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beachbumbabs
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November 21st, 2017 at 6:20:29 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I know people can tell you have logged on within the last 24 hours, I didn't know it left a time stamp when you logged on(I also thought there was a way to turn that off). I get that someone could see that you had not logged on yet and then narrow the time down once you did log on. I'm not sure how it works if you remain logged on and just lurk.

I know BBB did it because people were concerned, so it's no big deal.

But, I can see how someone might get pissed if somome mentioned you opened their PM, especially if it's the staff telling others.



TBH, Axel, I debated whether to say anything, since he didn't reply or post. I gave him a couple of hours.But I didn't reveal any content, was vague about the timing, and it didn't appear I was covering new ground in saying that much, though I haven't posted like that before.

We don't often get suicide notes. People were worried. I felt it was justified, since I had said I would update here. I'm done with flogging this particular horse.

And, no, I won't be reporting your comings and goings.
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November 21st, 2017 at 6:20:36 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I know people can tell you have logged on within the last 24 hours, I didn't know it left a time stamp when you logged on(I also thought there was a way to turn that off). I get that someone could see that you had not logged on yet and then narrow the time down once you did log on. I'm not sure how it works if you remain logged on and just lurk.

I know BBB did it because people were concerned, so it's no big deal.

But, I can see how someone might get pissed if somome mentioned you opened their PM, especially if it's the staff telling others.


??

You don’t have to be a mod to see if someone opened your PM. It tells you the time/date it was read in the outbox.
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November 21st, 2017 at 6:51:25 PM permalink
This is how I knew juicy Jennie read my 28 PMs but never responded.
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November 21st, 2017 at 7:04:47 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

??

You don’t have to be a mod to see if someone opened your PM. It tells you the time/date it was read in the outbox.

Yes, I know this.

Let's say you send me a PM. For some reason(like you have been stalking me) I avoid opening it. Later on, you ask me why I didn't open your PM and ask me if I was avoiding you. I say, no, I just didn't look at any PM's today. Now BBB announces I opened her PM today.

Do you get where I'm going with this? It's only between the 2 people sending and receiving PM's as far as who did what and when.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 21st, 2017 at 7:24:17 PM permalink
Maybe he can fake his death. That worked out so well on Ken Smiths old site.
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November 21st, 2017 at 7:48:46 PM permalink
At the very least zenking is being what is commonly known as a drama queen, that’s his god given right to behave as he so chooses. Alas unbeknownst to him so do the rest of us have the right to behave as we choose, although most here don’t seem to impose too much on rest of the community.
As politically incorrect as this sounds ( f##k it,who cares, I’m Aussie) he needs to be given a good flogging behind the back shed. At the very least one of his crew needs to give him a good slap in the mouth.
I should also say this as well, in my opinion I would have thought that perhaps the site administration has a duty of care to perhaps pass on the personal details, phone numbers, addresses etc to relevant authorities to just check that that young man is
A) ok and not about to engage in self harm.
B) not about to do something as terrible as recent events in Vegas ( I assume that’s his location) etc.
Yes it’s not a nanny state and yes I think beachbumbabe has done the morally acceptable course of action here. But I would hope and I’m sorry if zenking and others think it’s an invasion of privacy that you have done more, ie notifying the authorities
I’m sorry beachbumbabe, in a perfect world you (and other administrative staff) should not have to be imposed upon, but in situations such as this one it may be prudent to to act. This really should not have to be your responsibility, but unfortunately because of others lack of responsibility and respect, it’s fallen into your lap.
Perhaps not to let the rest of forum know publicly your course of action, as I’m sure someone will flip their switch, re privacy etc, but we all should be aware that any site you interact with has your personal details as such, and by participating on this site, you cannot cry foul re privacy, if you do don’t post.
I , myself , really do value my own privacy AND I equally respect others privacy, if not more so than my own.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 8:52:07 AM permalink
I agree with beachmonkey (well not about the flogging, but yes about the flogging if he was just full of it). Given that he hasn't commented in the last day or so to delete the comment or apologize I imagine it still stands.

And frankly I would rather respond to a "call for help" then learn that the dude killed himself.

So here's my remark to ZK. Go home. There are plenty of people in your age bracket who are dealing with the same situations (no job after graduation, living in parents house, etc). My brother lived at my parent's home until he was 38. Alot of people wouldn't financially reckon with Vegas. I wouldn't.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 9:41:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yes, I know this.

Let's say you send me a PM. For some reason(like you have been stalking me) I avoid opening it. Later on, you ask me why I didn't open your PM and ask me if I was avoiding you. I say, no, I just didn't look at any PM's today. Now BBB announces I opened her PM today.

Do you get where I'm going with this? It's only between the 2 people sending and receiving PM's as far as who did what and when.


My bad, I thought you meant she was somehow using mod privileges to track and report his whereabouts. I think the suicide threat (serious or not) counts as an extenuating circumstance, but to each their own.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 9:44:48 AM permalink
I've busted a bunch of large bankroll. None of this nonsense has crossed my mind.

You have to have a titanium gut to pursue AP tactics, especially when CC'ing is the only method you're employing.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 9:53:46 AM permalink
At this point he probably just needs a participation trophy and a safe space to hang out in with some playdough and bubbles.


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November 22nd, 2017 at 10:16:39 AM permalink
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November 22nd, 2017 at 12:07:37 PM permalink
The guy needs to get laid.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 12:11:01 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

The guy needs to get laid.

If only their was a service in Las Vegas that provided that type of thing in exchange for money... let’s brain storm guys.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 12:18:33 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

If only their was a service in Las Vegas that provided that type of thing in exchange of for money... let’s brain storm guys.


But if such a service did exist,it would probably be mob run and use Chinese oh nevermind.....
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November 22nd, 2017 at 12:38:32 PM permalink
He isn’t suicidal - just depressed and if he was suicidal it would probably be the casinos that poisoned his drink to cause it just like the way they cheat
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November 22nd, 2017 at 4:40:16 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

He isn’t suicidal - just depressed and if he was suicidal it would probably be the casinos that poisoned his drink to cause it just like the way they cheat



Good job now you just cost him money. Now he can't eat or drink in a casino so he will have to start paying for food.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 4:44:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

He isn’t suicidal - just depressed and if he was suicidal it would probably be the casinos that poisoned his drink to cause it just like the way they cheat


The Venetian poisons food.

I’m never going to stop beating that dead horse.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 4:47:16 PM permalink
Don't forget the legionnaires disease tainted water at the Rio.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 5:27:11 PM permalink
Listen, you guys stop teasing him. I feel sorry for him, my crying baby........
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November 22nd, 2017 at 7:50:45 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

The guy needs to get laid.



That makes the situation worse at least 30% of the time.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 8:02:45 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That makes the situation worse at least 30% of the time.


Pregnant after the first time. Casino punched holes in the condoms.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 8:18:44 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That makes the situation worse at least 30% of the time.

Heres a little hint Roger and Mission. You don't have to commit to everyone or even 30% of the chicks you sleep with.

Please don't tell your significant others I let you in on that little secret.
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November 22nd, 2017 at 8:32:56 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Pregnant after the first time. Casino punched holes in the condoms.

Don't you mean the made in China condoms?
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Has anyone ever noticed they sell condoms and preggers tests at the 99 cent stores? I would assume you should just pick up a pregnancy test along with the condoms.

That's 2 of the 3 things I wouldn't dream of buying at a 99 cent store. The 3rd one is any kind of steak.

Perhaps BillRyan can test the other 2 for us (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 23rd, 2017 at 3:01:14 AM permalink
But you would buy eggs?
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November 23rd, 2017 at 7:02:05 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That makes the situation worse at least 30% of the time.



But the other 70% of the time, it works every time.
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November 23rd, 2017 at 10:13:56 AM permalink
Not sure why ZK hasn't posted here himself, but he's not out jumping into the Colorado River today. Last update from me.
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November 23rd, 2017 at 11:23:36 AM permalink
Cause he realized no one wants to hear maybe that every casino cheats him????????? Hmmmmmm just maybe
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November 23rd, 2017 at 1:10:56 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Cause he realized no one wants to hear maybe that every casino cheats him????????? Hmmmmmm just maybe



Or because he likes the drama and is reveling in this as people are talking about him.
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November 23rd, 2017 at 2:37:35 PM permalink
Could be he flew back east to be with the family for Thanksgiving.

Regroup, reboot, and try again.

Whatever, my snide comments notwithstanding, I hope he figures it out and finds some form of happiness.
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November 23rd, 2017 at 3:33:18 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Could be he flew back east to be with the family for Thanksgiving.

Regroup, reboot, and try again.

Whatever, my snide comments notwithstanding, I hope he figures it out and finds some form of happiness.



No. I exchanged PMs with him, as did others. PM rules mean I can't discuss content or plans. But he's not back home East.
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November 23rd, 2017 at 3:37:28 PM permalink
Ok so he is safe- let’s move on
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November 27th, 2017 at 5:05:23 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

-5100



Bachelors degree was useless, not one decent job ever called back since I graduated. Couldnt win at blackjack. Couldnt win at fifa, couldnt even get girls. I couldnt do shit. Even tore my knee apart and had 3 knee surgeries and couldn't play college soccer. My whole life has been a failure. Fuck this bankroll, fuk my car and fuck this life. Good riddance



Hard to find a job when your interviews go something like this.

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November 27th, 2017 at 7:17:23 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Hard to find a job when your interviews go something like this.


I just made my own job and it’s been working out great. I can stare into my phone all day.
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November 27th, 2017 at 8:01:47 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Hard to find a job when your interviews go something like this.



That seems more like "spoiled rich brat job interview" than "millennial job interview."
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November 27th, 2017 at 8:26:49 AM permalink
People complain "millennial's omg they're so entitled" or whatever. Well, I'm technically a millennial, and I don't fit your mold. And most of everyone I know that's my age (also millennial's) don't fit that mold. The whole idea is made up, just as every generation has done for the previous generation.

Here... Watch, listen, and learn before just jumping to calling someone a "millennial" and assuming you know about their lives just because of what year they were born:


direct link= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ
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November 27th, 2017 at 8:53:34 AM permalink
I wonder if all these people talking trash about millennials realize that THEIR parents' generation said the same thing about THEM...

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November 27th, 2017 at 9:02:05 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I wonder if all these people talking trash about millennials realize that THEIR parents' generation said the same thing about THEM...


But they have a snobby word for it that makes them feel smarter!
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November 28th, 2017 at 3:21:36 PM permalink
Sorry to repeat, but
Quote: OnceDear

So is that -5100 for the whole Vegas adventure, or just your last session or last shoe? Does it only include gambling losses or include some expenses?

You can't really have burned up your rep in Vegas in such short time? Surely not.
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November 28th, 2017 at 4:28:40 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

People complain "millennial's omg they're so entitled" or whatever. Well, I'm technically a millennial, and I don't fit your mold. And most of everyone I know that's my age (also millennial's) don't fit that mold. The whole idea is made up, just as every generation has done for the previous generation.

Here... Watch, listen, and learn before just jumping to calling someone a "millennial" and assuming you know about their lives just because of what year they were born:



direct link= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ


Adam Conover? He's a millennial. #CantTrust


TLDR: People are people. Young people today are similar to young people 50 years ago and 100 years ago.


Then again, I do know some millenials that are, essentially, the complete stereotype and epitome of a millennial.

Do you pronounce "epitome" as "epi to m" or "epi ta mi"? Word always pisses me off.
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November 28th, 2017 at 6:28:18 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Do you pronounce "epitome" as "epi to m" or "epi ta mi"? Word always pisses me off.


e-pit-toe-me
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November 29th, 2017 at 4:43:30 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: Romes

People complain "millennial's omg they're so entitled" or whatever. Well, I'm technically a millennial, and I don't fit your mold. And most of everyone I know that's my age (also millennial's) don't fit that mold. The whole idea is made up, just as every generation has done for the previous generation.

Here... Watch, listen, and learn before just jumping to calling someone a "millennial" and assuming you know about their lives just because of what year they were born:



direct link= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ


Adam Conover? He's a millennial. #CantTrust


TLDR: People are people. Young people today are similar to young people 50 years ago and 100 years ago.


Then again, I do know some millenials that are, essentially, the complete stereotype and epitome of a millennial.

Do you pronounce "epitome" as "epi to m" or "epi ta mi"? Word always pisses me off.



What a coincidence. I only read this word for years, never heard it in conversation, so got it wrong when I used it in talking. Very embarrassing given who I was talking to at the time. Think it's the only word I severely mis-pronounced in a situation like that.

Gamer is correct. Eh-pih-toe-mee.
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November 29th, 2017 at 6:23:39 AM permalink
How is there no mention of a possible suspect for the Bellagio robbery, in other news where was zen king
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November 29th, 2017 at 7:27:20 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

How is there no mention of a possible suspect for the Bellagio robbery, in other news where was zen king



Parking?
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December 9th, 2017 at 11:01:00 PM permalink
Back in the red at -3k. Just makes me laugh. Time to beat a dead horse part 2.

You just won't find someone as good as me that runs as bad as me. Meanwhile you got all these other counters who go on GWAE that all talk about how wonderful their positive variance has been and how 'lucky' they've been. Either these guys are all frauds like Ben and Colin from blackjack apprenticeship and everyone just lies about their earnings or like I've said for months since I got here, I'm cursed or getting cheated, it's one or the other and there's no other option. I play a flawless perfect aggressive game and I still can't win. It's actually getting to the point of nausea. No wonder everyone who comes here to count moves on to other AP plays, it's because this mob ridden city rigs their games. The reason they back you off is simple, it's not because they're scared of you making money off them, it's to perpetuate the scam to not let you play long enough to know they're cheating you.
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December 10th, 2017 at 3:03:34 AM permalink
Why is it always "mob-ridden"? Only tourists bring that up IME.
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December 10th, 2017 at 3:34:05 AM permalink
I love Las Vegas and wish I could go more often, I have never experienced what you are saying so I can’t comment , but it seems fair to me
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December 10th, 2017 at 4:14:46 AM permalink
Quote: SalGovernale

I love Las Vegas and wish I could go more often, I have never experienced what you are saying so I can’t comment , but it seems fair to me
#vegasstrong



Don't worry, nobody else experiences it like he does.


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December 10th, 2017 at 5:15:21 AM permalink
Was in Vegas 2 less than 2 weeks ago and actually won at the Paris Dbl deck game at the end of the pit. Didn’t do any crazy spreading and by no means am I a pro, but I made money and had no heat that I know of. Maybe I just got “lucky”, or The mob picked me out as a sap and let me win.
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December 10th, 2017 at 6:20:16 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Was in Vegas 2 less than 2 weeks ago and actually won at the Paris Dbl deck game at the end of the pit. Didn’t do any crazy spreading and by no means am I a pro, but I made money and had no heat that I know of. Maybe I just got “lucky”, or The mob picked me out as a sap and let me win.



The only possibility is that you were perfectly hydrated and well rested. The two things the mob hates.

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December 10th, 2017 at 7:48:57 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Was in Vegas 2 less than 2 weeks ago and actually won at the Paris Dbl deck game at the end of the pit. Didn’t do any crazy spreading and by no means am I a pro, but I made money and had no heat that I know of. Maybe I just got “lucky”, or The mob picked me out as a sap and let me win.



I've done well at Paris and cant play there for the time being due to inept management that are brain-dead. You also played double deck where they show you the cards. Good luck to anyone playing at Planet Hollywood, Harrahs, Caesars, NYNY, and Cosmo shoe games. All of those places stack the deck with 4s and 5s. Seems to me I cant find one person who has counted successfully at las vegas shoe games. What a coincidence. Mob ridden rigged garbage.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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