 | Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard. Here are my reasons why and my promise of support. |
Roulette System (mathematics/wheel bias based)
| November 6th, 2011 at 2:10:13 AM permalink | |
| PlayHunter Member since: Sep 16, 2011 Threads: 13 Posts: 32 | This is just one of my ideas: if anyone has enough time and patience to search and notice and take statistics looking to find biased roulette weels why they would have to go to a real casino from a 3rd world country or to make a team for taking this statistics (be sure that all these efforts will cost you time and money) when they can simply stay in the comfort of their chair from their home, tracking number by themselves from Live Dealer Online Casinos ? (at least this cost you nothing but time) |
| November 6th, 2011 at 3:55:26 AM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4790 | Can you verify that the live dealers are on the same wheel such as by background images? |
| November 6th, 2011 at 4:01:54 AM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4790 | Sudden thought while slurping morning coffee: release the little white ball via a burst of air so launches are identical, note how far apart the balls come to rest.... then repeat for grimy wheels, dusty wheels, etc. and see if there really is anything amiss. Major factors are gravity and friction with a few frets thrown in. The data might also help you decide how "biased" a wheel might appear to be but still be perfectly fine. (I swear folks it really was coffee, not gin)! |
| November 6th, 2011 at 6:44:11 PM permalink | |
| MarieBicurie Member since: Sep 17, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 123 | I'm not even sure why this thread is up for debate. Bias wheel play has been done, it's proven it can be done, and it still could be done. |
| November 6th, 2011 at 7:23:08 PM permalink | |
| EvenBob Member since: Jul 18, 2010 Threads: 231 Posts: 6361 |
Who do you think knows more about bias wheel play, the people who do it, or the engineers designing new wheels to defeat bias. My money's on the engineers. One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood |
| November 6th, 2011 at 8:31:43 PM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4790 | Yes, but the bias would have to currently exist. Based on wheel engineering practices of today. I'm sure almost any wheel that you find in a museum would be biased even if at the time of its manufacture it was of the highest quality materials and workmanship. The question is what workmanship goes into a wheel to be found in a modern casino. |
| November 7th, 2011 at 12:38:49 AM permalink | |
| MarieBicurie Member since: Sep 17, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 123 | Yes, the workmanship in today's technological age is truly amazing. I've never had a car breakdown, I've never had a computer or TV breakdown, I don't think I have ever seen something as simple as a chair break even once in my life. How silly of me to doubt the engineers of all things. I retract my previous statement. |
| November 7th, 2011 at 2:49:00 AM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4790 | Your experiences have been rather amazing. With luck like that, I most definitely would suggest a visit to a casino. And while there, perhaps you could collect data on wheels that are currently being used in the casino. All the data I've seen on biased roulette wheels is decades-old historical data from foreign casinos. I don't even know if the casinos still exist but i certainly doubt that those decades-old roulette wheels currently exist and if they do I would most certainly want recent data on any biased numbers. |
| November 7th, 2011 at 3:16:10 AM permalink | |
| odiousgambit Member since: Nov 9, 2009 Threads: 172 Posts: 2394 |
If I ran a casino I would be all over this with various solutions to make this old strategy too hard. Then again, there are probably some casinos somewhere ... "Baccarat is a game whereby the croupier gathers in money with a flexible sculling oar, then rakes it home. If I could have borrowed his oar I would have stayed." Mark Twain |
| January 1st, 2012 at 6:46:30 PM permalink | |
| mrjjj Member since: Sep 4, 2010 Threads: 62 Posts: 1302 |
BAM !! Out of the park. Not to mention, on some (so I hear) there is software that if a bias starts to show on a certain section over 'X' number of spins, some kind of an alert goes out (blah blah blah)......and the 'bias' is checked (early in the am) and is CORRECTED if need be. There is NO WAY, the casino is not gonna monitor the wheels and do NOTHING about a 'bias'. The best part, the bias player (cough) comes back around noon and starts betting heavily on that section. (LMAO) I would love to be there as he is walking back out to his car with his head hung low!! Ken If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Playing at the casino doesn't make you a pro any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. I prefer to be hated for telling the truth, than loved for telling a lie. No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way. Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things roulette AP players don't like to do. I'm sure AP (roulette) worked just fine back in 1923. Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. 5.26%, so what?......I get taxed everyday. Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Bad news.....throwing in the towel after spending a TOTAL of 9 hours on roulette does NOT mean you can't be successful with it.
Don't let the '2+2 will never equal 5' crowd bring you down. TRIAL & ERROR guys, I can't say it enough! When you're finished changing, you're finished. |
| Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard. Here are my reasons why and my promise of support. |