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EvenBob
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January 21st, 2011 at 9:17:24 PM permalink
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The drop ceiling, not the wall. The ones smart enough to use a safe deposit box get into Stanford maybe?



Ceiling, wall, by that time I wasn't paying attention anymore.
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January 21st, 2011 at 11:27:16 PM permalink
I have a trillion dollars that I keep in my drawer, so I can't see any problem with that.
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pacomartin
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May 18th, 2011 at 10:20:20 PM permalink
I finally watched this movie. Lousy movie. Just stupid. Why did they do that line about not splitting 8's against a ten or an ace? That had to be deliberate.
CrystalMath
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May 19th, 2011 at 8:35:36 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

I finally watched this movie. Lousy movie. Just stupid. Why did they do that line about not splitting 8's against a ten or an ace? That had to be deliberate.



I have to agree with you, everyone on the planet knows this if they know anything about blackjack. It would have been cool if they were technically accurate, but it would have been a lot more lingo that most people wouldn't understand.
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pacomartin
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May 19th, 2011 at 2:05:15 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I have to agree with you, everyone on the planet knows this if they know anything about blackjack. It would have been cool if they were technically accurate, but it would have been a lot more lingo that most people wouldn't understand.



Even without getting technical, the premise that you win every hand just because the count is high, and you will magically start losing if the count gets low was ridiculous. And why did the "secret signal" have to look like a referee call so that even a stoned surveillance guy could spot it. The whole theme of the movie was like a bad after school special. "Money is cool but if you get some, then sooner or later a big guy drags you into the basement and starts punching you, and then you realize that love is more important than money".
EvenBob
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May 19th, 2011 at 2:51:03 PM permalink
Worst gambling movie ever. Either the producers had no idea how BJ and casino gambling works, or they think the viewing public are morons. I can't stand Kevin Spacey anyway, he always has a sarcastic look in his eye in every movie he's in, like its beneath him to make a movie. I can't believe I sat thru the whole thing, what a joke.
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paisiello
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October 31st, 2011 at 10:27:48 AM permalink
I liked it as the pure entertainment it was intended to be. Any Hollywood movie that talks about Newton-Raphson method is OK with me. Maybe flawed but what is a better fictional movie about blackjack?
APDave
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October 31st, 2011 at 11:07:45 AM permalink
There really isn't a lot of selection as far as blackjack related movies go. If you opened up hold'em into the mix you could get a few better card related movies.

And yea I don't think the movie was supposed to be an instruction manual, or 100% accurate walk-through of how you TOO can count cards! It was interested in selling tickets, and I can't say I hated it, just a little dry and slow.

I think the same people that get mad at this movie, think they're going to get some mind-bending, worldview altering experience every time they go to the theater, so they get angry when Transformers or insert "Marvel superhero movie" isn't deep as they want it to be.

Personally, I have no problem suspending disbelief and enjoying a good laser light show, so in that regard 21 isn't some uber-fail atrocity. It's just a very average Hollywood flick.
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October 31st, 2011 at 11:32:39 AM permalink
Quote: paisiello

what is a better fictional movie about blackjack?

Not really "about blackjack", but the plot of The Sons of Katie Elder involved a murder and swindle in which the father was supposedly playing blackjack when he lost all of his property, signing it over with his "X" mark.
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October 31st, 2011 at 11:39:05 AM permalink
Keep in mind what I call the Homer Simpson Query "Does anything from the movies ever work?"

I named it after a Simpson's ep where Homer tries to head off wild animals by shouting "Jumanji!" which had no effect. Then he goes on to ask his question while he flees for his life.

Everything you see on the screen is there for either dramatic or esthetic-stylistic reasons, not for historical or real accuracy. Uuslaly it's sold well, that is it's presented consistently and, seemingly, realistically. This has the effect of making everything looks real, even if it's not. I'm sure lawyers have a field day taking courtroom dramas apart, historians dissect historical dramas, etc etc. A movie about counting cards at BJ would have glaring inaccuracies for APs and expereinced gamblers. For that matter many SF movies misrepresent science sometimes to the point of making it look like magic. I know that, yet I can enjoy most SF movies if they're otherwise interesting.

Some film-makers, in particular some screenplay writers with influence, may strive for accuracy in their works, at least in some aspects they consider important. For instance, all you see in the movie 2001 regarding airlocks, ships, spacesuits, etc is very accurate, becasue Kubrik and Clarke wanted it that way. They even bring up the lightspeed lag in radio communications. But even then, HAL and the Monolith are pure speculation.
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