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NowTheSerpent
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October 31st, 2011 at 3:21:26 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Everything you see on the screen is there for either dramatic or esthetic-stylistic reasons, not for historical or real accuracy.



It could also be there to deliberately misinform, so as to protect security of the real thing against those who would use 21 or any film as a "how to" or instructional "bomb-making" video.
Nareed
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October 31st, 2011 at 3:35:45 PM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

It could also be there to deliberately misinform, so as to protect security of the real thing against those who would use 21 or any film as a "how to" or instructional "bomb-making" video.



Not unless some casino or gaming company financed the movie.

Oh, product palcement is another reason why things appear on screen. See "Back To the Future II." I bet Pepsi paid a lot to be in that movie.
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JuniorWiz
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November 2nd, 2011 at 10:48:47 AM permalink
What was hilarious was I spotted numerous young "wannabee" counters show up in the casino shortly after the movie came out.
Ibeatyouraces
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November 3rd, 2011 at 8:09:49 AM permalink
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Nareed
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November 3rd, 2011 at 8:16:06 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I have yet to come across another counter in over 10+ years. Then again, I'm not in Vegas or AC.



Would you spot a counter for sure? I thought you guys were supposed to be hard to spot by the casino.
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APDave
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November 3rd, 2011 at 8:19:30 AM permalink
I've only played next to two of them in my time. At least two I thought were easy to recognize. I didn't see either of them backed off despite their obvious unit to count bets and flip-flopping insurance bets, but then again neither of them were slaying the casino.

I had an older gentlemen nearly shit his pants when I pushed half my stack on my last hand for the night on a neutral count. It was the alcohol, and the want to walk home with at least a noticeable win after hours of playing for about 500 bucks. He even said under his breath that now is not a good time for that kind of bet (and I did lose and get up even, so he was the better man).

The other was a younger Asian kid, again pretty much breaking even on a 50 table with no mid-shoe, he was largely left to break even by his own devices.

I have yet to witness someone obviously being backed off. Then again, I'm not in Vegas, and AC is different I suppose.
heather
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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:06:15 AM permalink
I think I saw the first few minutes on TV. It was one of those blackjack movies. The opening line was "Winner, winner; chicken dinner" and the next few minutes were spent trying to convince you that this phrase is somehow associated with blackjack. Thing is, I've never heard the phrase away from a craps table, and I find it annoying there, so I changed the channel. Sounds like I made the right decision.

As far as straight-up deceptive marketing goes, the BBC ran a programme called "Making Millions the Easy Way: Counting Cards". Brings Nareed's Homer Simpson quote to mind ....
JuniorWiz
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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:39:54 AM permalink
Quote: APDave

I've only played next to two of them in my time. At least two I thought were easy to recognize. I didn't see either of them backed off despite their obvious unit to count bets and flip-flopping insurance bets, but then again neither of them were slaying the casino.

I had an older gentlemen nearly shit his pants when I pushed half my stack on my last hand for the night on a neutral count. It was the alcohol, and the want to walk home with at least a noticeable win after hours of playing for about 500 bucks. He even said under his breath that now is not a good time for that kind of bet (and I did lose and get up even, so he was the better man).

The other was a younger Asian kid, again pretty much breaking even on a 50 table with no mid-shoe, he was largely left to break even by his own devices.

I have yet to witness someone obviously being backed off. Then again, I'm not in Vegas, and AC is different I suppose.



I can usually spot them within a shoe
APDave
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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:54:42 AM permalink
I think it can take two to four shoes if they flat bet through crappy counts and play through. I often play through of my own stubbornness.
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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:59:45 AM permalink
Quote: heather

The opening line was "Winner, winner; chicken dinner" and the next few minutes were spent trying to convince you that this phrase is somehow associated with blackjack.

Did you know the Fitzgerald in Las Vegas is the only casino where that line can be taken literally? If you hit a four-of-a-kind on some video poker machines, they will give you a coupon for the cafe that you can use for their excellent fried chicken dinner. (It says steak dinner, but actually the coupon can be used for any menu item). I was disappointed the Wizard didn't mention this in his review.
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