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June 8th, 2011 at 11:24:07 AM permalink
s2dbaker
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http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/margaritaville-flamingo-announce-plans-open-margaritaville-casino-flamingo-fall-2011-1523635.htm

Can Tobe Keith's casino be far behind?
June 8th, 2011 at 11:31:46 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
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What that "news" release doesn't tell you is that the steakhouse is closing, and this new casino using that space.

I read about this a few days ago, I beleive in Anthony Curtis' Las Vegas Advisor.
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June 8th, 2011 at 11:35:22 AM permalink
s2dbaker
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
What that "news" release doesn't tell you is that the steakhouse is closing, and this new casino using that space.

I read about this a few days ago, I beleive in Anthony Curtis' Las Vegas Advisor.
that area has been closed off since before the Superbowl. I Wonder why there was such a long delay to announce it.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:59:39 AM permalink
pacomartin
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I wonder if this will spark a new trend in mini themed casinos. It may be thought of as a replacement for O'Sheas since they plan to tear down that building for Project Linq. Plans call for a 15,000-square-foot addition to the Flamingo's casino with 22 table games and 220 slot machines.

Margaritaville, and the empty steakhouse are in the upper left.

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August 17th, 2011 at 9:42:27 AM permalink
ItsCalledSoccer
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Wouldn't this just be another "party pit" like Pussycat Dolls, Playboy, etc.?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:59:41 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: ItsCalledSoccer
Wouldn't this just be another "party pit" like Pussycat Dolls, Playboy, etc.?


I don't think it is quite the same. The "party pits" have less of a celebrity brand on them. Jimmy Buffet is branding the casino like he does with his Margaritaville and numerous other celebrities do with their nightclubs. The impression I get is that he will have an ownership share. Possibly he can make management decisions like choosing the games and setting the return on the slot machines.

The Wizard may have enough of a following that he could brand a relatively small casino like this (22 tables and 200+ slot machines). I think if he was allowed some freeplay in how to advertise the games, selection of the games, etc. that he could build a business.
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August 17th, 2011 at 11:55:05 PM permalink
NicksGamingStuff
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Hey this is a good idea, we should all pool our money together and open a casino with great games, % return on all the machines, and advertise it as the best place to play in Las Vegas. It could be a small place, but with the Wiz's following it would make a good amount of money.
August 18th, 2011 at 5:02:17 AM permalink
Tiltpoul
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Quote: NicksGamingStuff
Hey this is a good idea, we should all pool our money together and open a casino with great games, % return on all the machines, and advertise it as the best place to play in Las Vegas. It could be a small place, but with the Wiz's following it would make a good amount of money.


I really kind of wonder if that would actually work profitably. We all say that it would be a great place to play, and no doubt it would be. However, it would almost have to be a zero frills, zero players club kind of place. While I think many casinos do cutback to an extreme measure, there is something to be said for getting drinks, a free meal, a nice room etc. I've often thought about a concept casino based on a similar premise, but you would have to generate HUGE traffic and have people betting a lot of money to come out ahead. If the 6-5 BJ games were really that bad for business, most strip casinos wouldn't have them all over with people playing them.
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August 18th, 2011 at 5:10:29 AM permalink
Tiltpoul
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Quote: pacomartin
I don't think it is quite the same. The "party pits" have less of a celebrity brand on them. Jimmy Buffet is branding the casino like he does with his Margaritaville and numerous other celebrities do with their nightclubs. The impression I get is that he will have an ownership share. Possibly he can make management decisions like choosing the games and setting the return on the slot machines.


Quote: Wikipedia (so who knows if it's reliable)

"On January 13, 2011, Caesars central division president John Payne said “We are disappointed that our project with Margaritaville [in Biloxi] will not proceed. We will continue to explore opportunities that will allow us to enhance our resort. We remain committed to the Gulf Coast.”


On March 30, 2011, BuffettNews.com reported that the Las Vegas Margaritaville at the Flamingo will be expanding to include its very own branded casino, which will be located adjacent to the existing Margaritaville Cafe. The casino is scheduled to open in August 2011.

On June 22, 2011, Paradise Casino LLC unveiled plans for a Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville Casino and Hotel to be built east of Shreveport, LA in neighboring Bossier City. The complex, a $170 million, 400-room resort, would include an 18- to 20-story hotel tower, 1,000-seat entertainment complex with a VIP balcony and an outdoor tropical area visible to the north from the Louisiana Boardwalk."


I'm kind of surprised that Buffett went forward on the one project with Caesars given that another project with a different casino group (whom I've NEVER heard of) has emerged. Plus, it seems as though he pulled out the conversion of Grand in Biloxi. I read this before going to Vegas last month and was surprised when I saw work being completed on it. Has there been an opening date set?
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August 18th, 2011 at 5:22:47 AM permalink
RonC
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Jimmy Buffett has several things in the works. I think (but I don't know) that his main "investment" in each of the projects is the same...he is going to lend his "brand" to them and will profit from their use of the brand more than their use of his money. I doubt he ha a whole lot of actual capital in any of the three projects that I have heard about...

Louisiana--mentioned in Paco's comment above

Las Vegas--the subject of this thread

Biloxi--originally, they were building an operation connected to the Grand. This was left unfinished and is a HUGE eyesore with no plans for completion or demolition as far as I know. I don't think Buffett pulled out first; I think the property lost financial backing from the money folks that were involved...when that happened, it was not a viable plan. Buffett could likely finance a billion or so; he COULD have finished the project but I just don't think he is the "money" part of ANY of these ideas in any substantial way.

There was another project announced for Biloxi...in a different location. Here is a link I found to one story about it:

http://concerttour.org/buffetts-biloxi-casino-plans-back-on-track.php

Buffett is one savvy beach bum who has leveraged his brand and appears to have done it without investing a whole lot of his own cash in any one project.
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