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January 6th, 2012 at 1:20:36 PM permalink
I just finished a page on the story behind the tile rankings in pai gow. Please have a look. As always, I welcome all comments, corrections, and questions.

The Legend behind Pai Gow.
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January 6th, 2012 at 1:42:25 PM permalink
I don't know a thing about pai gow nor do I have an inclination to play it, but I found your article fascinating .

I've already read it a few times.
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January 6th, 2012 at 1:58:10 PM permalink
I second that ; also found no typos [that I would know about]
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January 6th, 2012 at 2:41:01 PM permalink
First:

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On December 30, 2011, I met a very nice Caucasian gentleman by the name of Colonel Rob Patton



That's a great touch to have on a legend. Well done!

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Finally, Rob addressed a question I have wondered about for years: Why do dice in all the Chinese games, namely pai gow, pai poker poker, baccarat, and sic bo, paint the one and four red but all the other numbers black? His answer follows.



(emphasis added)

I think the part in bold is an error.
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January 6th, 2012 at 2:50:50 PM permalink
Very cool. Thanks for that.


One problem was, I was getting a feeling of vertigo while looking at the tiles. The photos look upside-down.

On the other hand, I rotated one. It still looks weird, but not as bad.

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...paint the one and four red but all the other numbers black?

Shouldn't that say "black or blue" ?
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January 6th, 2012 at 2:52:17 PM permalink
A quick mention and salute to Billy Woo (actually, the Sinophile Bill Walsh of Trenton, NJ), who as a casino executive in Las Vegas and Atlantic City, had for ages promoted and introduced both Tiles and Pai Gow poker to countless Casinos in his casino version of the games.

A salute to Bill.
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January 6th, 2012 at 2:53:02 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

pai poker poker
I think the part in bold is an error.

No error.

In both games, dice are traditionally used to determine the dealing order.

However, lately, in PG Poker, you're more likely to see a single digit RNG display for this purpose.
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January 6th, 2012 at 3:57:07 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: Nareed

pai poker poker
I think the part in bold is an error.

No error.

In both games, dice are traditionally used to determine the dealing order.

However, lately, in PG Poker, you're more likely to see a single digit RNG display for this purpose.



I think what Nareed means is that it should say PAI GOW POKER, instead of PAI POKER POKER, unless there's something called Pai Poker Poker.

The article is super fascinating. I'm going down to HSI this week, and I will share that with the dealers. Most fascinating is the fact that all the 1 and 4 dot tiles are red. That's so cool
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January 6th, 2012 at 5:10:42 PM permalink
Thanks everyone for the comments.

Regarding the vertigo, I thought I would do something different than the usual laying down tiles. These are supposed to look big and imposing, like the monoliths in 2001, but I doubt anybody will make that connection. In the actual pictures it is hard to tell they are even upright, so I know I could have done a better job. If I think of a better way to show them I'll redo them. Maybe get a model to hold them, like the gals on the Price is Right might hold a can of peas.
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January 6th, 2012 at 5:19:24 PM permalink
I liked the photos. It was a nice change of pace.

Was there any explanation why there are three "six" value tiles and only one "three"?
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January 6th, 2012 at 5:28:55 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Was there any explanation why there are three "six" value tiles and only one "three"?



Not in that page. The rules of pai gow, state that the 1+2 and 2+4 tiles are wild, and are worth 3 or 6 points. So there are really 2 wild tiles and 4 tiles worth six points.

However, your question leads to the question of why the Gee and Joon were chosen to be wild. To that, I have no idea.
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January 6th, 2012 at 6:26:55 PM permalink
Very cool stuff! Thanks Wizard! The last update day should be 2012, not 2011. That's it, thanks again.
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January 6th, 2012 at 7:58:44 PM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: Nareed

pai poker poker
I think the part in bold is an error.

No error. . . .


I think what Nareed means is that it should say PAI GOW POKER, instead of PAI POKER POKER, ...


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January 7th, 2012 at 10:21:18 PM permalink
Great article. Hey, I was at that session with Colonel Rob! What a night at the tables that was . . .
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