4OaK Bribery
I have a strictly hypothetical question: With 4OaK Bonus coupons, would it be illegal to try to bribe the bartender into accepting a Wild 4OaK on DW?
The limit for one place is $2 denomination, and $1 for the other. If it is not illegal, I was considering bribes of $50 and $25, respectively.
Quote: Mission146Greetings!
I have a strictly hypothetical question: With 4OaK Bonus coupons, would it be illegal to try to bribe the bartender into accepting a Wild 4OaK on DW?
The limit for one place is $2 denomination, and $1 for the other. If it is not illegal, I was considering bribes of $50 and $25, respectively.
Hypothetically speaking, what the heck are you asking? lol...guess I just don't speak the language yet.
Quote: Mission146Greetings!
I have a strictly hypothetical question: With 4OaK Bonus coupons, would it be illegal to try to bribe the bartender into accepting a Wild 4OaK on DW?
The limit for one place is $2 denomination, and $1 for the other. If it is not illegal, I was considering bribes of $50 and $25, respectively.
I'm guessing it would be. These coupons must be approved by gaming in some way, right?
Quote: beachbumbabsHypothetically speaking, what the heck are you asking? lol...guess I just don't speak the language yet.
Okay, cutting through the verbiage, if you get a NATURAL 4OaK you effectively get $200 Free Play at one location, and $100 at the other. This presents a slight advantage for many VP games that would otherwise be -ER. However, if you could play Deuces Wild and have a Wild or Natural 4OaK count, even if you were only getting just under 75%, (The ER of the Free Play is less than 100%, and you are tipping 25% of Face Value) then the edge would be tremendous.
By "tipping," I mean, bribing, so am wondering if that is legal.
Quote: FinsRuleI'm guessing it would be. These coupons must be approved by gaming in some way, right?
I'd be surprised, Gaming would then also have to be involved in approving every Free Play offer, would they not?
Quote: Mission146I'd be surprised, Gaming would then also have to be involved in approving every Free Play offer, would they not?
Let's say the coupon was "turn any 22 in blackjack into an auto win". You get a 23, and bribe the dealer to let it count. I believe it would be considered defrauding the casino and therefore illegal. If the coupon has a rule on it, and it's broken, I think it's illegal. I could definitely be wrong...
Also, although you asking may not be a crime, if the bartender does it you then have a possible conspiracy to cheat a gaming establishment. That is a felony in Nevada.
Quote: Mission146It's not worth the bartender getting in serious trouble, then, even if I'm not legally doing anything wrong.
You may have misunderstood. You could both be charged with the conspiracy felony. Two people conspiring together to cheat the gaming establishment is definitely a crime in Nevada.
Quote: DRichYou may have misunderstood. You could both be charged with the conspiracy felony. Two people conspiring together to cheat the gaming establishment is definitely a crime in Nevada.
That's what I was trying to say in my last post, but failed.
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That's crazy. Some types of bribery are certainly legal. Probably not this one though.
I have absolutely bribed my way into "full" restaurants and night clubs. Nothing illegal there.
Should have realized this was a gambling website right? :)
mission I'm shocked, I don't even know what to say.Quote: Mission146Greetings!
I have a strictly hypothetical question: With 4OaK Bonus coupons, would it be illegal to try to bribe the bartender into accepting a Wild 4OaK on DW?
The limit for one place is $2 denomination, and $1 for the other. If it is not illegal, I was considering bribes of $50 and $25, respectively.
OK i lied, Why would you bring up the names of the actual place even if it was not illegal? How can you not know this is probably illegal in some form?key word BRIBEY. I would have to think someone from this message board has been there, or knows someone who works there, or some dark side person will call them. Now the next time someone thinks about offering a good coupon they may re-think doing so just thinking this may happen.
If nothing else its would be theft and conspiracy.
Are you off work tonight? Drinking perhaps?
Quote: AxelWolf
OK i lied, Why would you bring up the names of the actual place even if it was not illegal? How can you not know this is probably illegal in some form?key word BRIBEY. I would have to think someone from this message board has been there, or knows someone who works there, or some dark side person will call them. Now the next time someone thinks about offering a good coupon they may re-think doing so just thinking this may happen.
Okay, I have deleted any mention of the source of the offer or of the specific location at which this offer could be used from the entire thread. Why would I have any reason to think this was illegal, the verbiage of anything having to do with Free Play is, "Free Play offers have no cash value," okay, so if it has no cash value, what would you be taking unlawfully? How does that work in Court? "You, Mission146, are charged with conspiracy to defraud a business of nothing!"
These things also say, "Management reserves the right to change this offer at anytime with or without notice," so you could argue that the bartender allowing Wild 4OaK's to count is simply one way that management could change the offer.
Finally, bribery is not necessarily illegal, which is why I asked. I don't know why people equate the two words, I could get into any number of examples where bribery is legal. The "$20 trick," at hotels? Bribery.
