Buzzard
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July 29th, 2014 at 7:51:08 AM permalink
" The dice should stay on axis and maintain on axis position when hitting the table surface." You will never be a great DI by ignoring the cyclonic effect of air molecules above the upper surfaces of the dice. That was my break through.
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MaxSwelle
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:00:35 AM permalink
For my edification: is an on axis, horizontally oriented, GTC/PARR fashioned toss the only viable means of obtaining a modicum of influence over the dice? In other words, how else can the dice be thrown in hopes of influence? I'm not interested in seeing anyone one this forum do anything between their legs-that includes tossing a pair of dice...with all due respect.
Ahigh
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:03:17 AM permalink
Not to pick on Buzzard, or the comment that he responded to, but so long as nothing is proven, nothing actually works consistently that is known to work, and theoretically there are many things that could work besides things which have been reported to work thus far.

The trivializing of the subject that generally occurs by people making false statements (such as either it's on-axis or it's random) and then other people ridiculing the false statements doesn't really help the discussion one iota.

There are all kinds of no rotation, helicopter rotation, stacker, and many other possible shots that could lead to an advantage. Whether Dicenor accepts it or not, it's possible that "axis" theory is hogwash and only stacker is effective, just simple that stacker isn't popular because it's too hard to do. I'm not suggesting this is the case, just saying nobody knows a single method that is effective with the proof of 1,000,000 actual recorded rolls to back it up.

For the time being, the winners will be led to believe they are doing it, and the losers will be led to believe that the stick man is to blame.

Good luck to all.
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:04:22 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

" The dice should stay on axis and maintain on axis position when hitting the table surface." You will never be a great DI by ignoring the cyclonic effect of air molecules above the upper surfaces of the dice. That was my break through.



No, no, no: don't "Ignore the cyclonic effect of air molecules above the upper surfaces of the dice."

Make them bend to your will.

"What, me worry?"
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:07:02 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

No, no, no: don't "Ignore the cyclonic effect of air molecules above the upper surfaces of the dice."

Make them bend to your will.



My favorite attempt at controlling the dice is the phrase, "come on dice" followed by a peculiar sort of grunt with an added smoker's wheezing sound.
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:08:09 AM permalink
Ahigh, should time permit please send me a PM. I would like to present a few thoughts for your consideration.
Buzzard
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July 29th, 2014 at 8:14:18 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

No, no, no: don't "Ignore the cyclonic effect of air molecules above the upper surfaces of the dice."

Make them bend to your will.




Always someone interrupting a serious subject. SIGH
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July 29th, 2014 at 9:26:12 AM permalink
Quote: MaxSwelle

Ahigh, should time permit please send me a PM. I would like to present a few thoughts for your consideration.

Just don't ask him on a date.
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July 29th, 2014 at 9:34:38 AM permalink
Noted duly, Axel Fooley.
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July 29th, 2014 at 9:58:34 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Just don't ask him on a date.



+1 an honest to God LOL just occurred!
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MaxSwelle
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July 29th, 2014 at 10:11:35 AM permalink
Yeah, I concede the point given-it made me chuckle too. Smart ass.
MaxSwelle
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July 29th, 2014 at 10:14:13 AM permalink
I just don't get why you all are so hard on the guy-results before hypothesis, notwithstanding.
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July 29th, 2014 at 10:22:22 AM permalink
Quote: MaxSwelle

I just don't get why you all are so hard on the guy-results before hypothesis, notwithstanding.



Well start reading about 3900 posts. Understand he looks at the math and the physics differently than others. After that he admits he was wrong. But he wasn't. But that's just MHO.
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July 30th, 2014 at 9:07:11 AM permalink
What if you just drop a sick ripper and gas everyone out? I think if you go eat a pound of beans with some sugar before you hit the tables.

After 5 to 10 minutes of bombs -- you should be able to clear the table.
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July 30th, 2014 at 9:22:55 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I talked to him about it -- and only about once in about a dozen times does he get hit with a 7. He is never the shooter -- he just does this $6,000 across bet after the shooter has his come-out roll.
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ALL credibility lost! You believe a guy who tells you he only 'gets hit with a 7 once in a dozen times?'
What more can I say.....

Buzzard
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July 30th, 2014 at 9:38:45 AM permalink
I agree. It's 1 in 11.6 for me.
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July 30th, 2014 at 10:37:22 AM permalink
Some 30 years ago, when people used their brains, you could see players supporting their bodies against the table's rail and sort of pushing themselves upward. Instinctively they wanted to overcome the G force and thus reduce the bounce. You see mostly " chicken feeders" now days, game became dull. Dice control is a challenge, it takes 20 years to come to a meaningful results. Here is a clue to those who are interested. Momentum, upper thrust, angular velocity are the forces which should be applied to a dice.
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July 30th, 2014 at 4:47:10 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Momentum, upper thrust, angular velocity are the forces which should be applied to a dice.



Really? Who knew? Is that how The Captain did it? Scoblete was lying?
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July 30th, 2014 at 4:52:07 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Momentum, upper thrust, angular velocity are the forces which should be applied to a dice.



Sounds like good sex to me. Any relation? :)
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DeMango
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July 30th, 2014 at 4:57:42 PM permalink
And who knew that Momentum was a force?
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Ahigh
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July 30th, 2014 at 5:35:54 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Some 30 years ago, when people used their brains



http://dujs.dartmouth.edu/news/is-our-collective-iq-increasing

One of the most ubiquitous problems with this forum is the habit of folks to make untrue assertions seemingly at random.
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