Zuga
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May 13th, 2017 at 3:14:16 AM permalink
Hi Wov'ers,

If you wish to opt out from all future newsletters please post at this thread and we will remove you from the mailing list.

To discuss the subject please go to OP http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/announcements/28819-wov-newsletter/

cheers
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prozema
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May 13th, 2017 at 5:28:02 AM permalink
So I'm confused. How did you get everyone's email addresseses in the first place?
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CBG81
May 13th, 2017 at 7:33:29 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

So I'm confused. How did you get everyone's email addresseses in the first place?



When any member, active or not, first signs up, they provide an email that is used to validate the account, and if you enable them, the ability to be notified about any PM's you are sent, or threads you've subscribed to. So there's an email on file for you.

When Josh and Zuga bought the site, they got all the data. What they do with them is up to them, and may well (and fairly, IMO) be different than what Mike did.
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May 13th, 2017 at 7:50:10 AM permalink
By law you need to take opt out requests by email replies to the address you send the newsletter, or a single opt out link. And those instructions need to be included with the newsletter email.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business
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May 13th, 2017 at 8:01:04 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

By law you need to take opt out requests by email replies to the address you send the newsletter, or a single opt out link. And those instructions need to be included with the newsletter email.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business



Silly rabbit, your talking about American laws, not the rest of the world. I don't see the Feds getting involved like Black Friday in the Poker Workd over a newsletter.
gamerfreak
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May 13th, 2017 at 8:29:13 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Silly rabbit, your talking about American laws, not the rest of the world. I don't see the Feds getting involved like Black Friday in the Poker Workd over a newsletter.


Well yea, but to be honest I personally don't care what rules are followed or what emails sent. The sender should, though. Gmail will start sorting them into the spam folder if they don't have a mailing address and opt out link, especially with gambling keywords. And at that point half your list is lost.
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May 13th, 2017 at 9:05:55 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

By law you need to take opt out requests by email replies to the address you send the newsletter, or a single opt out link. And those instructions need to be included with the newsletter email.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business

Check the other thread, and you'll see that at least one member just about lost his shit over this subject. And refused to use normal opt out procedures. That's why this thread was created.
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May 13th, 2017 at 9:39:04 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Check the other thread, and you'll see that at least one member just about lost his shit over this subject. And refused to use normal opt out procedures. That's why this thread was created.


Thanks was not aware
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May 13th, 2017 at 10:24:37 AM permalink
Let's be absolutely clear here. According to the website forum stats, this site has 13892 forum members. The purpose of the newsletter is not to offer a convenient new feature for existing members. It's sole purpose is to try and reclaim members who are no longer here so that the owners can get clicks on their casino ads and hopefully some signups. A database of close to 14k email addresses of people who are interested in gambling is a huge part of the value in purchasing this site.

So, the owners spammed 13,892 people with their "newsletter" and now are being so kind as to offer the 100 or so people who will view this thread the opportunity to opt-out in person. Really?! Maybe there are 800 active members (being generous) who don't care about being spammed. That means 13,000 unsolicited emails sent to people who aren't active here. The very definition of spam.

The existence of this token thread says everything about the bottom line integrity of the site owners in a nutshell.

That anyone here would defend such behavior is shameful.
prozema
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May 13th, 2017 at 10:35:10 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Well yea, but to be honest I personally don't care what rules are followed or what emails sent. The sender should, though. Gmail will start sorting them into the spam folder if they don't have a mailing address and opt out link, especially with gambling keywords. And at that point half your list is lost.



My Gmail defaulted the messages as spam.

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