LVWin
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February 12th, 2016 at 8:54:55 AM permalink
The Wizard shows that for 9/6 DDB Quick Quads, Four 2-4 + A-4 pays 200 and Four aces + 5-K pays 200. I though the pay should be 160 for each not 200?

Also, does anyone know of software that includes DDB QQ?


Thanks.
sabre
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February 12th, 2016 at 12:40:58 PM permalink
In DDB QQ, those paylines jump to 1000 from 800 with the 6th coin bet.
LVWin
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February 12th, 2016 at 12:46:48 PM permalink
Ok, I did not state my question clearly.

Standard DDB 9/6 ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,160,160,400,50,800) has a total return of 98.98%

My question is if the pay schedule is the same but now you add quick quads (5-10), what is the total return?

Dancer says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%
The Wizard says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,200,200,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%

I’m confused! Is there a greater return for DDB QQ compared DDB?
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February 12th, 2016 at 12:51:19 PM permalink
So you have the same pay table... you're adding a feature, and confused as to why the payback percentage would go up?
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February 12th, 2016 at 3:23:44 PM permalink
Quote: LVWin

Ok, I did not state my question clearly.

Standard DDB 9/6 ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,160,160,400,50,800) has a total return of 98.98%

My question is if the pay schedule is the same but now you add quick quads (5-10), what is the total return?

Dancer says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%
The Wizard says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,200,200,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%

I’m confused! Is there a greater return for DDB QQ compared DDB?



You are also paying for the QQ with the extra coin. Variance will be greater too.
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February 12th, 2016 at 4:07:03 PM permalink
Quote: LVWin

Ok, I did not state my question clearly.

Standard DDB 9/6 ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,160,160,400,50,800) has a total return of 98.98%

My question is if the pay schedule is the same but now you add quick quads (5-10), what is the total return?

Dancer says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%
The Wizard says DDB 9/6 QQ ( 1,1,3,4,6,9,50,80,200,200,400,50,800) has a total return of 99.65%

I’m confused! Is there a greater return for DDB QQ compared DDB?



Yes, there is a greater return. The 6th coin adds value to some of the 4OAK as well as activating the QQ feature, and the QQ feature is easier to hit (or at least gives you more ways to hit) some of your quads.

I love QQ, btw. I encourage you to use the Wizard's strategy guide to print out optimal play, because it varies quite a bit from the regular DDB, learn it, and enjoy! Much more fun than regular DDB.
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February 12th, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM permalink
Paybacks of quads had to be adjusted to make 9/6 DDB with Quick Quads 99.65%. The 6th coin is a little too costly for the QQ feature in DDB, so quad payouts had to be inflated to make it a smart bet.

Quads 5-K: 50 -> 52
Quads 2-4: 80 -> 80
Quads 2-4 w/k: 160 -> 200
Aces: 160 -> 200
Aces w/k: 400 -> 400

If you used the normal DDB payouts, 9/6 DDB QQ would only pay back 97.71%.

This is also why you don't see bonus deluxe for quick quads. If you paid every quad 400 coins, then 6/5 would pay 103.07%.
LVWin
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March 1st, 2016 at 10:10:52 AM permalink
Do you know if the payout (9/6 DDB with Quick Quads 99.65%) you listed above is what is available in the High Limits area at the MGM LV Grand?
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