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VP Machine Plays Itslef
| June 8th, 2011 at 10:57:40 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | I was just at the Charlestown, WV casino playing VP. Both the FPDW and the JoB VP machines were making the plays for me! I would deal, and I had my cheat sheet with me, and the machine would automatically hold the correct or proper cards for me automatically. All I had to do was repress the deal button for my draw. I was a bit skeptical and little and mistrusting so I only played for about 10 minutes before going to Pai Gow Poker. It was like hitting the advice button on the Wizard's practice VP machine. Has anyone else ever encountered this and is the machine making legitimate decisions for the player or is it a mechanism to fool the player into playing poorly? |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:08:38 AM permalink | |
| Ayecarumba Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 113 Posts: 2032 | I've never seen this. Is it a feature you can turn off and on? |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:16:45 AM permalink | |
| teddys Member since: Nov 14, 2009 Threads: 100 Posts: 2721 | Are they Class II machines? I've seen it before. Usually, but not always, makes the correct play. "If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:18:43 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | I looked for a different switch but the machine had all the "regular" functions of a VP machine. It did let you change their recommended hold and draw cards. For example, if they had you holding to an inside straight and you wanted to discard everything, you could manually, on a hand by hand basis, change your draw and hold cards each time. |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:20:20 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | No Charlestown has all the state of the art gaming. in fact they have gotten so busy, they are building a second hotel on premises and have opened a 4 star lavish steakhouse. |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:27:36 AM permalink | |
| s2dbaker Member since: Jun 10, 2010 Threads: 34 Posts: 1212 | dingdingding! Try throwing away a three of a kind. Betcha a dollar that the machine deals you another or better. |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:38:45 AM permalink | |
| miplet Member since: Dec 1, 2009 Threads: 3 Posts: 550 | From http://www.americancasinoguide.com/slot-machine-payback-statistics.html
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| June 8th, 2011 at 11:38:55 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | To be honest I did not ask. Anything is possible. I know I have never seen a machine(s) like that before. |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:40:30 AM permalink | |
| MathExtremist Member since: Aug 31, 2010 Threads: 46 Posts: 2517 | West Virginia allows Class III games at racetracks under provisions of the WV Lottery. Same with the live table games -- they're technically sponsored by the state lottery. Some jurisdictions require that VP games provide an auto-hold feature. That's all this is. It's not a class II game (remember, that's only relevant on tribal land) nor is it a central-determinant electronic pull-tab system like New York. It's an actual VP game, just like Vegas. I tried to find any regulations on whether the auto-hold feature must hold optimally, but I couldn't in the few minutes I spent on the Internet. Contacting the WV Lottery might help, or perhaps the racetrack operator. WV Lottery "In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563 |
| June 8th, 2011 at 11:41:59 AM permalink | |
| hook3670 Member since: May 17, 2011 Threads: 19 Posts: 208 | Thanks miplet. The only thing I will say is they have completely rewritten some or all of their laws since the inception of a large number of table games late last year. The max play on my machine was 25 credits at .25 for $5 dollars a draw, which i was playing. Also there were other $1 VP machines that had up to a 5 max bet. |
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