Roulette
July 28th, 2012 at 8:23:34 PM
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Can someone run a simulation on a combo for roulette ?
2 units on the first 6 numbers (1,4,first 12)
1 unit in the (7,10,8,11) corner
1 unit in the (13,16,14,17) corner
2 units on the 4th set of 6 numbers (19,22, second 12)
1 unit in the (26,29,27,30)
2 units on the last 6 numbers (31,34, third 12)
Think it has some short term promise....
2 units on the first 6 numbers (1,4,first 12)
1 unit in the (7,10,8,11) corner
1 unit in the (13,16,14,17) corner
2 units on the 4th set of 6 numbers (19,22, second 12)
1 unit in the (26,29,27,30)
2 units on the last 6 numbers (31,34, third 12)
Think it has some short term promise....
July 28th, 2012 at 8:34:33 PM
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i cant run the sim for you but i just want to clear something up for your own information.
i assume you are referring to the chip placement when you say 1,4,first 12?
it is a little confusing.
you can just say the first six line, or double street 1-6.
you can refer to the others as six line 19-24 or just line 19-24, or double street 31-36.
most roulette players here will know what that means.
technically, you cant really call 19-24 the 4th set of six numbers.
there are eleven possible sixline bets:
1-6, 4-9, 7-12, 10-15, 13-18, 16-21, 19-24, 22-27, 25-30, 28-33, 31-36.
making 19-24 the 7th possible sixline/double street bet.
good luck with your bets, play a single zero wheel if you can!
i assume you are referring to the chip placement when you say 1,4,first 12?
it is a little confusing.
you can just say the first six line, or double street 1-6.
you can refer to the others as six line 19-24 or just line 19-24, or double street 31-36.
most roulette players here will know what that means.
technically, you cant really call 19-24 the 4th set of six numbers.
there are eleven possible sixline bets:
1-6, 4-9, 7-12, 10-15, 13-18, 16-21, 19-24, 22-27, 25-30, 28-33, 31-36.
making 19-24 the 7th possible sixline/double street bet.
good luck with your bets, play a single zero wheel if you can!
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:36:00 PM
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Quote: Tmf
Think it has some short term promise....
Why, because it covers 30 numbers? Bet on 5 double streets,
it accomplishments the same thing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 28th, 2012 at 8:54:05 PM
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For What data??Quote: TmfCan someone run a simulation on a combo for roulette ?
Is this what you want?
Roulette Xtreme can run simulations.
It even shows the proper name for the bets you asked for
here is a table of the results for each spin
It shows a -2/38 house edge on your total bet.
spin prob net result return
0 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
00 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
1 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
2 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
3 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
4 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
5 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
6 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
7 0.026315789 0 0
8 0.026315789 0 0
9 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
10 0.026315789 0 0
11 0.026315789 0 0
12 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
13 0.026315789 0 0
14 0.026315789 0 0
15 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
16 0.026315789 0 0
17 0.026315789 0 0
18 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
19 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
20 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
21 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
22 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
23 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
24 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
25 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
26 0.026315789 0 0
27 0.026315789 0 0
28 0.026315789 -9 -0.236842105
29 0.026315789 0 0
30 0.026315789 0 0
31 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
32 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
33 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
34 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
35 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
36 0.026315789 3 0.078947368
total -0.473684211
Bet 9
house edge -0.052631579
I might have made a mistake.
Please check my work, I'm in a hurry for a Saturday night party
Bye Bye for now ;)
Sally
I Heart Vi Hart
July 28th, 2012 at 8:54:31 PM
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For American roulette,my back of the napkin estimate is you will lose at a rate of -5.26%
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:18:23 PM
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My daughter, Sally, asked to add this to your thread.Quote: TmfCan someone run a simulation on a combo for roulette ?
Think it has some short term promise....
Prob % Result
8/38 21.05% -9 units
12/38 31.58% 0 units
18/38 47.37% +3 units
In 100 of these bets you would have about a 84% chance of being down
Here is a graph of 100 bets.
She needs more info on the type of simulation you would like.
Bankroll, win goal and so on
Enjoy!
July 29th, 2012 at 7:58:21 PM
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I am new to this stuff so most of the responses I got, I did not understand.
On my IPad it wins if I stick to a stop or profit goal. I have been betting $45 a hand and walking if up $150 or better. Walking if i loose 4 in a row or $180. The most I can make each roll is $15 on the 6 line bets. The corner bets are a wash.
On my IPad it wins if I stick to a stop or profit goal. I have been betting $45 a hand and walking if up $150 or better. Walking if i loose 4 in a row or $180. The most I can make each roll is $15 on the 6 line bets. The corner bets are a wash.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:32:11 PM
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No time like the present to start learning!Quote: TmfI am new to this stuff so most of the responses I got, I did not understand.
Yes, we agree with your bets and results.Quote: TmfThe most I can make each roll is $15 on the 6 line bets. The corner bets are a wash.
Prob Units Result
21.05% -9 -45
31.58% 0 0
47.37% 3 +15OK.Quote: TmfOn my IPad it wins if I stick to a stop or profit goal.
I have been betting $45 a hand and walking if up $150 or better.
Walking if i loose 4 in a row or $180.
$180 start bankroll
$330 target bankroll
Total bets each spin = $45
Good Luck
Here are the results of 1 million sessions.
The session ended if you had less than the $45 needed to make the next bet.
(It would add only 1% more to the success rate of winning $150)
End Bank freq freq/100
0 149460 14.95%
15 278613 27.86%
30 380766 38.08%
330 191161 19.12%
The average number of games played was 29.3
here is the data to look at
grouped data
items: 1000000
minimum value: 4.00
first quartile: 13.00
median: 22.00
third quartile: 38.00
maximum value: 297.00
mean value: 29.31
midrange: 150.50
range: 293.00
interquartile range: 25.00
mean abs deviation: 17.14
sample variance (n): 540.51
sample std dev (n): 23.25
The program I used for the simulation is for Windows only.
I do not think you could run it on your IPad
Sally
I Heart Vi Hart
July 30th, 2012 at 12:26:01 PM
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Thanks for the reply and info ! Doesn't look too hot.
I wonder if my profit goal is too high ?
What if it was $100 instead of $150?
I wonder if my profit goal is too high ?
What if it was $100 instead of $150?
July 30th, 2012 at 12:46:20 PM
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I knew you would ask that ;)
I had ran a few more
Goal / Prob
$100 30.58%
$75 41.92%
$50 49.54%
$30 69.57%
$15 83.31%
Now to win $15, 10 times in a row??
83.31%^10 (^ = to the power of) = 16.1%
Sally
From your next post - I did not really want to extend this thread
No and No
The game has been studied for over 200 years.
You have to find what works best for you.
I had ran a few more
Goal / Prob
$100 30.58%
$75 41.92%
$50 49.54%
$30 69.57%
$15 83.31%
Now to win $15, 10 times in a row??
83.31%^10 (^ = to the power of) = 16.1%
Sally
From your next post - I did not really want to extend this thread
Quote: TmfThanks Sally. Are you an actuary or engineer ?
No and No
I do not really play much Roulette, so I really have not looked into that.Quote: TmfDo you have any combinations that have better odds than my system ?
The game has been studied for over 200 years.
You have to find what works best for you.
I Heart Vi Hart
