middle class. But I have already been notified by the government that it won't affect me cause I work for the government. Sucks to be everyone else.
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