bobilly
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:05:08 PM permalink
We are going to have a 10 person draw (numbers in a hat) for a bet picking the to ten players for a draft. Question is, does the first person to draw have better odds of picking the number 1 player than the rest to the drawers? What would the odds be for the first to draw, then second on down?
dwheatley
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:19:13 PM permalink
No.

Everyone has the same chance. Unless you can actually see the numbers if you sneak a peak in the hat... Then it depends on how easy they are to see.
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buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:21:48 PM permalink
the first person to draw has a 13.673% advantage.
bobilly
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:29:05 PM permalink
How is that? How can I do the math?
buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:35:41 PM permalink
Just joshing. It's one chance in 10 for everybody. Think about it. But if nobody draws the number 1 in the first nine picks, the last guy to draw has a 100% chance of drawing #1.

You could always have guys draws number 1 to 10 to see in what order they draw for the actual picks !
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:49:44 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

the first person to draw has a 13.673% advantage.



I came up with 14.272%. Where did I mess up?
DJTeddyBear
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:50:08 PM permalink
Everyone has equal probability.

HOWEVER, if the people before you reveal their numbers, then it changes your odds. Obviously, if nobody got #1, your odds are up. If someone got it, your chance is zero.

If all folded papers remain secret, then everyone still has the same chance.

For this reason, some people/groups try to enforce the rule that nobody unfold the paper until everyone has selected.
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buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 1:51:12 PM permalink
Quote: RoundMan

I came up with 14.272%. Where did I mess up?



You forget to factor in the Obama Care tax.
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July 10th, 2012 at 2:03:58 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Everyone has equal probability.

HOWEVER, if the people before you reveal their numbers, then it changes your odds. Obviously, if nobody got #1, your odds are up. If someone got it, your chance is zero.

If all folded papers remain secret, then everyone still has the same chance.

For this reason, some people/groups try to enforce the rule that nobody unfold the paper until everyone has selected.



I don't think so. What does unfolding the paper have to do with it? If you are getting at the fact that you can recalculate your odds based on the remaining choices after the first few people have removed some, that is irrelevant.
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DJTeddyBear
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July 10th, 2012 at 6:43:15 PM permalink
It's the same as in poker when you're all in with more cards to come and someone tells you they folded one of your outs. Immediately your outlook isn't so good.
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July 10th, 2012 at 6:55:17 PM permalink
Aw , Teddy they just say that to make you feel bad. Poker players are notorious liars.
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