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December 14th, 2018 at 11:14:58 AM permalink
Here’s a thought. Nuke and be done with it. You all are being played like an accordion.
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December 14th, 2018 at 11:29:14 AM permalink
Don't just blame the bear.

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December 14th, 2018 at 4:50:38 PM permalink
Uh, re: the above "don't feed the bears:"

It looks to me like being eaten by the bear turned the little boy into a buxom gal.

Ah, the power of nature!
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December 15th, 2018 at 11:14:11 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Uh, re: the above "don't feed the bears:"

It looks to me like being eaten by the bear turned the little boy into a buxom gal.

Ah, the power of nature!



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December 15th, 2018 at 6:34:34 PM permalink
How in the world could a lad possibly cross his arms after being devoured by a bruin?

Smokey the bear may be a wise bear, but unlike a boa he doesn't eat his meal whole.

Heck, junior's arms, legs, torso and head would have been hacked, mangled and chewed to shreds.

So since we're talking fantasy, I prefer mine. :)
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December 15th, 2018 at 8:11:45 PM permalink
CrystalMath 'ð Days' for Personal insult.
cute
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December 15th, 2018 at 8:28:58 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

CrystalMath 'ð Days' for Personal insult.
cute



It's supposed to look like this number of days, which is how it appears to me...

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December 20th, 2018 at 1:07:39 PM permalink
I am a bit confused as to why the wiz suspended Boz for insult in the Nathan's Corner thread.

Was it the use of the words "Mother Teresa," "underhanded" or "bitter?"

I've seen people get away with saying worse than that.
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December 20th, 2018 at 1:14:52 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I am a bit confused as to why the wiz suspended Boz for insult in the Nathan's Corner thread.

Was it the use of the words "Mother Teresa," "underhanded" or "bitter?"

I've seen people get away with saying worse than that.



Quote: Boz

Can someone share with Billy I take my shots not caring if he sees them or not. He knows how I feel about him and people who know me, know it’s not an act. I totally disagree with him on almost everything from his politics of dependence to his fake persona. His hatred of others who he doesn’t agree with shows his true colors.

What’s sad is how he lives off others hard work and presents himself as better than others.

He’s living proof we should always Thank Vets for their service, but some didnt learn anything from the opportunities it presented them.

Now Bill, go back to ignoring me and go enjoy that free Burger, you certainly earned it.


This post was much more of a personal insult IMO. I have a feeling it was a combination of both, and wiz just quoted the first.
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December 20th, 2018 at 2:09:33 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I am a bit confused as to why the wiz suspended Boz for insult in the Nathan's Corner thread.

Was it the use of the words "Mother Teresa," "underhanded" or "bitter?"

I've seen people get away with saying worse than that.




I’d be pretty angry if anyone called me mother Teresa
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December 20th, 2018 at 2:18:21 PM permalink
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I’d be pretty angry if anyone called me mother Teresa



I strive to be part Francis of Assisi, part Bill Ayers, with a sprinkling of Robin Hood and Joe McDonald tossed in.
I can live with the Mother Theresa comparison.
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December 20th, 2018 at 3:07:51 PM permalink
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I’d be pretty angry if anyone called me mother Teresa



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December 20th, 2018 at 3:44:15 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I am a bit confused as to why the wiz suspended Boz for insult in the Nathan's Corner thread.

Was it the use of the words "Mother Teresa," "underhanded" or "bitter?"

I've seen people get away with saying worse than that.



It was the whole thing, combined with other posts that were in the grey area. I admit it was a borderline case, but I'd have felt insulted if he made the post in question about me.

If anyone feels other posts are worse, they are welcome to make an official complaint.
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December 20th, 2018 at 4:50:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

It was the whole thing, combined with other posts that were in the grey area. I admit it was a borderline case, but I'd have felt insulted if he made the post in question about me.

If anyone feels other posts are worse, they are welcome to make an official complaint.



do the complaints get filed in that circular storage container. ;-)
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December 21st, 2018 at 11:09:15 PM permalink
Perhaps some positive reinforcement would help, a carrot to balance out the stick. The person getting the most "thanks" in a set period of time gets recognized as "Gambler of the Week/Month/Year" etc. Winners would get their own thread to answer questions from other users. I haven't been here long but I've seen a few users who consistently produce quality content.
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December 21st, 2018 at 11:30:14 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

The person getting the most "thanks" in a set period of time gets recognized as "Gambler of the Week/Month/Year" etc. Winners would get their own thread to answer questions from other users.



That sounds like more of a punishment to me!
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December 22nd, 2018 at 12:56:06 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Perhaps some positive reinforcement would help, a carrot to balance out the stick. The person getting the most "thanks" in a set period of time gets recognized as "Gambler of the Week/Month/Year" etc. Winners would get their own thread to answer questions from other users. I haven't been here long but I've seen a few users who consistently produce quality content.



A person that is near the top in most "quality content" ever imo (CrystalMath) is currently serving a 7 day suspension for finally speaking out against someone's attitude that I think has needed to be challenged ever since I began to read his posts. I'm totally willing to serve out the remainder of CM's suspension.

I just hope that the terribly unfair martingale Wizard gave him doesn't make him stop posting completely. He's already become like me and mostly stopped posting. This incident would have made me stop posting completely. That's for sure.

PS: Our current President might take the comment that CM got suspended 7 days for as a compliment, not an insult!
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December 22nd, 2018 at 2:23:52 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

A person that is near the top in most "quality content" ever imo (CrystalMath) is currently serving a 7 day suspension for finally speaking out against someone's attitude that I think has needed to be challenged ever since I began to read his posts.


It is always the people who make high quality contributions that get fed up with endless low quality nitpicking, goading and meaningless drivel that they have to wade through.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 4:07:01 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

A person that is near the top in most "quality content" ever imo (CrystalMath) is currently serving a 7 day suspension for finally speaking out against someone's attitude that I think has needed to be challenged ever since I began to read his posts. I'm totally willing to serve out the remainder of CM's suspension.

I just hope that the terribly unfair martingale Wizard gave him doesn't make him stop posting completely. He's already become like me and mostly stopped posting. This incident would have made me stop posting completely. That's for sure.

PS: Our current President might take the comment that CM got suspended 7 days for as a compliment, not an insult!



I think in our current set of rules a suspension was warranted. However I think it of taking 1 for the team. I do hope he comes back.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I think in our current set of rules a suspension was warranted. However I think it of taking 1 for the team. I do hope he comes back.



Technically yes. And the Wizard does like to follow the rules strictly.

I certainly wouldn't have martingaled it. It's a mild insult at the very most.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 3:07:04 PM permalink
Makes you wonder whether any criticism of MB is "off limits."

Compare it to the flames people hurl at Nathan, with seeming impunity.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 11:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Makes you wonder whether any criticism of MB is "off limits."

Compare it to the flames people hurl at Nathan, with seeming impunity.



It’s pretty clear there are a chosen few, MB among them, whom you have to walk on eggshells around. The interpretation of the insult rule is largely dependent on the member being insulted
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December 23rd, 2018 at 12:43:27 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

The interpretation of the insult rule is largely dependent on the member being insulted

Or perhaps by the number of nits the Greeninkers have had to pick while wading thru the tons of drivel and getting pissed off by it. Greeninkers are human and they are unpaid volunteers.
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December 23rd, 2018 at 1:51:17 AM permalink
I never expected to see CrystalMath suspended. His posts were very informative and never insulted a single person.
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December 23rd, 2018 at 2:02:28 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

It’s pretty clear there are a chosen few, MB among them, whom you have to walk on eggshells around. The interpretation of the insult rule is largely dependent on the member being insulted

I have the list, Michaelbluejay isn't untouchable, he isn't on it.
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December 30th, 2018 at 5:42:39 AM permalink
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I never expected to see CrystalMath suspended. His posts were very informative and never insulted a single person.


I dont know CrystalMath's beef with BlueJay but Does this apply?

1)

2)
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December 30th, 2018 at 6:07:11 AM permalink
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I never expected to see CrystalMath suspended. His posts were very informative and never insulted a single person.



It obviously isn't his first trip to the cornfield if he got martingaled.
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December 30th, 2018 at 6:10:36 AM permalink
Can anyone give a direct link to the actual Suspension List? I searched for Suspension List in the Search bar but kept getting links for this thread, not the actual Suspension List. :/
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December 30th, 2018 at 6:57:40 AM permalink
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It obviously isn't his first trip to the cornfield if he got martingaled.

It was back to back. His first post back after first suspension got him his second suspension.
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December 30th, 2018 at 7:07:48 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Can anyone give a direct link to the actual Suspension List? I searched for Suspension List in the Search bar but kept getting links for this thread, not the actual Suspension List. :/


https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
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January 10th, 2019 at 11:02:15 AM permalink
Unfortunately, a recent post has forced us admins to confront the issue of "hate speech." It is to the forum's credit we've gone as far as we have without needing a rule against it. We have discussed wording behind the scenes and decided on something short and general. That said, our new 19th rule, which is number 18, because we like to keep the Nuclear Option last, reads as follows:

Quote: Rule 18

While we try to promote free speech as much as we can, racial slurs, vulgar terminology or advocating violence against any person or group of people are not welcome.



We thank you in advance for keeping this rule under advisement.

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January 10th, 2019 at 11:03:49 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Unfortunately, a recent post has forced us admins to confront the issue of "hate speech." It is to the forum's credit we've gone as far as we have without needing a rule against it. We have discussed wording behind the scenes and decided on something short and general. That said, our new 19th rule, which is number 18, because we like to keep the Nuclear Option last, reads as follows:



We thank you in advance for keeping this rule under advisement.

Forum Rules.



I didn’t realize the mathlete post rose to that level. :-P
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January 10th, 2019 at 12:05:26 PM permalink
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I didn’t realize the mathlete post rose to that level. :-P

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January 10th, 2019 at 12:17:41 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: Wizard

Unfortunately, a recent post has forced us admins to confront the issue of "hate speech." It is to the forum's credit we've gone as far as we have without needing a rule against it. We have discussed wording behind the scenes and decided on something short and general. That said, our new 19th rule, which is number 18, because we like to keep the Nuclear Option last, reads as follows:



We thank you in advance for keeping this rule under advisement.

Forum Rules.



I didn’t realize the mathlete post rose to that level. :-P



It didn't. I reserve the right to use the terms mathlete and Math Guys as respectful and complimentary terms. :)
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January 10th, 2019 at 12:23:52 PM permalink
Thinking back to my high school days, I'd have to say the mathletes have had more success than the athletes. By sheer coincidence, I'd say the four or five most successful people I know were both.
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January 10th, 2019 at 12:25:45 PM permalink
Was there a thread that brought this up? Have I missed something?
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January 10th, 2019 at 12:31:50 PM permalink
The Trump thread, where else?
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January 10th, 2019 at 12:40:20 PM permalink
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The Trump thread, where else?



I'd prefer we not draw attention to it again.
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January 10th, 2019 at 1:32:33 PM permalink
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Was there a thread that brought this up? Have I missed something?


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Boz used a horrible term to describe Mexicans in the political thread



Thanks for doing exactly what the Wizard didn’t want.
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January 13th, 2019 at 2:36:57 PM permalink
I wonder why Nared was banned. All of his posts seemed normal and I actually did my homework this time and went to The Actual Suspension List before asking this question, but Nared wasn't on it when I checked. I did realize that Nared is only one letter away from another Poster, Nareed, and I checked to see if Nared was a sock puppet of Nareed. He isn't, because Nareed is listed as a regular Member.
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January 13th, 2019 at 3:17:30 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I wonder why Nared was banned. All of his posts seemed normal and I actually did my homework this time and went to The Actual Suspension List before asking this question, but Nared wasn't on it when I checked. I did realize that Nared is only one letter away from another Poster, Nareed, and I checked to see if Nared was a sock puppet of Nareed. He isn't, because Nareed is listed as a regular Member.

I recognised that he/she had characteristics of a previously nuked member, but it was not me that nuked Nared.
The suspension list is a moderator resource that happens to be visible to members. Nuked members and Socks rarely get added to the list.
I've asked others for clarification. Watch this space.
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January 13th, 2019 at 5:01:59 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

I recognised that he/she had characteristics of a previously nuked member, but it was not me that nuked Nared.
The suspension list is a moderator resource that happens to be visible to members. Nuked members and Socks rarely get added to the list.
I've asked others for clarification. Watch this space.



Wouldn't it make sense to have a Nuked/Sock Puppet List along with The Suspension List?:/
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January 13th, 2019 at 5:15:16 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Wouldn't it make sense to have a Nuked/Sock Puppet List along with The Suspension List?:/



............what do you think the suspension list is???
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January 13th, 2019 at 5:19:42 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

............what do you think the suspension list is???



Read OnceDear’s post again . . .
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January 13th, 2019 at 5:29:33 PM permalink
Nared was a sock of a previously banned member, who was a sock of a previously banned member, going back to at least 2012. No relation to Nareed.
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January 13th, 2019 at 5:53:40 PM permalink
While Nareed is serving a long suspension at DT, she is welcome to post here. I think she is refraining as a protest.
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January 13th, 2019 at 6:13:38 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

While Nareed is serving a long suspension at DT, she is welcome to post here. I think she is refraining as a protest.



Nareed is a SHE? Color me surprised. O.O
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January 13th, 2019 at 6:53:38 PM permalink
I believe that the user name "Nareed" is taken from a science fiction short story (or perhaps novel) written by the member of our forum who uses that I.D. Our Nareed has attended a number of Spring Fling festivities (though not in several years), and she is included in the photos that have been published. She has not always been well received by all members, but I wish she would come to another of our gatherings.
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January 13th, 2019 at 6:53:45 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Nareed is a SHE? Color me surprised. O.O



That’s rich.
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