2012 Wizard of Vegas March Madness
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:01:21 AM
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For those interested March Madness is right around the corner. Selection Sunday is next week 3/11/12. The first two play in games are on 3/13 and 3/14.
I have created a bracketology pool in pool tracker, the same system we used with the NFL.
It is a straight bracket pool with the following scoring.
1 point for each correct pick in Round 1
2 points for each correct pick in Round 2
3 points for each correct pick in Round 3
4 points for each correct pick in Round 4
5 points for each correct pick in Round 5
6 points for the correct Champion
The name of the pool is wizard of vegas
the password is wizard.
You can join by following this url
http://www.pooltracker.com/join.asp?poolid=64142 (sorry still don't know how to make a link)
For those who participated in the NFL pool you can use your same credentials to log in. For the rest you will have to set up a user id and password. You can go at anytime from now to just join the pool. This will help in case there any questions or problems.
Because:::::
After Sunday 3/11 you will basically only have one day to fill out your bracket as the play in games start so soon.
The only incenctive for participating in the pool is bragging rights just like the NFL. I wish there was a way we could pool some cash from everyone and award prizes but I can't think of a way to do that.
However it is still fun. Who doesn't like to participate in a March Madness bracket contest.
By the way the odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 18,446,744,073,709,551,616. Thats without the two playin games.
I have created a bracketology pool in pool tracker, the same system we used with the NFL.
It is a straight bracket pool with the following scoring.
1 point for each correct pick in Round 1
2 points for each correct pick in Round 2
3 points for each correct pick in Round 3
4 points for each correct pick in Round 4
5 points for each correct pick in Round 5
6 points for the correct Champion
The name of the pool is wizard of vegas
the password is wizard.
You can join by following this url
http://www.pooltracker.com/join.asp?poolid=64142 (sorry still don't know how to make a link)
For those who participated in the NFL pool you can use your same credentials to log in. For the rest you will have to set up a user id and password. You can go at anytime from now to just join the pool. This will help in case there any questions or problems.
Because:::::
After Sunday 3/11 you will basically only have one day to fill out your bracket as the play in games start so soon.
The only incenctive for participating in the pool is bragging rights just like the NFL. I wish there was a way we could pool some cash from everyone and award prizes but I can't think of a way to do that.
However it is still fun. Who doesn't like to participate in a March Madness bracket contest.
By the way the odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 18,446,744,073,709,551,616. Thats without the two playin games.
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:19:44 AM
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This sounds great. I wish we could come with a simple way to award a nominal gift to the winner, but I can't think of a way either. It will still be a blast for those of us who like college basketball.
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:36:28 AM
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The service although a little confusing is really nice and free. At least at the level we are using it. But anyway, I wanted to get this out there so people could start thinking about it and start handicapping. I like participating in brackets, but I hated the manual methods of scoring. This way it is automated. Can't wait.
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:12:11 AM
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I am definitely in baby!!! WhooooooO!
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:14:08 AM
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Quote: thlf
After Sunday 3/11 you will basically only have one day to fill out your bracket as the play in games start so soon.
Why does it say the pick deadline is 03/15 than?
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:24:45 AM
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Quote: thlf
By the way the odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 18,446,744,073,709,551,616. Thats without the two playin games.
That is assuming each game has equal opponents. Picking favorites should get the odds much lower hehe
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:45:40 PM
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Quote: thlfBy the way the odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 18,446,744,073,709,551,616. Thats without the two playin games.
You mean the four "play-in" games?
Of course not; you mean the four "first round" games. (The 16/17 seeds are just as much in the tournament as the teams playing on Tuesday/Wednesday for an 11 or 12 seed - in fact, these games are now called the "first round," and the round of 64 is the "second round." There are either 68 teams or 64 teams "in the tournament" - not 66.)
Between you, me, and everybody on the 20 or so threads where I have previously posted this, I think they shouldn't give an extra share of the TV money to the teams that win the "first four" games (it's rewarding two teams for not being good enough to make the round of 64 automatically), but it's the NCAA's money...
March 2nd, 2012 at 2:43:18 PM
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The "round of 64" will always be the first round for me and many others.
The play in games are just that. Since it doesn't include "everyone" it shouldn't be counted as a round, IMO.
At least the Men's Bball has a fun playoff system regardless of what anyone thinks, it's way better than the BCS BS.
The play in games are just that. Since it doesn't include "everyone" it shouldn't be counted as a round, IMO.
At least the Men's Bball has a fun playoff system regardless of what anyone thinks, it's way better than the BCS BS.
March 7th, 2012 at 7:09:55 AM
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Don't forget to sign up for the bracketology. We are getting closer to selection Sunday. This Sunday. We only have 4 people so far. Also keep in mind that after the first time setting up your credentials don't use the same place to log in. Just click the log in button at the top right of the screen.
Who's it going to be Kentucky, Syaracuse, Davidson, UNLV????????
Who's it going to be Kentucky, Syaracuse, Davidson, UNLV????????
March 7th, 2012 at 8:30:47 AM
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Missouri beats Mississippi St in the final. A number 2 seed over a surprise 11 seed.
March 8th, 2012 at 8:30:26 AM
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Maybe we can get Michael to offer up an autographed book to the winner. I think, as has recently been the case, there will be a suprise team in the final four, and I mean like an 8 seed or lower.
March 8th, 2012 at 9:23:39 AM
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VCU baby!!!
March 11th, 2012 at 4:34:11 PM
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I joined. Wise members will find my picks and go against them. I was compelled to pick Mizzou for the title as my youngest son is a sophomore there. I wonder if Fathergamble is picking Notre Dame and St. Bonaventure?
March 11th, 2012 at 4:41:30 PM
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Quote: thlfWho's it going to be Kentucky, Syaracuse, Davidson, UNLV????????
HAHAHA. Seeing as they graduate less than 400 every year, my guess is that I am the only Davidson alumnis on the board, but we appreciate being included :)
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March 12th, 2012 at 9:09:27 AM
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Quote: bigfoot66HAHAHA. Seeing as they graduate less than 400 every year, my guess is that I am the only Davidson alumnis on the board, but we appreciate being included :)
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But Louisville will be a tough opponent, and Portland is too far away for me to make the trip, so I'm hoping we get some local coverage of the game on TV. Now if the 'Cats were to make it to the regionals, I'd have to ponder whether a trip to Phoenix is warranted. Besides, I've never visited the casinos there.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:35:36 AM
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The way I see it there is no place to pick the winners of the 4 play in games. If I am wrong can someone let me know. This is the first time I am using this service for NCAA.
If that is the case there is no advantage/disadvantage for anyone, it just becomes 4 less points in the overall scheme of things. If anyone does see a way to pick those 4 games can you post on this thread for all to see. Thanks.
If that is the case there is no advantage/disadvantage for anyone, it just becomes 4 less points in the overall scheme of things. If anyone does see a way to pick those 4 games can you post on this thread for all to see. Thanks.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:38:49 AM
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I think you are right. There are no picks for the "first four"
March 12th, 2012 at 9:39:45 AM
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Quote: thlfThe way I see it there is no place to pick the winners of the 4 play in games. If I am wrong can someone let me know. This is the first time I am using this service for NCAA.
If that is the case there is no advantage/disadvantage for anyone, it just becomes 4 less points in the overall scheme of things. If anyone does see a way to pick those 4 games can you post on this thread for all to see. Thanks.
Quote:The (4) play-in games on 3/13 & 3/14 are byes – no predictions required. Predictions are required only for the (63) games beginning Thu, 3/15.
Play-in game teams will initially be displayed together as 1-selection, until the winner is determined, at which time the losing team will be removed.
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March 12th, 2012 at 9:40:54 AM
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So let's just leave at that and say all picks have to be in before the first game on Thursday morning. Then lets see who the real genius is. I always suck at these things but it's fun.
March 12th, 2012 at 9:57:19 AM
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Picks done. This years tourney is going to be interesting!
March 12th, 2012 at 12:19:32 PM
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Quote: DocAlenda Lux Ubi Orta Libertas -- Ne Ultra
Class of '67 and season ticket holder.
But Louisville will be a tough opponent, and Portland is too far away for me to make the trip, so I'm hoping we get some local coverage of the game on TV. Now if the 'Cats were to make it to the regionals, I'd have to ponder whether a trip to Phoenix is warranted. Besides, I've never visited the casinos there.
Wonderful! I am class of 2008, I had the privelege of being there in the Steph Curry era. What a magical time. I assume you still live in NC?
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March 12th, 2012 at 12:27:25 PM
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Quote: bigfoot66HAHAHA. Seeing as they graduate less than 400 every year, my guess is that I am the only Davidson alumnis on the board, but we appreciate being included :)
I always have a soft spot for Davidson and St Mary's. No reason just like the underdogs.
March 12th, 2012 at 12:30:51 PM
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Not "still" -- moved back to the area (Cornelius) during your senior year. Steph was a lot of fun to watch, and that was a fantastic NCAA run that year -- made it to the "Final 5", then got revenge this season. If you remember the numbers/names hanging in the Belk Arena rafters, I was a student when Fred Hetzel (44) and Dick Snyder (10) were playing. Another great era of Davidson basketball.Quote: bigfoot66Wonderful! I am class of 2008, I had the privelege of being there in the Steph Curry era. What a magical time. I assume you still live in NC?
March 12th, 2012 at 4:50:30 PM
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Doc was Gil Holland teaching English or Ben Klein teaching math while you were there by chance?
Edit BTW sorry for hijacking the thread.
Edit BTW sorry for hijacking the thread.
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March 12th, 2012 at 5:59:41 PM
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bigfoot66,
Never had either of them for a class, and they don't show up in my yearbooks, so I'm guessing they were after my time. The only "Holland" I remember at DC was Terry, who played basketball then immediately started coaching there, then coached UVa, then was AD at DC then AD at UVa. He is still coaching elsewhere now. The only faculty member I am aware of from my era who is still active is Hansford Epps, who is retiring this spring.
Yes, for further discussions of DC, it would probably be better to either use a different thread or take this to PM.
Never had either of them for a class, and they don't show up in my yearbooks, so I'm guessing they were after my time. The only "Holland" I remember at DC was Terry, who played basketball then immediately started coaching there, then coached UVa, then was AD at DC then AD at UVa. He is still coaching elsewhere now. The only faculty member I am aware of from my era who is still active is Hansford Epps, who is retiring this spring.
Yes, for further discussions of DC, it would probably be better to either use a different thread or take this to PM.
March 12th, 2012 at 6:40:16 PM
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Mine are in. I know nothing about college hoops so I feel sorry for any of you peeps who put thought into this and finish behind me.
No, I did not use the NFL coin--though I did use some anti-cuse bias gotten from some annoying fans from the past....
No, I did not use the NFL coin--though I did use some anti-cuse bias gotten from some annoying fans from the past....
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March 12th, 2012 at 6:40:31 PM
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Mine are in. I know nothing about college hoops so I feel sorry for any of you peeps who put thought into this and finish behind me.
No, I did not use the NFL coin--though I did use some anti-cuse bias gotten from some annoying fans from the past....
No, I did not use the NFL coin--though I did use some anti-cuse bias gotten from some annoying fans from the past....
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
March 12th, 2012 at 7:14:15 PM
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i finally remembered to join this pool... wooooooooohoooooo!!!!
March 13th, 2012 at 6:22:41 AM
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Wow we are up to 19 entries now. Wiz I don't think I saw you on there yet???? I am going to post on this thread everyday up until Thursday just to keep it in the forefront for any newbies as well as any other late comers. Good luck all.
March 13th, 2012 at 9:51:19 AM
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I can join to inflate the numbers, if that's of any help. But my interest in basketball lies only in how to avoid it :)
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March 13th, 2012 at 10:30:30 AM
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I'm the current outlier (high side) on the tiebreak. I can see this is already going south for me :)
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 14th, 2012 at 6:59:38 AM
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I adjusted my picks
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 14th, 2012 at 7:51:47 AM
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Quote: NareedI can join to inflate the numbers, if that's of any help. But my interest in basketball lies only in how to avoid it :)
Look at it this way Nareed. Rather than a basketball pool, look at it as a numbers pool. You have 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. What are the odds. It doesn't have to have anything to do with basketball at all.
March 14th, 2012 at 8:00:42 AM
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Quote: thlfLook at it this way Nareed. Rather than a basketball pool, look at it as a numbers pool. You have 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. What are the odds. It doesn't have to have anything to do with basketball at all.
You have a lovely sense of humor :)
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March 14th, 2012 at 2:39:27 PM
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Quote: thlfLook at it this way Nareed. Rather than a basketball pool, look at it as a numbers pool. You have 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. What are the odds. It doesn't have to have anything to do with basketball at all.
I joined. But picking seems too bothersome. I just don't care. Want to enter your picks in my spot? PM me about it.
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March 15th, 2012 at 5:43:32 AM
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Quote: NareedI joined. But picking seems too bothersome. I just don't care. Want to enter your picks in my spot? PM me about it.
I really don't want to enter your picks for you. I am assuming you probably don't get much telivision coverage for this either or do you? Like I said I think it would be interesting for you to just pick based on the seeding, 1 vs 16 etc. and see if you do better than the experts. I bet u would shit if you got them all right. You would make world news. Good luck if you do.
March 15th, 2012 at 5:44:31 AM
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Ooops, I also meant to let everyone know that you only have about 3 hours left to participate if anyone else is interested. We are up to 23 now.
March 15th, 2012 at 7:59:13 AM
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Quote: thlfI really don't want to enter your picks for you.
Too bad.
Quote:I am assuming you probably don't get much telivision coverage for this either or do you?
I've no idea. There are a nunch of sports cable networks available, but I only keep in my favorites list those that carry NFL games. I also ignore them entirely from February to September. I couldn't tell you what they show in between.
Quote:Like I said I think it would be interesting for you to just pick based on the seeding, 1 vs 16 etc. and see if you do better than the experts.
I picked at random. Sorry, but picking by number you either pick at random or pick the higher seeds to do better, that's why they're higher, yes?
Next year I won't say a word. Promise. Just don't start any baseball or soccer pools, ok? ;)
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March 15th, 2012 at 8:06:20 AM
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Nareed, you could do Obama's Bracket.
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March 15th, 2012 at 8:40:39 AM
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I haven't watched a college basketball game all year......but I am in. Should be fun, thanks to Thlf for setting it up!
March 15th, 2012 at 8:52:27 AM
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No Cinderellii in Obama's bracket. He didn't even pick Harvard to reach the second round.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 15th, 2012 at 9:32:52 AM
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There are 26 entrants in the pool.
Pool matrix here.
These are the entrant's Champion choices:
Kentucky (1) APDave, boymimbo, EnvyBonus, paisiello, Paradigm, thlf, Toes14, ucited
North Carolina (1) Cheesehead, dubbydubbdubbs, lucyjr, SONBP2, YoDiceRoll11
Missouri (2) avargov, hook3670, SOOPOO
Duke (2) AZDuffman, Codyden
Florida St (3) kmumf
Kansas (2) Triplell
Marquette (3) s2dbaker
Michigan (4) Ayecarumba
Michigan St (1) FinsRule
Ohio St (2) duckmankilla
Syracuse (1) miplet
UNLV (6) Kathy
Let the games begin!
Pool matrix here.
These are the entrant's Champion choices:
Kentucky (1) APDave, boymimbo, EnvyBonus, paisiello, Paradigm, thlf, Toes14, ucited
North Carolina (1) Cheesehead, dubbydubbdubbs, lucyjr, SONBP2, YoDiceRoll11
Missouri (2) avargov, hook3670, SOOPOO
Duke (2) AZDuffman, Codyden
Florida St (3) kmumf
Kansas (2) Triplell
Marquette (3) s2dbaker
Michigan (4) Ayecarumba
Michigan St (1) FinsRule
Ohio St (2) duckmankilla
Syracuse (1) miplet
UNLV (6) Kathy
Let the games begin!
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:43:25 AM
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Nice one boymimbo
I didn't notice the picks matrix until just now. Very cool.
I didn't notice the picks matrix until just now. Very cool.
March 15th, 2012 at 10:00:06 AM
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Yes very cool. Thanks for the stats. Watching Murray St and Colorado st CLOSE GAME
and Kstate and South Miss, good start to the game but Miss needs to settle down.
and Kstate and South Miss, good start to the game but Miss needs to settle down.
March 16th, 2012 at 10:00:21 AM
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Ouchie for Kathy, UNLV lost
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 16th, 2012 at 12:25:23 PM
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Quote: mipletNareed, you could do Obama's Bracket.
I'm a little surprised Obama doesn't do a women's bracket, especially considering that he has two daughters. (I can hear the Title IX naysayers now - "How important can women's sports be if the President, with two daughters no less, has a bracket for the men's tournament but not the women's one?")
March 16th, 2012 at 1:13:14 PM
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Maybe he does and the media didn't publish it because they don't care about the Women's Tourney.
I only care about the Women's Final Four. Too busy watching these games and playing golf.
I only care about the Women's Final Four. Too busy watching these games and playing golf.
March 16th, 2012 at 1:48:57 PM
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Obama does have a women's bracket. It was unveiled this morning on sportscenter because the women's tournament doesn't start until tomorrow. He chose Baylor as the champion (big surprise) and his bracket can be seen by going here http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/dallas/colleges/post/_/id/4677505/president-picks-baylor-to-win-womens-title
