How do you know an online casino is honest?

Reputation is all there is. That, and the fact that the incentive to cheat is much lower for an online casino than a real one.

In Vegas, chips used to be as good as cash, not anymore, but you still stand a better than 99.9% chance of cashing out, and it's a straightforward process. Retrieving money from an online casino tends to be a long and rocky enough process that most players never go through it. Small amounts of money are regularly just left in the bank.
What's more, while a B&M casino has to constantly fight the stream of expenses in property maintenance and wages, an online casino has a tiny staff, in smaller ones just the proprietor, and costs as much to start and operate as a single slot machine. In a real casino, players bring hold minus expenses, in an online one even the smallest hold is still profit - the number of tables is virtually unlimited.

So it's not hard to expect an online casino to play fair. They have no real need to cheat. Some still cheat just because they can, but for a long-term player, the gains from cheating are relatively small and the potential gains from fair play large enough to make the latter a perfectly practical strategy. How can you tell which are playing fair, well, that is trickier, but they certainly don't all cheat.

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Reputation is all there is. That, and the fact that the incentive to cheat is much lower for an online casino than a real one.

In Vegas, chips used to be as good as cash, not anymore, but you still stand a better than 99.9% chance of cashing out, and it's a straightforward process. Retrieving money from an online casino tends to be a long and rocky enough process that most players never go through it. Small amounts of money are regularly just left in the bank.
What's more, while a B&M casino has to constantly fight the stream of expenses in property maintenance and wages, an online casino has a tiny staff, in smaller ones just the proprietor, and costs as much to start and operate as a single slot machine. In a real casino, players bring hold minus expenses, in an online one even the smallest hold is still profit - the number of tables is virtually unlimited.

So it's not hard to expect an online casino to play fair. They have no real need to cheat. Some still cheat just because they can, but for a long-term player, the gains from cheating are relatively small and the potential gains from fair play large enough to make the latter a perfectly practical strategy. How can you tell which are playing fair, well, that is trickier, but they certainly don't all cheat.

I guess making it so frustrating and difficult to withdraw YOUR money that some customers simply give up is not exactly dishonest,
but maybe that would cut down on the incentive to cheat you. Sure would help the bottom line.

Regarding Ladbrokes (one of the biggest and respectable bookies) I had an interesting situation with them. They had one game with a progressive jackpot element and I calculated that with certain playing strategy I should get a 130% return from the game assuming the odds are fair. The game rules also specifically stated that the odds are fair. Well, I played the game a lot and failed to meet the expected return by a long shot. I lost around £4000 playing the game. I queried this with Ladbrokes support and they assured me that the game really is completely fair and I've been just unlucky.

But what happened when I entered the game next time? They had changed it! It was difficult to notice at first but they had left some small marks that the game was not the same anymore as it used to be. And suddenly the odds of the game seemed to match true odds as well and obviously the 130% return was not achievable there anymore.

So when I queried the fairness of the game with Ladbrokes, I was lied to and then they sneakily changed the game to be like it should be. If someone as reputable as Ladbrokes gets away with stuff like this, then everyone else can too.

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I guess making it so frustrating and difficult to withdraw YOUR money that some customers simply give up is not exactly dishonest, but maybe that would cut down on the incentive to cheat you. Sure would help the bottom line.

Well, yeah, that is dishonest. Although there are rational reasons as well sometimes, due to online gambling being a legal gray area. However, it reduces the incentive to rig qRNGs. Most players in online casinos sink their deposit anyway, either through gambling it through, or not withdrawing it in time (and a small-time casino will close in a while - guess where the money goes then). So rigging the numbers in these cases is just greed going above and beyond.

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but some fat guy in a red suit is stuck in my chimney and yelling for help.....

He's been there for almost a month and you're just getting around to helping him NOW? I would think that by this time, he wouldn't be so fat any more...

INDEED!
Everyone else can too and they are.
One day palying Roulette at Ladbrokes,I won £1,100.This was at the weekend(On sunday in the very early hours in the morning).It seems to me that when you are winning,is because the staff are either taking a break or they have not started their shifts yet.
Now.I did cash out those most of those £1,100 and the following days that I came back to play Roulette:Lose,lose,lose,lose,lose.........Basically I lost £700 into two losing days.
Why?.Obviously THEY ARE MONITORING AND CONTROLLING THE CASINO GAMES.That's why.It makes me sick really.
Random?.
Look at this:
16,16,16,19,16,9,19

8,8,8,,28,18,8,28

And so..................
That's betting in more than 30 numbers.It seems to me,that somebody is sitting there and taking the piss on players.Then when I complain about these kind of results,they dare to say it is Ramdon.I dis ask to close my account at Ladbrokes and never came back since.I went at Live Help Chat(This was at 3:00am.What in the hell is somebody working at 3;00am at Live Help Chat?.RIGGING the Casino's Games,that's what they're doing.)to complain again about these strange strikes of numbers,and they keep saying it is RANDOM.
Similar results at 32 Red too.Another account closed,and others Online Casinos.Betfred(RIGGED),Coral(RIGGED),William Hill Club(This is the sicknest ever created rigged casino on the net)etc..........................
Everyone does cheat at Online Casinos' Games.This is what the reputable ones are doing:
You start playing,and they let you win up to £50,£100 and then,BANG!,the ODD arise and bye bye your whole Bankroll.
What's this?:
31,31,31,11,13,31
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THIS HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE RANDOM NUMEBR GENERATOR?.I DO NOT THINK SO.This has been created by a SCUMBAG,who is monitoring and manipultaing The Roulette Game.
The same as this one:
2,35,32,2,35,32,6,32

Or

36,35,34,33

2,4,6,8,10

20,22,24,26,28
Well,all the time like this at ''All Slots Casino''.
This made me laugh so much that I did ask to close my Account straight away(This was at my first deposit) at ''All Slots Casino''.What a bunch of Cheaters,Liars,Scumbags.SOMEBODY IS SITTING INDEED STEALING YOUR MONEY!.
If you keep betting in your 30 numbers,there will appearing the numbers that are uncover!.Absolutelly RIGGED and STINKY!.
Do you actually believe that you are playing a fair Game at Online Casinos.Forget it because you are not.The Games at Online Casinos are being monitoring and manipulating by therse SCUMBAGS!.

Your post is not very clear. Are you saying you suspect some online casinos are slightly biased ???

I guess as long you stick with well known online casino's you'll be fine. Besides, every major casino has the license as a pdf on it's website. I would stick with casinos that are licensed and regulated in great Britain, Malta or Gibralta.

"Yes that's the only online casino whose results you can really trust. No wonder they can't afford to offer any bonuses. Many other online casinos offer bonuses and rewards to the point that statistically they would have to make a loss. But they don't. So one explanation is that they might selectively tune the house edge up a little bit, which is a nicer expression for cheating."
Jufo81 in reference to Android on page 2


I think youi're on to something. And I'll also toss in the two words EVERY on-line gambler should fear... "AFFILIATE PROGRAM". Go ahead, and click that tab for affiliates, and see whats up. Its no wonder several shady, and presumed reputable sites front-load losses. If an affiliate is hyping an online gaming site, caveat emptor reigns supreme. And NEVER-EVER use a "provided link" to access an online gaming site. After the dot com, remove all content, and press the enter button.

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