How often do you see PSO in the casino?

Quote: NokTang

The fact remains throwing dice in any fashion other than I suppose sliding is random, each and every throw is random,

Not really.
I can 'roll', not slide, the dice 8 feet in length and 7 out of 10 times keep them both on axis.
Even my 9 year old grandson can do the same thing too. We started doing this just on some carpet.

There are many videos online of folks rolling dice to get their numbers,
but you will not see this at a real Nevada style craps table.

In a casino,
a short toss that goes past the center of the table but where both dice do not hit the back wall or
maybe just one does,
can be called a roll the first time, but keep trying to short roll the game.
won't happen for more than a few tosses of the dice. Does not matter if the rolls are as random
as when both dice hit the back wall, or does it?

are these rolls as random as when both dice
hit the table and the back wall before before coming to rest?
How about when you toss the dice and then someone in their own world reaches out
to make a very late Field bet, gets in the way of one or both dice, one die hits them and dies right there. 100% a random toss?
I say not.

Many would agree with my observation.
But to what degree of randomness would it then be?
I care not.
Just follow the rules IMO.


The Nevada casinos I dealt in and the Dealers school I taught in all required the
honest effort from the shooter for
both dice to hit the table and then the back wall.

the back wall only - do not try that one, or even the glass mirror on the table, that really pisses off the box.
(I replaced a cracked mirror one time in dealers school)

We need to be concerned about a casino's view of what is an acceptable throw to them.

Otherwise, in my view, it just makes those that do not
want to play by the casinos rules, it is their game,
the cheaters, deceivers, hustlers and scammers of the day.
A nice bunch

Quote: NokTang

Quote: Ahigh

Would you be willing to bet that I cannot prove that it is not a fact? If you are sure it is fact, then I will take 10,000 to 1 odds and bet you $1 to your $10,000 that I can prove that it is not a fact as you claims that it is that "throwing dice in any fashion other than I suppose sliding is random."

You would be more of a fool to take this bet than to make such an unsubstantiated claim of something being a fact which is in fact not known by anyone at all to be a fact with any degree of certainty whatsoever.

Said simply, you are wrong that "the fact remains." This is your fantasy.

Why do you need me to lay the odds? Why don't you lay some odds if you are so sure? For that matter, you declined the other members kind even money wager of $10,000.usd. So it's time to put up or quite frankly, "shut up" about all this dice control and influence nonsense. Thanks and good luck on the NFL games.

ps: It was mentioned on here that you use cheap low quality chips on your craps table. Why not buy a decent set of chips? It's a nice touch having a table in your home. I admired the concept until I learned you didn't spend a couple dollars for decent custom chips.

"Those are promo chips by Paulson. AHigh has a set of them on his craps table. They are Medium quality."

Now that is very entertaining. Do your own due diligence. The chips I have are not promotional chips. They are the Paulson Casino de Isthmus chips.

http://www.apachepokerchips.com/paulson-james-bond-poker-chips.html

There is the link for the lowest priced merchant offering these chips.

But a fine example of your lack of knowledge on the subject of what is a quality chip. The composition and makeup of these chips is identical to the highest quality chips used in Las Vegas. All of my chips are brand new. Ask anyone who has played on my table and they will tell you that my chips are nicer than the chips in any casino in Las Vegas because they are all brand new a of the highest quality possible.

You might say you don't like the artwork, but the quality is simply unsurpassed.

You should look into improving the quality of your so-called facts and be less critical of things you obviously have no understanding of whatsoever.

Quote: EvenBob

You cannot prove something is not a fact? In other words, you're clueless.
That's what your sentence means.

If you said "it is a fact that Ahigh died in a car crash." I could prove that this statement is not a fact by demonstrating that I am alive by publishing a you tube video refuting this claim. Using reduction absurdium I could say, "I am still alive, and therefore it is absurd to consider the fact that I am dead." I would therefore prove that your assertion that I was dead was not a fact after all.

Certainly you are confused in your assertion. It is simple to prove the negation of an assertion using simple logic. They have classes in logic for precisely how you do such things.

I have taken such classes in college. These classes are known as "logic" classes.

The class that I took was entitled "PHIL 240" at Texas A&M University.

If you need further help in the assistance of how logic works, they have notes available for this class online and I can even help you if you truly would like assistance.

http://philebus.tamu.edu/phil240/

Let me state a fact: EvenBob tells lies, often times without even being aware that he is doing so!

Such is the life of someone unaware of his surroundings.

Quote: NokTang

Why do you need me to lay the odds? Why don't you lay some odds if you are so sure? For that matter, you declined the other members kind even money wager of $10,000.usd. So it's time to put up or quite frankly, "shut up" about all this dice control and influence nonsense. Thanks and good luck on the NFL games.

ps: It was mentioned on here that you use cheap low quality chips on your craps table. Why not buy a decent set of chips? It's a nice touch having a table in your home. I admired the concept until I learned you didn't spend a couple dollars for decent custom chips.

"Those are promo chips by Paulson. AHigh has a set of them on his craps table. They are Medium quality."

Anything I knew with certainty to be, as you referred to it, a fact, I would gladly put up $10,000 to collect $1 as many times as possible. It is free money given a true fact.

You are confused about what a fact is, apparently. Because if you really knew this to be a fact, it would be a trivial exercise to collect $1 from me and have me say "you're right Noktang."

I am demonstrating the falsehood of your claimed fact very easily. Facts are facts! And you do not have a fact. If it were a fact, you would collect $1 from me, but it's not a fact, so you will collect nothing.

And that is a fact: you will collect nothing from me on this subject.

As far as how this differs from Beethoven's offer, I never said it was a fact that Beethoven did anything. I said I was "pretty much thinking that it was" .. hardly a statement of fact.

I say to Ahigh 'its raining'. He says 'I cannot prove that's not a fact'. He's saying he has no idea if its raining or not. He's clueless on the subject.

Quote: EvenBob

I say to Ahigh 'its raining'. He says 'I cannot prove that's not a fact'. He's saying he has no idea if its raining or not. He's clueless on the subject.

The the first lecture notes under "poorly constructed arguments."

Let me know if you need more help!

You are merely assuming that I cannot prove that something is not a fact.

Your statement that I am "clueless" is as obvious as so many of your other lies.

Far from an assertion, this sentence is an obviously false statement.

Very much of what you say on this forum is simply a lie. You do not have the ability to know what you say is a lie and what is not very often, so it is easily forgiven.

As a matter of fact, many people have you blocked, Sir EvenBob.

This is because many people are tired of ignoring your obviously false and poorly constructed thoughts that you so glibly sound off as if anyone at all cares.

Ahigh still doesn't know if its raining, he cannot prove it or disprove it.

Quote: EvenBob

Ahigh still doesn't know if its raining, he cannot prove it or disprove it.

If only you were as good at making valid arguments as you were at not using too many columns.

Quote: Ahigh

If only you were as good at making valid arguments as you were at not using too many columns.

I was just quoting you, I didn't say it, you did. You still haven't explained the
concept, you just talk around it.

Quote: NokTang

For that matter, you declined the other members kind even money wager of $10,000.usd.

+1

To Ahigh: So what do you say now, brah?

Quote: Ahigh

As far as how this differs from Beethoven's offer, I never said it was a fact that Beethoven did anything. I said I was "pretty much thinking that it was" .. hardly a statement of fact.

Then why not just apologize or retract your statement? You apologized to Zcore for "thinking" it was him at first, so I don't understand why you can't do the same in this case.

Beethoven and EB

Beethoven,
We all understand how you feel about Ahigh and what happened, but please let it go. You are never going to get the satisfaction you desire, so why keep hitting the lever? No pellet is ever going to drop.

EB,
Not sure what your issue is with Ahigh, but your intention is just way too obvious. Personally, I think the admins should call you out on the crap you have been posting, for not having any point other than to provoke a suspension. You just want to engage in a war of words, knowing you can provoke Ahigh into saying something that gets him suspended. We all know you are a master at staying just under the suspension line.
But I have to tell you, I would much rather have Ahigh on here than you, at this point. At least Ahigh wants to post about gambling topics when he is not being baited into junk conversations by you. Your ratio of gambling related posts to drivel is probably 300:1.
I can tolerate you most of the time, but your mission to get Ahigh suspended again is moronic at best and should be brought to a halt.

Your SNR about Ahigh is polluting all of the threads! It's like mkl and jerry logan all over again.

Quote: RaleighCraps

Beethoven,
We all understand how you feel about Ahigh and what happened, but please let it go.

You know, I would actually agree with this statement 100%...IF the accusations that Ahigh made were trivial & petty (as most of the squabbles on this forum are).

But accusing a person of stealthily posting forum messages claiming that another person is gay and stating that he/she has the photos to prove it (which are nonexistent) goes way beyond "petty" and "trivial" in my book. In fact, it's a pretty darn serious allegation, and I think most people would react the same way if they were accused of such ugly behavior when they are in fact an innocent bystander.

Quote: RaleighCraps

Beethoven and EB

Beethoven,
We all understand how you feel about Ahigh and what happened, but please let it go. You are never going to get the satisfaction you desire, so why keep hitting the lever? No pellet is ever going to drop.

EB,
Not sure what your issue is with Ahigh, but your intention is just way too obvious. Personally, I think the admins should call you out on the crap you have been posting, for not having any point other than to provoke a suspension. You just want to engage in a war of words, knowing you can provoke Ahigh into saying something that gets him suspended. We all know you are a master at staying just under the suspension line.
But I have to tell you, I would much rather have Ahigh on here than you, at this point. At least Ahigh wants to post about gambling topics when he is not being baited into junk conversations by you. Your ratio of gambling related posts to drivel is probably 300:1.
I can tolerate you most of the time, but your mission to get Ahigh suspended again is moronic at best and should be brought to a halt.

Your SNR about Ahigh is polluting all of the threads! It's like mkl and jerry logan all over again.

+2

agreed the admins should improve the signal-to-noise ratio

It's why I've had this guy blocked since Christ was a corporal--just junk and adding to his post count for whatever that does to anybody...

I'm going to say that this thread was not started by AHigh and the topic of the OP has exactly nothing to do with AHigh in anyway whatsoever.

Furthermore, there is a thread specifically devoted to AHigh that, at last count, I believe was up to 213,496 pages.

That having been said, I am going to request that any non-topical conversation related to AHigh not be posted in threads in which the topic doesn't have anything to do with AHigh, and that the entirety of such conversation be restricted to the 213,496 page thread that already exists for that purpose.

Responded in the appropriate thread.