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July 11th, 2017 at 10:35:03 AM permalink
Save a hand or two for the rest of us, Monet! Seriously, though, you're on a killer tear!
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July 11th, 2017 at 1:39:52 PM permalink
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July 11th, 2017 at 2:03:23 PM permalink
Monet0412,

I agree with you, I only play a fraction of what you do and I've seen a bunch of stuff, as well. I've gotten a Royal on a complete throwaway on UX vulturing and I basically only play UX if I am vulturing,..mostly. The only exception is if I vulture a machine and I am close on how many points I need for a day (within five points, or $25 coin-in) then I will just finish on UX. Another exception is if I find X's on three-play or five-play nickels, then I just tend to max bet on that until I end up with zero multipliers for the following hand. Any higher denom is a straight vulture.

Anyway, I've been dealt quads eight times this year and there's no way I have 33k+ hands in on UX or anything near that. I'm WAY over expectation. I don't know where I am in relation to expectation all games considered because 95%+ of my VP comes on 98.91% Deuces Wild...so obviously, I don't even pay any attention whatsoever to dealt quads unless they are deuces. I probably don't even notice them.

It basically just comes down to stuff happens. Sometimes, it happens the other way, and a select few AP's (and many non-AP's) will read more into it than what's actually there.
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July 11th, 2017 at 6:11:03 PM permalink
Quote: monet


You also forgot to say that you don't have the guts to play 100 play at 25cent level for 125 dollars a spin lol... or maybe you left that out because you do have the stomach to fade that action!! :)



I think the most I can handle is $10/spin. The multiplay is more promising. I play deuces mainly as I like the variance and the strategy is simple to remember. DDB I like as well, but Triple Double is too much. I don't mind $3.75 triple or $6.25 five line but I have to have a bankroll.
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July 11th, 2017 at 7:56:47 PM permalink
Deleted... outclassed by WoN once again!
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July 11th, 2017 at 8:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: monet0412

Deleted... I talk too much



I kind of figured, that's why I didn't quote you at all in my reply. ;).
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July 12th, 2017 at 7:09:55 AM permalink
https://imgur.com/gallery/yeiq0


Once and a while it's a fun game
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July 12th, 2017 at 7:24:49 AM permalink
You could certainly draw worse than that!
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July 12th, 2017 at 7:34:23 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Once and a while it's a fun game



I don't even have the stomach for 1 cent Ultimate X... I can't imagine dollars at 100 a spin playing Two for One... Nice Hit... Your at a level I can't even understand or obtain. This is clearly above the stratosphere and I don't mean the place that use to be Vegas World in Naked City Las Vegas!! I know someone who plays Halves on UX DDB and his swings are on a roller coaster that I am not tall enough to ride. IMHO it has ruined his game because he has a tough time going back to regular old boring VP or Slot games. As always you are the master and it is impressive that you play that game non stop and crush. I guess those games aren't rigged after all :)
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July 12th, 2017 at 8:11:01 AM permalink
Quote: monet0412

I don't even have the stomach for 1 cent Ultimate X... I can't imagine dollars at 100 a spin playing Two for One... Nice Hit... Your at a level I can't even understand or obtain. This is clearly above the stratosphere and I don't mean the place that use to be Vegas World in Naked City Las Vegas!! I know someone who plays Halves on UX DDB and his swings are on a roller coaster that I am not tall enough to ride. IMHO it has ruined his game because he has a tough time going back to regular old boring VP or Slot games. As always you are the master and it is impressive that you play that game non stop and crush. I guess those games aren't rigged after all :)



The swings at quarter UX triple play are enough to give you gut rot. But I also can't really go back to anything else.. it's all boring compared to UX.
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July 12th, 2017 at 8:41:54 AM permalink
Usually it's 2 dollar denom
Yes the swings are insane


https://imgur.com/gallery/YQOoB
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July 12th, 2017 at 8:43:43 AM permalink
Quote: monet0412

...I guess those games aren't rigged after all :)


That's because they don't use Chinese prison decks. 😁
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July 12th, 2017 at 8:45:25 AM permalink
Even vulturing UX, the swings are ridiculous. I lost $7.50 doing it yesterday. 😡
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July 12th, 2017 at 1:19:04 PM permalink
No matter how swingy they make a game, some gamblers are always gonna play it... I'm awaiting a time when I see a video poker paytable that pays some ungodly 10,000credits or something for 4 of a kind or better and pays nothing for full houses and below.

And I guarantee you'll have people wanting to play that, too. Gamblers gon gamble!
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July 12th, 2017 at 1:20:14 PM permalink
Go to 5 dimes. They already have it
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July 12th, 2017 at 1:29:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Usually it's 2 dollar denom
Yes the swings are insane

https://imgur.com/gallery/YQOoB


nice hit!

variance of regular dwb is only 33.
whats the variance of the Ult X version?
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July 12th, 2017 at 2:05:27 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

nice hit!

variance of regular dwb is only 33.
whats the variance of the Ult X version?



Most everyone I know that plays is dreaming of flopped Full House and Flopped Royal next hand!

I don't know all the variance numbers but I'm pretty sure its around 600... I used to mess around with this game when it first came out that was full pay but no strategy was invented yet. The game was Super Times Pay MultiStrike and that game was something like 330 variance. They fixed it though... I don't know why the Casino would get scared about that game... only two or three people were playing it on point days and knew what they were doing. I guess it doesn't matter cause the ploppies still play it on the cut version now.
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July 12th, 2017 at 5:41:14 PM permalink
Somone I klnow was hesitant to play a 5 play $1 with a 3 x multiplier the other day. I don't care how high the denomination on UX is, or how low the +EV is( I'm talking higher denominations, not lower, I'll skip a penny or .5 ) I would play a higher denomination and not care what happened.

$100 denomination(never seen it) with a 2 times multiplier, bring it on. If I blank it, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
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July 13th, 2017 at 7:13:50 AM permalink
^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah I do not get how people can claim to be AP/volutures and then when they come across the better situations (higher denominations) they get scared to suddenly bet like $25 or $50... I agree, 10 play $25 denom with a single 2x, let's role.
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July 13th, 2017 at 12:12:42 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah I do not get how people can claim to be AP/volutures and then when they come across the better situations (higher denominations) they get scared to suddenly bet like $25 or $50... I agree, 10 play $25 denom with a single 2x, let's role.

What if it's really bad pay and on a game, you don't know the strategy(perhaps joker poker)?

Does anyone here actually know how to play UX joker poker str8 up(not that you would want to)?

I have to assume that would be a crazy strategy, or maybe it would be super simple?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 13th, 2017 at 2:59:18 PM permalink
No I don't know the strategy. All I would be doing is doing riskier takes with the multiplier. UX for me is a difficult game to think about because I have to factor in the multipliers I could be getting on the next hand. This makes it more likely to go for a SF or F (at 12x and 5x) for DW than a straight (3x) or keep a pair (2x, possible 7x if 4k hits). And the existing multiplier matters too. It's very complicated.

Certainly if you hold 2 to a Royal with a 12x multiplier you're keeping any two cards to the Royal, for example.
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July 13th, 2017 at 3:34:38 PM permalink
Yeah, videopoker.com is rigged....very first hand which never happens in real life lol.


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July 13th, 2017 at 4:19:09 PM permalink
Only the 7th dream card turned dealt quads in this short play lol. I have to quit or I'll start to believe this is easy money! ☺



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July 13th, 2017 at 4:54:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Only the 7th dream card turned dealt quads in this short play lol. I have to quit or I'll start to believe this is easy money! ☺




how did u do a screen shot of only the game and not the whole web browser?
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July 13th, 2017 at 5:00:03 PM permalink
Cropped it.

P.S. there is a way to stop the ads which cause a ton of lag while playing on mobile devices.
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July 13th, 2017 at 6:21:58 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Cropped it.

P.S. there is a way to stop the ads which cause a ton of lag while playing on mobile devices.


According to wiz odds site, there's no 9/7 tdb dream card.

Does 98.9% dw dream card (thus 99.9%) exist in a caesar casino?
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July 13th, 2017 at 6:24:29 PM permalink
On the site, it's 9/6.
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July 13th, 2017 at 11:50:14 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

According to wiz odds site, there's no 9/7 tdb dream card.



There is no 9/7 tdb dream card because at 26.7% frequency, the dream card harms return all the way down to 99.03% from 99.58%.

Quote: 100xOdds



Does 98.9% dw dream card (thus 99.9%) exist in a caesar casino?



What do you think? LOL

I think all CET casinos nationwide have got rid of all games that are better than NSUD now. If any still exist, they aren't disclosed by VPFree2.

I've only seen one pic of that 99.9% Dream Card ever. I think it was on a five star game at Pala?
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July 14th, 2017 at 10:33:07 AM permalink
I know of one place that has a single game on a five star machine. So it does exist
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July 15th, 2017 at 8:43:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Usually it's 2 dollar denom
Yes the swings are insane


https://imgur.com/gallery/YQOoB



Why do your pictures always seem to have a cocked angle to them? This one has that over the shoulder vibe.
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July 15th, 2017 at 8:50:53 AM permalink
Not even sure how to reply to that..... um. I not standing there framing each shot.... usually stand up after I hit and move to the next machine
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July 15th, 2017 at 9:04:13 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Not even sure how to reply to that..... um. I not standing there framing each shot.... usually stand up after I hit and move to the next machine



Classic Pro Move... Sometimes when I lock a machine and move directly to the next machine and start hammering I think this probably doesn't look good. On the other hand I hope that it looks like I am just some mad man gambler which is somewhat true as well! This is one reason I like to play other games in the house and not only one version. Usually I can find many different games offering the same return.
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July 15th, 2017 at 9:18:51 AM permalink
The jackpots come so quick at that denom so it's not uncommon to have 3-4 locked up at a time.
Usually don't even pay attention just move when it locks up usually when I slide a char over or stand up is when I notice and take a pic if it's anything. Usually it's just 12-2000 on that game
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July 15th, 2017 at 9:24:00 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

The jackpots come so quick at that denom so it's not uncommon to have 3-4 locked up at a time.
Usually don't even pay attention just move when it locks up usually when I slide a char over or stand up is when I notice and take a pic if it's anything. Usually it's just 12-2000 on that game



The worst part is when you lose double the hand pay before they hand pay you! Goes the other direction as well but not as often for me.
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July 23rd, 2017 at 1:37:46 PM permalink
Before...




After... Those Aces Really are White Hot!

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July 23rd, 2017 at 2:08:30 PM permalink
nice!
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July 23rd, 2017 at 2:43:42 PM permalink
makes me feel all warm and fuzzy lol...
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August 22nd, 2017 at 12:59:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Even vulturing UX, the swings are ridiculous. I lost $7.50 doing it yesterday. 😡


$2 denom
whiffed
-$100 :(

haven't made a profit at the $2 denom yet.
then again, I don't get many chances at it
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August 22nd, 2017 at 2:07:41 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

$2 denom
whiffed
-$100 :(

haven't made a profit at the $2 denom yet.
then again, I don't get many chances at it



I think I'm ahead on $2 lifetime, but I haven't really kept track. Last time I looked for UX was a bloodbath though as I couldn't hit a damn thing. They got rid of $2 at one of the locals. Someone must have crushed them for 6 digits on it...

Still waiting on a quad at $1 or better...I've played my fair share of those I feel like...lol

Hell looking back on records...I haven't even hit a quarter quad on a non-wild game in over a year! I might only look bi-monthly though...
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August 22nd, 2017 at 6:11:25 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I think I'm ahead on $2 lifetime, but I haven't really kept track. Last time I looked for UX was a bloodbath though as I couldn't hit a damn thing. They got rid of $2 at one of the locals. Someone must have crushed them for 6 digits on it...



I am, pretty much thanks to a 2k dealt non-premium quad on three-play DDB with a single 2x multiplier. Only reason I know I'm ahead on those for life is because I haven't had 2k worth in plays at $2.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 6:53:42 PM permalink
Have not posted a jackpot pic in a while so......

https://imgur.com/gallery/LEMsM
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August 22nd, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Have not posted a jackpot pic in a while so......

https://imgur.com/gallery/LEMsM



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September 1st, 2017 at 12:36:51 PM permalink
This is from the videopoker.com newsletter. One card hold and....Lucky Sob!

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October 18th, 2017 at 7:35:23 AM permalink
Just for some fun a few lock ups in the last 24 hours or so...



These Aces the wife hit but I was using voice activation if you understand that joke.



The Steel Wheel !!
I think this qualifies for the High and the Low!

Nice to hit this hand that some players think is elusive...

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October 18th, 2017 at 7:57:22 AM permalink
Nice hits =). You've gotta have a crazy bankroll to run at these games =P. I wanna see you post a $25 royal ;-).
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October 18th, 2017 at 8:11:20 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Nice hits =). You've gotta have a crazy bankroll to run at these games =P. I wanna see you post a $25 royal ;-).



Actually I heard this guy has been hammering the 25 dollar game at a certain Casino. I heard he was running hot at first with babies and aces and after that the bottom fell out for weeks but recently I was told he hit back to back 100k Royals but I can't confirm nor deny that information. Sometimes these people telling these stories get things mixed up or don't know the real story. I myself lost about 40k in a few hours playing 25 dollar denom in a few short sessions. Not fun nor easy when you don't make any 4 OaKs or Aces or Babies.

I have to admit though I have been on a side mission to hit a 100k Jackpot. I just want them bastards to have to go get that cash and hand it to me lol ... it's a personal mission that I don't expect many people to understand.

I also admit that the BR is under par for these games but I have No Fear and I know what I am doing I think.
I am sure mamat will be along soon showing us the proper bankroll amount to play 25 dollar 8/5 bonus which I welcome.
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October 18th, 2017 at 8:19:16 PM permalink
Just to show that I do play all denominations and do not discriminate here is a picture I just hit around 6 pm when I had to go pick up something at a Casino. While I was there I wanted to put a little play on and I chose this game for certain reasons. When I play bigger or smaller I usually have specific reasons.

I guess it isn't technically a Jackpot since it only paid 500 dollars but I wasn't mad about it.

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October 18th, 2017 at 9:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: monet0412

Just to show that I do play all denominations and do not discriminate here is a picture I just hit around 6 pm when I had to go pick up something at a Casino. While I was there I wanted to put a little play on and I chose this game for certain reasons. When I play bigger or smaller I usually have specific reasons.

I guess it isn't technically a Jackpot since it only paid 500 dollars but I wasn't mad about it.


That would look prettier if the ace was on the far left.
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May 26th, 2018 at 9:21:37 AM permalink


why can I not get imgur to work?

Can someone tell me what's wrong with my link please? I also tried adding a ".jpg" at the end, and that didn't help.
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May 26th, 2018 at 9:50:26 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary



why can I not get imgur to work?

Can someone tell me what's wrong with my link please? I also tried adding a ".jpg" at the end, and that didn't help.



Try small, not capitol, img in your image code.

Hmmm. Doesn't seem to work either.

Nice hit though, (You can right click on it and "view image" and it pops up, at least for me.
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