Johnzimbo
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September 6th, 2014 at 8:07:05 AM permalink
Me...after I go 10-0 the first two weeks
AxiomOfChoice
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September 6th, 2014 at 11:28:19 AM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

Who is going to get suspended?



Buzz seems to think that the Wizard is going to get suspended, but my money is on Buzz getting suspended before the Wizard does.
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September 6th, 2014 at 2:01:18 PM permalink
Obviously a chalk better. Probably be me. Not the first time I have misjudged a man's character. And surely not the last !
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Mission146
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September 6th, 2014 at 9:38:38 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 1 Picks have been posted:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/19451-wov-picks-game-2014-official-thread/#post393936
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
EdCollins
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September 6th, 2014 at 9:57:25 PM permalink
Hi Mission,

(1) I only see four picks for VCUSkyhawk. (Typo on your part?) If not, before using the grading program, add the words "no pick" for his 5th pick in the grading program.

(2) My name appears twice and one of them should be removed.

(3) StrictlyAP has two opposing picks, (Minnesota and St. Louis) something I'm all too familiar with, since that happened to me once last year. :)

(4) The grading program won't recognize "Tampa Bay u44-confidence" from SodaWater. Change the u to Under.
Buzzard
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:00:29 PM permalink
Did Mike skip this week, or withdraw once he saw I entered ? About time I got my rightful respect !
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EdCollins
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:01:48 PM permalink
Hmmm... I don't think the program will recognize JW17 and his "NO" pick. "Saints" is okay of coure, as is "New O" but not just NO.

(I clicked the Grade Player button and this pick appears in a blue colored font, indicating the program doesn't recognize it.)

I can probably add NO in a later update, as a valid pick for the Saints.

Other than that, it doesn't appear to have a problem with the format of anyone else's picks. That's good.
EdCollins
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:03:20 PM permalink
We had 41 players last year, so this year's turnout is a bit disappointing, by comparison.
Buzzard
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:19:29 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

We had 41 players last year, so this year's turnout is a bit disappointing, by comparison.



Ed, you are so right ! DAMN
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EdCollins
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September 6th, 2014 at 11:23:37 PM permalink
Version 2.02 (of the grading calculator, for those using it) can be found here.

"NO" is now a valid entry for New Orleans. (No one ever entered NO for the Saints last year? Really?)

The lines and the player picks for Week #1 have been entered in this version.
sodawater
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September 7th, 2014 at 12:03:50 AM permalink
are opposing picks legal?
EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 12:13:07 AM permalink
No, opposing picks were definitely illegal last year and I'm sure they are illegal again this year. Technically, as I recall, the penalty was a forfeit - forfeit for both picks.

Late in the season, it could prove advantageous for the person in first place to make a a couple of opposing picks, guaranteeing that he/she would go 2-3 at worst and 3-2 at best, and thus not risking an possible 0-5 week.
VCUSkyhawk
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September 7th, 2014 at 2:18:39 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins


(1) I only see four picks for VCUSkyhawk. (Typo on your part?) If not, before using the grading program, add the words "no pick" for his 5th pick in the grading program.



I was confused. I PM'd mission. I will have my 5th pick in before the game.
I got a plan, we take all your picks we reverse them like one of those twilight zone episodes where everything is the opposite. You say "black" we go white.
strictlyAP
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September 7th, 2014 at 2:23:49 AM permalink
it was a total mistake on my part i meant to type over in that game- sorry
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strictlyAP
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September 7th, 2014 at 2:25:39 AM permalink
commisioner mission, care to chime in prior to the games on this one?
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strictlyAP
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September 7th, 2014 at 2:27:47 AM permalink
for the record in case im asleep , if mission chooses to fix it
minnesota
eagles - confidence
chiefs
over in the dallas game
over in the saint louis game
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VCUSkyhawk
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September 7th, 2014 at 5:13:28 AM permalink
I also noticed that Buzzard's Houston line doesn't match the posted line.
I got a plan, we take all your picks we reverse them like one of those twilight zone episodes where everything is the opposite. You say "black" we go white.
GWAE
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:02:56 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

We had 41 players last year, so this year's turnout is a bit disappointing, by comparison.



probably because of the missing mission period. This was basically thrown together last second.
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GWAE
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:07:41 AM permalink
there are a lot of people on new orleans including me.

The pessimist in me says Atlanta is the safe bet here and probably by double digits. That is how bad my picks always are.
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EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:13:09 AM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

I also noticed that Buzzard's Houston line doesn't match the posted line.


Good catch.

However, if Mission uses the grading calculator, this never matters. It ignores the line the user enters, and only grades via the line entered earlier in the NFL Lines and Results worksheet tab.

For example, this week a user can enter Dallas +100 and the program will still only grade it as Dallas +3.
VCUSkyhawk
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:15:14 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Good catch.

However, if Mission uses the grading calculator, this never matters. It ignores the line the user enters, and only grades via the line entered earlier in the NFL Lines and Results worksheet tab.

For example, this week a user can enter Dallas +100 and the program will still only grade it as Dallas +3.



Gotcha. Are picks graded by the final line before the game or the line posted by Mission each week.
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EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:15:51 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

for the record in case im asleep , if mission chooses to fix it
minnesota
eagles - confidence
chiefs
over in the dallas game
over in the saint louis game


If I get a vote, I vote you should be allowed to fix it. (In fact, I'm already doing so on my end.)
GWAE
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:17:20 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

If I get a vote, I vote you should be allowed to fix it. (In fact, I'm already doing so on my end.)



after this week I think people with invalid bets should not be told. If they can't pick right then they lose that game. JMO
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EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:20:07 AM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

Gotcha. Are picks graded by the final line before the game or the line posted by Mission each week.


The line posted by Mission. That's the only line we use. Once it's posted, that line won't change.

Also, you might as well post your final pick here, for us to see. It can't hurt. Normally, you can't post additional picks after all of the other picks are revealed for good reason. The very last week, for example, the player in first place could purposely do this, to his/her advantage. However, since it's Week 1 and since you didn't play last year, I myself again don't have a problem with that this time.
EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:21:33 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

after this week I think people with invalid bets should not be told. If they can't pick right then they lose that game. JMO


I agree completely. The rules are there for a reason. This first week I think we can be just a little more lenient.
VCUSkyhawk
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:24:25 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

The line posted by Mission. That's the only line we use. Once it's posted, that line won't change.

Also, you might as well post your final pick here, for us to see. It can't hurt.



Rams -6.

Yeah, for some reason I thought a confidence pick meant that we only had to do 4 picks.
I got a plan, we take all your picks we reverse them like one of those twilight zone episodes where everything is the opposite. You say "black" we go white.
EdCollins
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:37:33 AM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

Rams -6.

Yeah, for some reason I thought a confidence pick meant that we only had to do 4 picks.


Noted. Thanks.

Mission will decide if it's to be allowed. Hopefully he will chime in before that game.
terapined
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September 7th, 2014 at 8:06:56 AM permalink
I vote 1st week lenient on the rules.

Also, according to the rules more can join, 1st week will be their bye week.
Cmon people, still time to join the party.

1 vote regular pick, 2 votes confidence.
Here is how we picked.

Most love New Orleans 16 , San Francisco 10
Least love Atlanta 0 Buffalo 0
Most lopsided action New Orleans 16 Atlanta 0
Almost even action Cinn 3 Baltimore 4
Most action on game New Orleans/Atlanta 18 San Francisco/Dallas 17
Least action on a game Tenn/KC 3 San Diego/Arizona 4
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beachbumbabs
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September 7th, 2014 at 1:39:06 PM permalink
Well, I'm starting deep in the hole, it seems. 1-5. Ugh!
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September 7th, 2014 at 1:47:27 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Well, I'm starting deep in the hole, it seems. 1-5. Ugh!




hahahah me to. How the hell did the steals blow a 24 point lead in the 4th. I am so bad at this.
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Mission146
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September 8th, 2014 at 10:54:37 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Hi Mission,

(1) I only see four picks for VCUSkyhawk. (Typo on your part?) If not, before using the grading program, add the words "no pick" for his 5th pick in the grading program.

(2) My name appears twice and one of them should be removed.

(3) StrictlyAP has two opposing picks, (Minnesota and St. Louis) something I'm all too familiar with, since that happened to me once last year. :)

(4) The grading program won't recognize "Tampa Bay u44-confidence" from SodaWater. Change the u to Under.



1.) He corrected it before kickoff, there are actually one or two other things to add, which I am doing tomorrow night around this time.

2.) Thank you.

3.) I'll probably just have to delete them both.

4.) Thank you again!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Mission146
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September 8th, 2014 at 10:55:41 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

for the record in case im asleep , if mission chooses to fix it
minnesota
eagles - confidence
chiefs
over in the dallas game
over in the saint louis game



Very good, that's in on time.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Mission146
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September 9th, 2014 at 9:06:49 PM permalink
Okay, I don't have Excel, but I should be able to get on a computer that does tomorrow.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Ayecarumba
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September 11th, 2014 at 8:34:52 AM permalink
Have week 1 results been posted?
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2014 at 5:53:41 PM permalink
No, and I apologize. My work computer doesn't have Excel, so I can't open the program, and I've not made it to the library the last couple days. I'll have wheels tomorrow, so should be able to swing by the library.
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2014 at 8:33:20 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 2 Lines have been posted:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/19451-wov-picks-game-2014-official-thread/#post395463
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Paradigm
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September 12th, 2014 at 4:58:59 PM permalink
So what is the ruling on revising picks? When the team you originally selected for the week has their star running back rung up on child abuse charges and is out for the week, you sort of feel like maybe a revision of expectations might be in order :-)!

I guess the question is are you allowed to change a pick prior to the cutoff deadline from the pick originally submitted earlier in the week?
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September 12th, 2014 at 5:04:16 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

So what is the ruling on revising picks? When the team you originally selected for the week has their star running back rung up on child abuse charges and is out for the week, you sort of feel like maybe a revision of expectations might be in order :-)!

I guess the question is are you allowed to change a pick prior to the cutoff deadline from the pick originally submitted earlier in the week?



I would love to know this too..as I just picked Min and not 5 minutes later found out about Peterson.
terapined
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September 12th, 2014 at 6:14:42 PM permalink
Quote: vendman1

I would love to know this too..as I just picked Min and not 5 minutes later found out about Peterson.



I haven't picked yet and my vote is to let you revise your pick.
On the flip side, looks like we have a part time mission but I'm cool with it but he might not want the extra workload of dealing with this.
I will go with whatever mission decides.
In the meantime, I would send him the revised picks anyway.
On the double flip side, Ravens lost Rice and crushed Pit.
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September 12th, 2014 at 7:37:28 PM permalink
In other leagues that I'm in, revisions are freely allowed before the deadline. I'd vote for the same rule here.
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September 13th, 2014 at 8:44:18 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

In other leagues that I'm in, revisions are freely allowed before the deadline. I'd vote for the same rule here.



If you bought the ticket at a LV sports book, would it go, or would they call "no action"?
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Paradigm
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September 13th, 2014 at 12:00:03 PM permalink
I am not a regular sports bettor, but read the thread about being unable to change a sports bet in LV and that makes sense.

I am sticking with my Vikings pick as selected.
Mission146
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September 13th, 2014 at 3:01:24 PM permalink
I suppose it's never been specifically mentioned in the Rules, but I've always behaved with Picks can be amended any time prior to the deadline. If you look at your PM's, you'll notice I don't even open most PM's until just before I post the picks, and that's only if I think there is something else in there, as well.
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Mission146
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September 13th, 2014 at 9:48:34 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 2 Picks Have Been Posted:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/19451-wov-picks-game-2014-official-thread/#post395871
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
EdCollins
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September 13th, 2014 at 10:28:00 PM permalink
I assume JW17's pick of "A+2" must be certainly be Arizona +2.

For those using it, My grading program also doesn't recognize...

...ARZ for Arizona. (But Ari or Arizona or Az or Card or Cardinals are all valid.)
...CAR for Carolina. (As written, it doesn't know if it's CARolina or CARdinals. But one more letter, Caro, is okay, as is Panthers.)
...DEN for Denver. (It doesn't know if it's DENver or a confiDENce pick. (But one more letter, Denv is okay, as is Broncos.)

These four picks will have be edited but all other picks as entered are recognized. Good luck to all.
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September 13th, 2014 at 11:04:51 PM permalink
are there standings from week 1?
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September 13th, 2014 at 11:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

are there standings from week 1?


Negative. Not yet. I haven't seen them. I understand Mission's been without Excel all week.

I could post what I believe are the correct standings, but I don't know the result of last week's "problems." (VCUSkyhawk was missing a pick and as entered, StrictlyAP posted two opposing picks.)
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September 13th, 2014 at 11:11:28 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

are there standings from week 1?


It looks like you're all alone at 5-1. Good work.
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September 14th, 2014 at 1:21:21 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

It looks like you're all alone at 5-1. Good work.



Nice!
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September 14th, 2014 at 4:58:53 AM permalink
I think prizes should be split with last place person. my 1-5 is just as impressive as his 5-1. ;-)
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