MrV
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May 25th, 2014 at 7:32:42 PM permalink
I watched a guy at the craps table play in a unique albeit crazy way.

Every roll, he'd bet either $100 or $200 each on both DP or DC and Field.

Huh?
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FleaStiff
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May 25th, 2014 at 7:58:55 PM permalink
5.24 percent onthe field bet... 1.3 something on the Don't pass/Don'tCome.
MrV
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May 26th, 2014 at 12:57:35 AM permalink
That may be the MATH, but what was his POINT in playing the two like that?

Hedging?

Stupidity?
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Pokeraddict
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May 26th, 2014 at 3:39:39 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

That may be the MATH, but what was his POINT in playing the two like that?

Hedging?

Stupidity?



I suppose the field is the hedge for triple on 12 where he loses the line bet. I see some people do pass/don't pass at same time because they want to only take odds on certain numbers. Even worse, I see them pick up the don't bet on 6's and 8's when doing foolish stuff like that.
Ahigh
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May 26th, 2014 at 6:08:33 PM permalink
If you must bet the field on the comeout while shooting, the don't is less of a hedge than the pass line.

With 1 unit on the don't and 1 unit on the field

2: +3
3: +2
4: +1.33
5: -0.8
6: -0.91
7: -2
8: -0.91
9: +1.2
10: +1.33
11: <push>
12: +3

Chance to win: (1+2+3+4+3+1)/36 = 14/36 = 38.88%
Chance to lose (4+5+6+5)/36 = 20/36 = 55.55%
Chance to push: 2/36 = 5.55%

Average win amount: 3*(1/14)+2*(2/14)+1.33*(3/14)+1.2*(4/14)+1.33*(3/14)+3*(1/14) = (3+4+4+4.8+4+3)/14= 22.8/14 = 1.62 units per 2 units on the felt

The only true hedge is the 11. So it's not a bad combo aside from the high edge on the field. Certainly a better combo than the pass line and the field an equal unit each. That is death.
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SanchoPanza
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May 27th, 2014 at 4:50:34 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Every roll, he'd bet either $100 or $200 each on both DP or DC and Field. Huh?

Maybe it's an effort to make his ratings look strong.
SACR
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June 1st, 2014 at 5:20:07 AM permalink
He is a Don't player, trying to take advantage of the Double (or Triple) pay on 12 on comeout (which pushes on DP), and hedge against the 11.
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