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Slot Machine Advantage Play?

November 29th, 2011 at 8:30:20 PM permalink
kenarman
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There is a slot carousel that exists in serveral casinos in British Columbia. It has a totally random hit among the 12 slots in the carousel of $10,000. There is a counter that starts at 1000 and could go as high as 20,000. The amount of the counter does not effect the value of the random payout, it is always $10,000. The payout must occur by the time the counter hits 20,000 but can and does occur at much lower counts. The machines are penny machines with minimum coin in of 20 cents and maximum of $1 per spin the amount of coin in does not effect the odds of winning the payout. The counter goes up about 60 points per hour depending on coin in from the carousel. The counter on the carousel at my local casino hit 19,000 today. I told my wife (since I don't like slots) to sit and play until it hit. She had about $140 in after 3hrs of play when it hit with the counter at 19,170.00. Was this an AP?
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November 29th, 2011 at 9:31:28 PM permalink
CrystalMath
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Sure sounds like you had an advantage. I'm surprised that there were available seats, and you should have played two seats if they were available.
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November 30th, 2011 at 2:30:18 AM permalink
Wizard
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At some point it becomes an advantage play, and I think it already was when your wife started playing. For some reason, amateur slot makers are often asking me to help with this type of game. I've never liked the concept.
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November 30th, 2011 at 2:48:36 AM permalink
1BB
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Quote: kenarman
There is a slot carousel that exists in serveral casinos in British Columbia. It has a totally random hit among the 12 slots in the carousel of $10,000. There is a counter that starts at 1000 and could go as high as 20,000. The amount of the counter does not effect the value of the random payout, it is always $10,000. The payout must occur by the time the counter hits 20,000 but can and does occur at much lower counts. The machines are penny machines with minimum coin in of 20 cents and maximum of $1 per spin the amount of coin in does not effect the odds of winning the payout. The counter goes up about 60 points per hour depending on coin in from the carousel. The counter on the carousel at my local casino hit 19,000 today. I told my wife (since I don't like slots) to sit and play until it hit. She had about $140 in after 3hrs of play when it hit with the counter at 19,170.00. Was this an AP?


Is this jackpot linked to the other casinos and are you sure a max bet isn't required to win?
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November 30th, 2011 at 4:12:00 AM permalink
FleaStiff
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I think I first encountered this in Biloxi. A casino "seeds" the start money and instead of it incrementing until hit, it increments until either hit or a certain target figure is reached. With all these "must hit at or before 100,000" the players may indeed be having an advantage but if enough of them show up to exploit the advantage the casino will be happy. For a while there at the IP in Biloxi they had one progressive that was hitting about every five weeks just as it approached the 120,000 at which it must hit.

As with any promotion, its designed to get people in the door and to keep them playing at the machines since active play was required with the previous sixty seconds.
November 30th, 2011 at 7:51:00 AM permalink
Ibeatyouraces
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I usually see this as the prize being a new car. Right now MGM Detroit has a bank of machines like this. Meter must hit before 100,000 and the car is a new cadillac. I have seen the meter as high as 98,000.
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November 30th, 2011 at 7:54:53 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: 1BB
Is this jackpot linked to the other casinos and are you sure a max bet isn't required to win?


Yes and Yes
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