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September 1st, 2010 at 7:59:38 AM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Nov 11, 2009
Threads: 218
Posts: 7293
I would like to propose a new rule for the forum:

No insults, no personal attacks.

All in favor say YES.
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September 1st, 2010 at 8:17:32 AM permalink
teddys
Member since: Nov 14, 2009
Threads: 100
Posts: 2729
That's a good rule that should be (and usually is) followed in real life, but is too often ignored on the Internet.

Unfortunately, I don't think people will follow that rule. I voted yes regardless.

Another good rule would be no grammar attacks.
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling
September 1st, 2010 at 8:25:57 AM permalink
Ibeatyouraces
Member since: Jan 12, 2010
Threads: 18
Posts: 919
I think alot of negativity comes from ignorance and lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. It's amazing how many times I get yelled at or called plain stupid when I double A9 vs a 4 in a super high count in BJ from the ploppies but yet they have no idea why I do it and most of them can't even follow BS correct as in hitting A7 vs 9-A. But yet if there weren't the uninformed, there would not be any AP's. I find its best to keep your mouth shut when someone appears to not know what they are doing or to help them, not berate them.
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September 1st, 2010 at 9:46:16 AM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Nov 11, 2009
Threads: 218
Posts: 7293
Quote: teddys
That's a good rule that should be (and usually is) followed in real life, but is too often ignored on the Internet.

Unfortunately, I don't think people will follow that rule. I voted yes regardless.


I don't think it will be followed, either. But at least it will be there. As it is now the rules say nothing about insults or personal attacks.
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September 1st, 2010 at 9:50:36 AM permalink
DorothyGale
Member since: Nov 23, 2009
Threads: 40
Posts: 615
Quote: Nareed
I would like to propose a new rule for the forum:

No insults, no personal attacks.

All in favor say YES.

Restrict free speech? Come on ... and who is going to be the judge and jury for whether a statement is an insult or personal attack? And what are the consequences? Should there be a committee of members who read all the posts and decide which category they fall and what penalty should be assessed?

You can call me any list of names you like, so under no circumstances do I want such limitations applied to what people say about me. I want people to be able to say nasty things about me. It's one aspect of how I personally like to interact.

The problems that arise once free speech is limited are immense.

--Dorothy
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September 1st, 2010 at 10:00:09 AM permalink
thlf
Member since: Feb 24, 2010
Threads: 16
Posts: 260
Quote: DorothyGale
Restrict free speech? Come on ... and who is going to be the judge and jury for whether a statement is an insult or personal attack? And what are the consequences? Should there be a committee of members who read all the posts and decide which category they fall and what penalty should be assessed?

You can call me any list of names you like, so under no circumstances do I want such limitations applied to what people say about me. I want people to be able to say nasty things about me. It's one aspect of how I personally like to interact.

The problems that arise once free speech is limited are immense.

--Dorothy


I couldn't have said it better myself you arrogant pig. Seriously if you are all a bunch of namby pamby's then go to LVA or somewhere else where free speech is limited. There are enough of those cheesy sites.
September 1st, 2010 at 10:00:16 AM permalink
Headlock
Member since: Feb 9, 2010
Threads: 14
Posts: 249
I interpreted Rule 4 to cover this. "Harrassing" posts may be flagged, and if flagged by enough users, will be removed. I would expect the user whose posts are being removed would eventually abandon the forum. I realize removing the post does not undo the hurt it may have inflicted.
September 1st, 2010 at 10:00:19 AM permalink
mkl654321
Member since: Aug 8, 2010
Threads: 65
Posts: 3412
Quote: DorothyGale
Restrict free speech? Come on ... and who is going to be the judge and jury for whether a statement is an insult or personal attack? And what are the consequences? Should there be a committee of members who read all the posts and decide which category they fall and what penalty should be assessed?

You can call me any list of names you like, so under no circumstances do I want such limitations applied to what people say about me. I want people to be able to say nasty things about me. It's one aspect of how I personally like to interact.

The problems that arise once free speech is limited are immense.

--Dorothy


I've found that people on internet forums--PARTICULARLY moderators--don't grasp the distinction between "that's a stupid thing to say" and "you're stupid". Smart people (as well as, of course, dumb people) say dumb things all the time. Pointing out the dumbness of such statements is not a personal attack, nor should it be sanctioned as such.

Certainly, the disagreement can be presented with varying degrees of civility, as in "I think you may have been in error", or, "You must have been sniffing glue when you wrote that". But social groups--as this one is--have to be self-policing, if at all. The last thing we all need is some kind of censor.

And solely because you enjoy it--God, Dorothy, you're a moron.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 1st, 2010 at 10:03:04 AM permalink
thlf
Member since: Feb 24, 2010
Threads: 16
Posts: 260
Since when is the Wiz no longer in charge of this website and this forum. Seem's like a bunch of others are trying to take over and make all of there own rules. The Wiz has been around long enough to know what rules should and shouldn't apply.
September 1st, 2010 at 10:24:02 AM permalink
DorothyGale
Member since: Nov 23, 2009
Threads: 40
Posts: 615
Quote: mkl654321
God, Dorothy, you're a moron.

Quote: thlf
I couldn't have said it better myself you arrogant pig.

You two both have thumbs, right? (I wonder if that's an insult -- maybe the censors should figure it out).

--Dorothy
Resident OZ-like entity ...
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