![]() | Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard. Here are my reasons why and my promise of support. |
Video Poker Strategy Calculator
| January 11th, 2012 at 9:03:42 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 312 Posts: 6752 | I'd proud to announce the first free video poker strategy calculator, created by our own JB. As far as I know, before now only three people have created automated video poker strategy makers: 1. TomSki -- creator of Video Poker Strategy Master software. 2. ? -- Whoever helped with Frugal Video Poker. 3. ? -- Whoever helped with Video Poker for Winners. Usually video poker strategies have to be created by hand with a lot of trial and error. It is not easy getting a computer to concisely create a strategy based on the 2.6 million possible starting hands. It is like the Mount Everest of video poker programming. So, my congratulations to JB for this accomplishment. So, video poker players, please give it a test drive and let us know what you think. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| January 12th, 2012 at 12:02:32 PM permalink | |
| CrystalMath Member since: May 10, 2011 Threads: 3 Posts: 476 | I like it, a lot. I've used the strategy guides at VPgenius, but JB's calculator looks more thorough. I made a (much simpler and less accurate) strategy calculator for one project, but mine was useful to me because I was making hundreds of paytable adjustments to find a decent strategy for a very complex game. I heart Crystal Math. |
| January 12th, 2012 at 12:28:06 PM permalink | |
| Ayecarumba Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 113 Posts: 2032 | Very cool. I assume JB considered defaulting the paytable to single coin instead of 5 coins. I can understand why 5 coins was set as the default, but it is unusual for me to see and adjust the table X5, especially when the machines are typically referred to with their single coin payouts (e.g., "9/6 JoB"). At the end of the day, it is better for it to default to 5 coin. |
| January 12th, 2012 at 12:38:39 PM permalink | |
| CrystalMath Member since: May 10, 2011 Threads: 3 Posts: 476 |
The ones I tried were defaulted to 5 coins. I heart Crystal Math. |
| January 12th, 2012 at 9:50:29 PM permalink | |
| fivespot Member since: Jul 12, 2010 Threads: 1 Posts: 45 | This isn't the first free VP strategy calculator - see http://wolfvideopoker.com/FVP.htm - nor is it the first free online VP strategy calculator - see http://www.vpgenius.com/ - but it is good stuff. I find the interface rather more convenient than vpgenius, especially on my phone. I'm sure I'll give it a lot of use. Thanks for another excellent tool. |
| January 12th, 2012 at 10:24:23 PM permalink | |
| JB Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 309 Posts: 902 | I'm not sure if many people know this or not, but I am the person who created vpgenius.com. (In fact, that's how the Wizard found me.) I sold it shortly after I finished it though, and am no longer associated with it. However, the strategies created by vpgenius.com are not entirely accurate: they are created by identifying the types of plays made, and then sorting the plays by their expected value. This is a fast method of creating a strategy, but not entirely accurate (especially with lower-valued plays). The strategies generated by the new calculator on WizardOfOdds.com use the correct (albeit slower) method, which is to compare each line against all other lines to figure out where it belongs in the list. It is correct for some lines to appear higher on the list than others even though they have a lower EV. The classic example is King vs. Suited King-Ten in 9/6 Jacks or Better: a King by itself has a higher EV than Suited King-Ten, yet Suited King-Ten is typically the better play. The reason why the EV for a King is higher is because its EV is derived only from hands where the King by itself was the better play. The correct method to compare two plays (such as King vs. Suited King-Ten) is to only look at hands where the best play is one of the two plays being compared; only then can you see that the EV for a King is lower than the EV for Suited King-Ten among hands where the best play is one of those two plays. However, even after you've done that, there is still a choice to make when assembling the strategy list: do you arrange the plays in the way that yields the highest overall return (when exceptions are ignored), or do you arrange them in the way that produces the fewest exceptions? For this calculator, I chose to arrange them in the way that produces the highest return (when exceptions are ignored). |
| January 13th, 2012 at 9:55:53 AM permalink | |
| teddys Member since: Nov 14, 2009 Threads: 100 Posts: 2721 | I did not know this. Major props. One of my favorite gambling sites on the web, besides the Wizard's. Very happy to hear you were behind it. "If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling |
| January 13th, 2012 at 10:06:50 AM permalink | |
| CrystalMath Member since: May 10, 2011 Threads: 3 Posts: 476 | I agree with teddy. I had no idea you were behind vpgenius.com, but that explains why it's so useful. I heart Crystal Math. |
| January 13th, 2012 at 3:10:46 PM permalink | |
| fivespot Member since: Jul 12, 2010 Threads: 1 Posts: 45 | Oh! Awesome. Thanks for your work, sir; I've found it very useful, and I appreciate it greatly. |
| January 28th, 2012 at 7:29:43 PM permalink | |
| SONBP2 Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 58 Posts: 206 | At Sante Fe Station, on a machine labled over 100% payback I found the following pay table for Loose Deuces. Paytable Natural Royal Flush 250 4000 (1 coin and 5 coin respectively) Four Deuces 500 2500 Wild Royal Flush 25 125 Five of a Kind 15 75 Straight Flush 8 40 Four of a Kind 4 20 Full House 3 15 Flush 2 10 Straight 2 10 Three of a Kind 1 5 Using the new Video Poker Strategy Calculator on WizardofOdds.com, I put in the 5 coin amount and the Total Return amount was 5.007, which I don't think is correct. So I put in the 1 coin in value and the Total Return amount was .9895. Therefore, my question is, is this game really a 100% payback game? |
![]() | Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard. Here are my reasons why and my promise of support. |
