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WSOP Is Confusing

November 16th, 2011 at 7:24:13 PM permalink
kauboj
Member since: Dec 19, 2010
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Why is it so confusing to figure out the organization works, how the points work how the events work, and so forth, the website tells you nothing, and i spent 3 hours on the phone today trying to find out a little bit.

With my finish last night i have enough winnings to buy into a wsop ring event in AC in december i am considering but man do they make it confusing. Even the person i spoke to at the poker room at harrah's ac said her paper looks like a military battle map and is very confusing to understand.

So does anyone know how they whole thing really works?
November 17th, 2011 at 9:23:29 AM permalink
slyther
Member since: Feb 1, 2010
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Not exactly sure what you are asking. If you want to play an event then enter it. Each event is a stand-alone event.

Schedule and structure sheets are found here: http://www.wsop.com/tourney/tourneydetails.asp?groupID=845

There are links to the point system and such here: http://www.wsop.com/2011/circuit/
November 17th, 2011 at 9:53:41 AM permalink
DJTeddyBear
Member since: Nov 2, 2009
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I never really thought about how they determine the Player Of The Year. I suppose if I started to play, and win, it might concern me. But until that happens, it shouldn't affect the decision to play or not play in any specific event.
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February 14th, 2012 at 7:57:18 PM permalink
thomasgrayson
Member since: Dec 13, 2011
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Confusing in a way, but I guess that things would be resolved and it shall be okay in the near future. I really hope it does change and it gives what the fans would want to have in the long run.
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February 14th, 2012 at 8:12:04 PM permalink
Tiltpoul
Member since: May 5, 2010
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From what I gather from some dealers at various Horseshoe properties, the Circuit Events never really quite got the momentum they were hoping for. The idea was SUPPOSED to be a carbon-copy of WPT; play multiple events over the course of a few weeks, culminating in a large tournament with a huge payday that would be filmed for the cameras. Players from all over would travel to various casinos and the big names would play multiple events, encouraging locals to drop more money into the tournaments and really generate some excitement.

What I gathered has HAPPENED; the events got pared down to the point where it was mostly Texas Hold Em, and the cash games didn't support the bigger players who wanted to play games like Omaha or even High Stakes THE. The casinos outside Nevada and Atlantic City had a hard time getting dealers from other properties licensed in that state, creating more problems. Not all the casinos had adequate hotel arrangements, and the main event dollar amount dropped significantly, so "the names" wouldn't make the special trip.

I think there's also a small faction of players (like myself) who refuse to play in tournaments where the juice is so high it isn't profitable unless the turnout is huge...and then variance kicks in. I will play Omaha tournaments, but that's where I draw the line.

I noticed WPT took Hollywood in Indiana off as a televised stop. They cut down the March events (their main tournament) down quite a bit and took away the big one...but after research it's easy to see why... they had less than 100 people in the main event. Most of those events draw at least 200 entrants, if not more.
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February 16th, 2012 at 4:52:09 AM permalink
Boz
Member since: Sep 22, 2011
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Even in the WSOP events in AC, most of the players get in off satelites and there are very few big name players. Most of the local pros are in and usually one wins, but unless you are a regular in the rooms, you never heard of them.
February 17th, 2012 at 7:52:09 PM permalink
Tiltpoul
Member since: May 5, 2010
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Quote: Boz
Even in the WSOP events in AC, most of the players get in off satelites and there are very few big name players. Most of the local pros are in and usually one wins, but unless you are a regular in the rooms, you never heard of them.


To clarify from my post, I don't think the dealer situation in Atlantic City was a problem... they could pull dealers from other properties and it's a bit easier to get licensed than in the Midwest states. The biggest problem with WPT (I know different organization) at Hollywood was the lack of dealers. They were closing table games upstairs to fill tournament tables. All dealers had to work 16-hour shifts for the first week. This, after a promise to WPT, that they wouldn't have that problem. They thought they could get temporary dealers, and an 11th hour decision by IGC said no.
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