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| June 8th, 2011 at 11:45:32 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | Thanks Math. They looked like class III to me, I have played class II before at a Seminole casino so I kind of know what they look like. Like I said they also allowed you $5 a draw per play. My question would be do they have to recommend optimal strategy play or are they allowed to dispense less than optimal advice? |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:54:33 AM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5699 | Who decides what "Optimal Strategy" is? And, assuming the strategy suggested really is "optimal", ask yourself "Why". I'd bet that if they are holding cards based on even reasonable strategy, then players are playing at a higher level than if they had to figure it out for themselves. That's gotta cost them something. Check out the pay table, and find out if they're really Class III. Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood? |
| June 8th, 2011 at 12:00:26 PM permalink | |
| buzzpaff Member since: Mar 8, 2011 Threads: 82 Posts: 2835 | Anything they might lose should be made up by more hands player per hour ?? Buzz Paff |
| June 8th, 2011 at 12:04:32 PM permalink | |
| MathExtremist Member since: Aug 31, 2010 Threads: 46 Posts: 2517 |
Optimal has only one meaning here -- which one of the 32 possible hold configurations yields the highest return for that hand. The question is whether that strategy is what the auto-hold uses. Typically games with auto-holds have lower paytables to compensate. An 8/5 JoB game with optimal auto-hold can be worth less to a casino than a 9/6 JoB game without one. It all depends on how good the players are. "In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563 |
| June 8th, 2011 at 12:13:01 PM permalink | |
| Doc Member since: Feb 27, 2010 Threads: 21 Posts: 2807 |
Typo, or an ingenious extra cut for the house? Use up $6.25 in credits on each $5 draw! ;-) |
| June 8th, 2011 at 12:20:19 PM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | Sorry Doc its a good thing I keep the companies books a little straighter! :) |
| June 8th, 2011 at 12:48:20 PM permalink | |
| TIMSPEED Member since: Aug 11, 2010 Threads: 39 Posts: 552 | It's just an auto-hold feature. One of the local indian casino's has this enabled on a 9/6 JoB game...I can use it to play 1000 hph easily. They say casino's aren't built on winners...
No...they're built on ignorance. |
| June 8th, 2011 at 1:31:25 PM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5699 | So now Video Poker players can be the mindless button-pushers that slot players are. Brilliant. Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood? |
| June 8th, 2011 at 1:35:14 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Nov 11, 2009 Threads: 218 Posts: 7262 | I've a crummy casino game in my cellphone that has some VP variants. It does hold cards automatically. You can change them, but can't turn the feature off. A common mistake it makes is on DW if you're dealt two deuces and trash, it will hold the deuces and the high card. That's wrong strategy. BTW it also has a lousy pay table... This space is closed for remodeling |
| June 8th, 2011 at 1:49:48 PM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5699 | Wait a sec... Are you complaining about the pay table on your cell phone game? Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
But how much does it cost to knock on wood? |
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