Evenbobs Baccarat Thread
August 22nd, 2023 at 7:09:38 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfIt doesn't matter if people from a different forum weren't fooled or lied to many people here didn't know about Spike. How long before you fessed up here? You absolutely fooled people here as is obvious by the back-and-forth conversation. People took the time to give advice, and warnings, and learn more about the situation.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfYou adessed it not to long ago.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
The assertion by EvenBob quoted herein is not true. I think it qualifies either as a lie or a serious lapse of memory on his part.
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I totally forgot about that but I don't consider that a lie anyway, I was trying to get away with pretending to be somebody else because I didn't want them to know that I was the person from the other forum. That lasted about 10 minutes. But if you want to take that one incident that I've already explained and take it to mean that everything else I've ever posted is a lie, goody for you. If I'm such a liar why don't you just quit responding to me all the time, it gets really old. Do you know how I treat people I know that are lying both online and in real life? I have nothing to do with them because it's pointless. There's nothing worse than a liar because you can't trust them and you can't deal with people you can't trust.
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It lasted much longer than 10 minutes.
It's good to know that you don't consider making up a fake person with a bunch of lies, in order to cover a lie, is lying. 👍👍👍
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No I didn't, you're wrong. People outed me as Spike from the other Forum almost immediately. Damn I get sick of correcting you all the time it's like a full-time job. I fooled nobody. And it was not a lie. It's like when you go into your psychiatrist office and you tell him that you have a friend that has a problem when the friend is really you. That's what I was doing pretending I had a friend but it didn't work everybody knew it was me 13 years ago. Go back and read that thread you'll see how long it lasted. I've got nothing done with baccarat today because all I've done is is waste all my time on this baloney. Thanks for nothing.
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No, it's not like going into your psychiatrist's office and you tell him that you have a friend that has a problem.
You are lying to and fooling hundreds/thousands of people who are not expecting it, people who were trying to help answer questions, and you. Meanwhile, you're making it difficult for them by continually making up new lies about the situation. You go into a good amount of detail with your lied-filled ruse.
A psychiatrist knows and expects someone might claim they have a friend with a problem. Even then, one might say they have a friend with a specific problem and then explain what that real problem is. But there's no need to make up a bunch of untrue things about your friend/yourself.
Why did you claim your friend lives in Vegas?
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There must be more to what he's doing, then. He really doesn't talk about it much. He's got to be 67 or 68 now and has been playing BJ and roulette in Vegas for 30 years. Thats all he does for money, I have no idea how much he makes a month. He claims he's met other roulette players in Vegas who do what he does, but not many. He says I could do it if I wanted to practice for a few years. No thanks.
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Now, that's a lie. No one in his right mind would refuse
Again, read my first posts. He said it would take a couple years of practice and I said no thanks. Years? get real.
(It seems as if you lied when someone called out what seems to be BS
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How can I prove he wins, I have no idea how he does it. Nor do I want to know!
Here you lied again when asked a question.
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Quote: Nareed
fine, fine. Can you send your friend my email address?
Quote: EvenBob He hasn't got a computer, I doubt if he ever will, hates the things. I have to call him to talk, imagine that. Its so antiquated.
Because he doesn't have a computer? Lots of old guys don't have computers, it means nothing. He tried it once and didn't like it. I know a guy who's 74 an has had one for 8 years and all he can do is email. He's terrified of it, its hilarious to watch him use it. He's afraid he'll break it, so he reads hs email once a day and leaves it alone.
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Axel…. This is the EvenBob baccarat thread. You are hijacking it. I am asking the moderators to break of all the posts about EvenBob’s multiple lies into a separate thread. There are some interested in EvenBobs next 50 cent baccarat bet and are not interested in his earlier lies.
August 22nd, 2023 at 7:33:54 PM
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What should we call the new thread? Bets, Lies, and rent money to make?Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AxelWolfIt doesn't matter if people from a different forum weren't fooled or lied to many people here didn't know about Spike. How long before you fessed up here? You absolutely fooled people here as is obvious by the back-and-forth conversation. People took the time to give advice, and warnings, and learn more about the situation.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfYou adessed it not to long ago.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
The assertion by EvenBob quoted herein is not true. I think it qualifies either as a lie or a serious lapse of memory on his part.
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I totally forgot about that but I don't consider that a lie anyway, I was trying to get away with pretending to be somebody else because I didn't want them to know that I was the person from the other forum. That lasted about 10 minutes. But if you want to take that one incident that I've already explained and take it to mean that everything else I've ever posted is a lie, goody for you. If I'm such a liar why don't you just quit responding to me all the time, it gets really old. Do you know how I treat people I know that are lying both online and in real life? I have nothing to do with them because it's pointless. There's nothing worse than a liar because you can't trust them and you can't deal with people you can't trust.
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It lasted much longer than 10 minutes.
It's good to know that you don't consider making up a fake person with a bunch of lies, in order to cover a lie, is lying. 👍👍👍
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No I didn't, you're wrong. People outed me as Spike from the other Forum almost immediately. Damn I get sick of correcting you all the time it's like a full-time job. I fooled nobody. And it was not a lie. It's like when you go into your psychiatrist office and you tell him that you have a friend that has a problem when the friend is really you. That's what I was doing pretending I had a friend but it didn't work everybody knew it was me 13 years ago. Go back and read that thread you'll see how long it lasted. I've got nothing done with baccarat today because all I've done is is waste all my time on this baloney. Thanks for nothing.
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No, it's not like going into your psychiatrist's office and you tell him that you have a friend that has a problem.
You are lying to and fooling hundreds/thousands of people who are not expecting it, people who were trying to help answer questions, and you. Meanwhile, you're making it difficult for them by continually making up new lies about the situation. You go into a good amount of detail with your lied-filled ruse.
A psychiatrist knows and expects someone might claim they have a friend with a problem. Even then, one might say they have a friend with a specific problem and then explain what that real problem is. But there's no need to make up a bunch of untrue things about your friend/yourself.
Why did you claim your friend lives in Vegas?
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There must be more to what he's doing, then. He really doesn't talk about it much. He's got to be 67 or 68 now and has been playing BJ and roulette in Vegas for 30 years. Thats all he does for money, I have no idea how much he makes a month. He claims he's met other roulette players in Vegas who do what he does, but not many. He says I could do it if I wanted to practice for a few years. No thanks.
Quote: Nareed
Now, that's a lie. No one in his right mind would refuse
Again, read my first posts. He said it would take a couple years of practice and I said no thanks. Years? get real.
(It seems as if you lied when someone called out what seems to be BS
Quote: EvenBob
How can I prove he wins, I have no idea how he does it. Nor do I want to know!
Here you lied again when asked a question.
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Quote: Nareed
fine, fine. Can you send your friend my email address?
Quote: EvenBob He hasn't got a computer, I doubt if he ever will, hates the things. I have to call him to talk, imagine that. Its so antiquated.
Because he doesn't have a computer? Lots of old guys don't have computers, it means nothing. He tried it once and didn't like it. I know a guy who's 74 an has had one for 8 years and all he can do is email. He's terrified of it, its hilarious to watch him use it. He's afraid he'll break it, so he reads hs email once a day and leaves it alone.
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Axel…. This is the EvenBob baccarat thread. You are hijacking it. I am asking the moderators to break of all the posts about EvenBob’s multiple lies into a separate thread. There are some interested in EvenBobs next 50 cent baccarat bet and are not interested in his earlier lies.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 22nd, 2023 at 7:53:10 PM
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Once his other thread was exposed
He created a poll, knew it would be closed.
Now he plays the bacarrats
It is now how he feeds his cats
None of us are falling for his schtick
We know his results are cherry picked
If anyone is still on the fence
Are you impressed he won ninety cents?
He created a poll, knew it would be closed.
Now he plays the bacarrats
It is now how he feeds his cats
None of us are falling for his schtick
We know his results are cherry picked
If anyone is still on the fence
Are you impressed he won ninety cents?
August 22nd, 2023 at 7:59:07 PM
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FYI you told this story before and it was $150.Quote: EvenBobI would also play bacc when my wife and I were staying overnight at the casino and I was drinking and even then I did well. I remember at an Indian casino up north I talked them into opening a closed table and they did it and I won $250 in about an hour as I was throwing down vodka drinks and they were not happy with me at all. t
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 22nd, 2023 at 8:21:00 PM
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I figured it out. Here are the results from my play just now at the same Casino. $1 in parentheses that's how much I bet! What a screwy way to record it it makes it look like a loss. In this case I bet twice on banker and won both times.
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 22nd, 2023 at 8:22:56 PM
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Here's a game I just played I bet once and qon. It's the only bet I made at this casino today.
This is the last 3 days at this casino and I made profit every time.
This is the last 3 days at this casino and I made profit every time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 22nd, 2023 at 8:46:52 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI figured it out. Here are the results from my play just now at the same Casino. Or it has $1 in parentheses that's how much I bet! What a screwy way to record it it makes it look like a loss. In this case I bet twice on banker and won both times.
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This manner of accounting allows the casino to book multiple simultaneous bets from the player without permitting double-spending.
People thinking about tables and chips may need a moment to adjust to the electronic gaming custom of "for" odds rather than "to". (In baccarat/banker, 39 for 20, rather than 19 to 20.)
May the cards fall in your favor.
August 22nd, 2023 at 9:15:13 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobI figured it out. Here are the results from my play just now at the same Casino. Or it has $1 in parentheses that's how much I bet! What a screwy way to record it it makes it look like a loss. In this case I bet twice on banker and won both times.
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This manner of accounting allows the casino to book multiple simultaneous bets from the player without permitting double-spending.
People thinking about tables and chips may need a moment to adjust to the electronic gaming custom of "for" odds rather than "to". (In baccarat/banker, 39 for 20, rather than 19 to 20.)
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Where were you when we needed you 6 hours ago. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 22nd, 2023 at 9:51:44 PM
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Sound familiar?
"Baccarat has patterns and trends that do occur consistently enough to offer the player a better chance of guessing correctly. This book contains a comprehensive analysis of these patterns and trends and presents a "Big Picture" view point as the results acccumulate. By using statistics from a small sample this analysis has uncovered unique aspects on how patterns form and trends develop. The author emphasizes a "hit and run" approach to the game..By reading, studying, and practicing the player can gain insight into the patterns and trends and develop confidence and an understanding of Baccarat."
I'm not going to read this book because I don't need to, my point is patterns and trends is what everybody plays in baccarat. There are books written about it. I'm sure this book is a joke it doesn't tell you anything on how to really win because if the author really knew he's not going to tell you about it. He's going to say it involves patterns and trends which is what I do, and leave the details out of it.
"Baccarat has patterns and trends that do occur consistently enough to offer the player a better chance of guessing correctly. This book contains a comprehensive analysis of these patterns and trends and presents a "Big Picture" view point as the results acccumulate. By using statistics from a small sample this analysis has uncovered unique aspects on how patterns form and trends develop. The author emphasizes a "hit and run" approach to the game..By reading, studying, and practicing the player can gain insight into the patterns and trends and develop confidence and an understanding of Baccarat."
I'm not going to read this book because I don't need to, my point is patterns and trends is what everybody plays in baccarat. There are books written about it. I'm sure this book is a joke it doesn't tell you anything on how to really win because if the author really knew he's not going to tell you about it. He's going to say it involves patterns and trends which is what I do, and leave the details out of it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 7:50:37 AM
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I won either three units or four units it's so hard to tell. The size of the unit is immaterial it's the win that matters.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 10:39:03 AM
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I thought the online casinos were doing players a favor by recording their wagers so as to protect them in the case of disconnects or other IT system failures.Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobI figured it out. Here are the results from my play just now at the same Casino. Or it has $1 in parentheses that's how much I bet! What a screwy way to record it it makes it look like a loss. In this case I bet twice on banker and won both times.
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This manner of accounting allows the casino to book multiple simultaneous bets from the player without permitting double-spending.
People thinking about tables and chips may need a moment to adjust to the electronic gaming custom of "for" odds rather than "to". (In baccarat/banker, 39 for 20, rather than 19 to 20.)
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Your explanation makes more sense because it is protecting the the casino from free rolling. If the casino did not debit the account in a irreversible manner after a wager was placed on a slot or table game, the player could interrupt the game by disconnecting or closing the game and use that same balance to fund multiple other games. If the player wins most of the games after he gets around to finishing them, he keeps the profits. The player can then start another freeroll cycle. Otherwise, he loses just the initial balance and probably won't be allowed to play again at that site.
This forum is more enjoyable after I learned how to use the 'Block this user' button.
August 23rd, 2023 at 10:45:47 AM
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When I first started playing Baccarat and the table wanted a 10 or a face card to appear they would all start yelling monkey! Monkey! When I asked where this came from nobody knew so I looked it up. Went baccarat first arrived in Asia couple hundred years ago the face cards were called the monarchy cards by the Europeans and they would yell monarchy, monarchy, when they wanted one to appear. To the Asians it sounded like they were saying monkey, and it stuck. If you say monarchy several times really fast it does sound like you're saying monkey.. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 11:35:21 AM
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 11:41:35 AM
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Quote: Mental
Your explanation makes more sense because it is protecting the the casino from free rolling. If the casino did not debit the account in a irreversible manner after a wager was placed on a slot or table game, the player could interrupt the game by disconnecting or closing the game and use that same balance to fund multiple other games. If the player wins most of the games after he gets around to finishing them, he keeps the profits. The player can then start another freeroll cycle. Otherwise, he loses just the initial balance and probably won't be allowed to play again at that site.
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Thanks, I never would have figured that out.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 11:52:53 AM
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Quote: EvenBob
So raising your wager by triple is flat betting in your mind?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 23rd, 2023 at 1:30:08 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBob
So raising your wager by triple is flat betting in your mind?
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I knew you would catch that. I was in a hurry so I said screw it, it was a computer run game which I would never play with real money. They are programmed to play against you. I play them when the live games have shoes that suck.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 1:48:34 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobI figured it out. Here are the results from my play just now at the same Casino. Or it has $1 in parentheses that's how much I bet! What a screwy way to record it it makes it look like a loss. In this case I bet twice on banker and won both times.
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This manner of accounting allows the casino to book multiple simultaneous bets from the player without permitting double-spending.
People thinking about tables and chips may need a moment to adjust to the electronic gaming custom of "for" odds rather than "to". (In baccarat/banker, 39 for 20, rather than 19 to 20.)
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Where were you when we needed you 6 hours ago. LOL
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From time to time, I sit on my hands and let someone else have a turn. ;)
And, to Mental (and the like minded):
I rarely trust casinos to do things exclusively for a player's benefit, even if the PR department touts it as a courtesy.
I expect that everything in the procedure is either a regulatory requirement or a practical way to limit risk exposure.
Casinos are businesses that exist to make money.
May the cards fall in your favor.
August 23rd, 2023 at 1:49:41 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBob
So raising your wager by triple is flat betting in your mind?
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I knew you would catch that. I was in a hurry so I said screw it, it was a computer run game which I would never play with real money. They are programmed to play against you. I play them when the live games have shoes that suck.
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Hmmmm.
Earlier when you said you aren't playing with real money most forum members came to your defense that you were posting actually winning cash but you meant high stakes when you said you weren't playing for "real money"
Your statement above points to what I understood that you aren't posting results of actusl wagers but just free trials.
Can you confirm? Are you actually posting how you won "real dollars" or are you posting "fake play" results.
My own experience with fake play is you win more often. (Can you guess why). If that's what you're posting then just stop you aren't proving a thing including proof of winning actual money.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:15:32 PM
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For those online casinos that allow you to play in demo mode for play money, they never create log entries for your demo play. There is no business or regulatory reason to do so.
Also, every casino where I played in demo mode always gave me a starting bankroll in round dollars, say $1000, $5000, or $50,000 to play with. This amount sometimes resets after every single play. if not, it always resets to the default fake balance if I close the game and reopen it or open a different game.
The fact that EB has log entries and they are not large number is almost conclusive proof that these are real-money wagers. It is only that I have never played on playtech that prevents me from saying with certainty that these are real-money logs.
Also, every casino where I played in demo mode always gave me a starting bankroll in round dollars, say $1000, $5000, or $50,000 to play with. This amount sometimes resets after every single play. if not, it always resets to the default fake balance if I close the game and reopen it or open a different game.
The fact that EB has log entries and they are not large number is almost conclusive proof that these are real-money wagers. It is only that I have never played on playtech that prevents me from saying with certainty that these are real-money logs.
This forum is more enjoyable after I learned how to use the 'Block this user' button.
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:32:00 PM
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Quote: MentalFor those online casinos that allow you to play in demo mode for play money, they never create log entries for your demo play. There is no business or regulatory reason to do so.
Also, every casino where I played in demo mode always gave me a starting bankroll in round dollars, say $1000, $5000, or $50,000 to play with. This amount sometimes resets after every single play. if not, it always resets to the default fake balance if I close the game and reopen it or open a different game.
The fact that EB has log entries and they are not large number is almost conclusive proof that these are real-money wagers. It is only that I have never played on playtech that prevents me from saying with certainty that these are real-money logs.
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granted I would suggest it is EB's own words that should also give you pause.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:50:02 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBob
So raising your wager by triple is flat betting in your mind?
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I knew you would catch that. I was in a hurry so I said screw it, it was a computer run game which I would never play with real money. They are programmed to play against you. I play them when the live games have shoes that suck.
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Hmmmm.
Earlier when you said you aren't playing with real money most forum members came to your defense that you were posting actually winning cash but you meant high stakes when you said you weren't playing for "real money"
Your statement above points to what I understood that you aren't posting results of actusl wagers but just free trials.
Can you confirm? Are you actually posting how you won "real dollars" or are you posting "fake play" results.
My own experience with fake play is you win more often. (Can you guess why). If that's what you're posting then just stop you aren't proving a thing including proof of winning actual money.
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Real Money - Financial Dictionary
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Real Money · 1. An informal term for a large amount of money.
The first went time I went to an investment specialist he asked me if I wanted to screw around or if I wanted to invest 'real money'. Real money is a term that means money of some consequence. Like investing $10,000 instead of investing $500. Like shooting a pool game for $100 instead of $5. 'Do you want to shoot pool for real money or do you want to screw around.'
Yes I'm betting actual money, I don't see any place online that lets you play for their money. 50 cents and a dollar is not real money, it's who cares money.. It's practice money. But a win is a win and that 50 cent bet could have been a $25 bet. And yes I consider $25 online to be real money, in a brick and mortar Casino real money starts at $100.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:54:24 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBob
So raising your wager by triple is flat betting in your mind?
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I knew you would catch that. I was in a hurry so I said screw it, it was a computer run game which I would never play with real money. They are programmed to play against you. I play them when the live games have shoes that suck.
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Hmmmm.
Earlier when you said you aren't playing with real money most forum members came to your defense that you were posting actually winning cash but you meant high stakes when you said you weren't playing for "real money"
Your statement above points to what I understood that you aren't posting results of actusl wagers but just free trials.
Can you confirm? Are you actually posting how you won "real dollars" or are you posting "fake play" results.
My own experience with fake play is you win more often. (Can you guess why). If that's what you're posting then just stop you aren't proving a thing including proof of winning actual money.
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Real Money - Financial Dictionary
The Free Dictionary
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Real Money · 1. An informal term for a large amount of money.
The first went time I went to an investment specialist he asked me if I wanted to screw around or if I wanted to invest 'real money'. Real money is a term that means money of some consequence. Like investing $10,000 instead of investing $500. Like shooting a pool game for $100 instead of $5. 'Do you want to shoot pool for real money or do you want to screw around.'
Yes I'm betting actual money, I don't see any place online that lets you play for their money. 50 cents and a dollar is not real money, it's who cares money.. It's practice money. But a win is a win and that 50 cent bet could have been a $25 bet. And yes I consider $25 online to be real money, in a brick and mortar Casino real money starts at $100.
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Okay cool.
The only problem with the "real money" euphemism is it's defined differently by different people.
Hypothetical conversation:
Tobey Maguire: "You are only wagering $100,000 per hand. Want to play for some real money?"
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 23rd, 2023 at 2:58:20 PM
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Quote: Mental
The fact that EB has log entries and they are not large number is almost conclusive proof that these are real-money wagers. It is only that I have never played on playtech that prevents me from saying with certainty that these are real-money logs.
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Actually I realize now they aren't from Playtech, they are specific to the Wynn Casino online. I realize that now because they offer games other than Playtech, so it's the Wynn Casino that are the cheapskates with the software. It's the casinos themselves that offer the history page so it's somewhat different for every Casino. This is all new to me I've been playing online for a year and a half but I never look at the history page, I have no reason to.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:00:05 PM
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OMG, I stopped paying attention to EB's words long ago.Quote: darkozgranted I would suggest it is EB's own words that should also give you pause.
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This forum is more enjoyable after I learned how to use the 'Block this user' button.
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:00:12 PM
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Quote: darkoz
Tobey Maguire: "You are only wagering $100,000 per hand. Want to play for some real money?"
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Real money to Elon Musk it's not real money to you and me. I would imagine real money to him would have to be over a billion dollars. There's a famous quote from one of the robber barons in the late 19th century where he said it's gotten so bad that people who have a million dollars think they have real money. I think it was one of the Vanderbilts.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 23rd, 2023 at 3:18:01 PM
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Did someone suggest he was playing with fake money? I didn't, nor did I assume he altered his screenshots. I assumed the accounting misunderstanding was due to something related to the gaming day or something strange like that.Quote: MentalFor those online casinos that allow you to play in demo mode for play money, they never create log entries for your demo play. There is no business or regulatory reason to do so.
Also, every casino where I played in demo mode always gave me a starting bankroll in round dollars, say $1000, $5000, or $50,000 to play with. This amount sometimes resets after every single play. if not, it always resets to the default fake balance if I close the game and reopen it or open a different game.
The fact that EB has log entries and they are not large number is almost conclusive proof that these are real-money wagers. It is only that I have never played on playtech that prevents me from saying with certainty that these are real-money logs.
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My only concern is cherry-picking results, casinos, etc. There's no chance we will know if Bob is actually winning or losing based on what he is posting. I have been proving that myself, for the purpose of showing there must be preset protocols to provide convincing evidence you are beating -EV games. My posted results will absolutely crush his results, but they are just as meaningless as his are.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 24th, 2023 at 3:40:50 AM
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I think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless. Yes, to the extent that he actually cracks up laughing when he posts them.
So it is definitely proof positive in my mind that he is a relentless trolling addict.
If I'm not to say something like that then I'll take my suspension
So it is definitely proof positive in my mind that he is a relentless trolling addict.
If I'm not to say something like that then I'll take my suspension
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
August 24th, 2023 at 6:04:59 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitI think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless. Yes, to the extent that he actually cracks up laughing when he posts them.
So it is definitely proof positive in my mind that he is a relentless trolling addict.
If I'm not to say something like that then I'll take my suspension
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Three day suspension. For personal insult.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
August 24th, 2023 at 7:17:47 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitI think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless.
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I'm not sure why you would think I think they are meaningless. If that's what I thought I wouldn't waste my time doing it. Also, this is what people asked me to do, post the results from my play online. The amount of the bet is irrelevant. When you go into a brick and mortar Casino and you put down the minimum amount, your chance of winning is exactly the same as if you put down the maximum amount. The same is true in an online casino. Winning with a $1 wager is every bit as difficult as winning with a $1,000 wager. Yet when people see the $1 win they say, good grief that's meaningless. No, it's exactly as meaningful as a $1,000 win, statistically.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 7:20:58 AM
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Yeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
What's with the criticism?
August 24th, 2023 at 7:26:24 AM
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Quote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Exactly and the good news is, lots more to come. I would have posted more last night but I lost my damn phone and spent 90 minutes looking for it. That's never happened to me before and it was almost a traumatic experience. I didn't realize how attached to my phone I was. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 10:27:42 AM
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Quote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Nothing wrong with posting some hand picked results. I do it all the time in my sports betting thread. I post the ones that I think are interesting for one reason or another. But if I posted them implying they are ‘proof’ of anything that would be laughable at best. Maybe EB can correct me, but I perceive EB is posting these nickel and dime bets implying he has found a way to ‘beat’ baccarat. And he is supplying us with ‘proof’.
His posts are to me, slightly ambiguous, in that I can’t tell if he thinks he has actually figured out how to ‘beat’ baccarat, or is still in the process of figuring it out.
I’ve been betting what he calls ‘not real’ money on a bunch of bets recently. Have quite a win streak going. Last night took $1 on Yankees to win (once they were up 6-0). Won $.02.
August 24th, 2023 at 12:13:48 PM
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so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
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so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
Please don't feed the trolls
August 24th, 2023 at 12:29:59 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
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We asked him this in the Roulette thread but I forget what the excuse was for why he didn't do it.
August 24th, 2023 at 12:58:35 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
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There are 100 $10,000 bets in a million dollars. At two or three units per day it would take over 3 months to make 1 million dollars, probably longer because you're not going to be able to play everyday because you won't find bets everyday. So millions in a few weeks? No chance.
And if you're doing it with Baccarat it would take even longer because every Banker win is going to take 5%, so add more time on to that.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:00:36 PM
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Quote: TigerWuQuote: lilredrooster.
so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
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We asked him this in the Roulette thread but I forget what the excuse was for why he didn't do it.
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Nobody has ever asked me this, in this forum or in the forum I belonged to before I was here. I would remember doing the math and I've never done the math before
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:02:48 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
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My theory is EB has been hounded to post logs and he really doesn't have a winning system. All of a sudden he is finally posting logs. Why? Because he honestly thought the roulette thread would remain open. Now that he sees forum members are more willing to actually shut him up (even if it was instigated by his own choice) he now feels he needs to produce winning logs.
Well cherrypicking will work but who wants to lose lots of "real money " by cherrypicking the wins and losing on the losses
Hence, lowball stakes. If he loses a few dollars it's no big deal to cherry pick the winning sessions.
So until EB starts playing what he calls "real money "(and I hope that doesn't mean $5 a spin) then his efforts here are pretty useless.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 24th, 2023 at 1:08:15 PM
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Quote: darkoz
My theory is EB has been hounded to post logs and he really doesn't have a winning system.
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You are correct I do not have a winning system, I have a winning method or strategy. I have never used a system and never will. As far as the rest of your theories go, your wishful thinking is getting the best of you again.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:23:45 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
My theory is EB has been hounded to post logs and he really doesn't have a winning system.
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You are correct I do not have a winning system, I have a winning method or strategy. I have never used a system and never will. As far as the rest of your theories go, your wishful thinking is getting the best of you again.
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You have no winning system, no winning method, no winning strategy.
You yourself have posted that the strategy doesn't work because it's all in your head.
Like most people who see things that aren't there, it's real to them. But that doesn't make it real regardless.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 24th, 2023 at 1:31:53 PM
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I have a winning method or strategy.
let's just assume for a minute that what you say is true
you have a winning method or strategy
it's not useful to me or anyone else
because you can't explain it to me or anyone else so that we can do the same thing
when I learned card counting I could learn exactly how to do it from the experts
it was extremely valuable info
the info that you are putting out is not valuable
because you can't show anybody how you do it - you just say that you can do it
it's only value is to get you attention - for you to brag about how great you are - which doesn't help anybody else
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Please don't feed the trolls
August 24th, 2023 at 1:33:03 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuQuote: lilredrooster.
so, EB just to be clear - I have a question
assuming you had the resources for this - let's say you had a BR of $600K
and assuming the book(s) could not refuse your action -
you could be betting $10K per hand and in a few weeks you could make many $$$ millions
correct__________?
.
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We asked him this in the Roulette thread but I forget what the excuse was for why he didn't do it.
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Nobody has ever asked me this, in this forum or in the forum I belonged to before I was here. I would remember doing the math and I've never done the math before
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It was asked in the other Roulette thread why you weren't a world famous millionaire yet if you have a system to beat the game. You might not have seen it, there were so many posts in that thread. I just went back to try and find it but couldn't because there was just so much to look through.
August 24th, 2023 at 1:33:37 PM
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Quote: darkoz
You have no winning system, no winning method, no winning strategy.
You yourself have posted that the strategy doesn't work because it's all in your head.
Like most people who see things that aren't there, it's real to them. But that doesn't make it real regardless.
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You certainly think you are getting a lot of mileage out of that it's all in your mind statement. You're twisting and turning it and pulling it till it fits into any scenario you want it to. No, I don't have a winning system but I do have a winning strategy or method no matter where it comes from. Even if I'm pulling it from a place where the sun doesn't shine, it's still wins. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:34:42 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBob
I have a winning method or strategy.
let's just assume for a minute that what you say is true
you have a winning method or strategy
it's not useful to me or anyone else
because you can't explain it to me or anyone else so that we can do the same thing
when I learned card counting I could learn exactly how to do it from the experts
it was extremely valuable info
the info that you are putting out is not valuable
because you can't show anybody how you do it - you just say that you can do it
it's only value is to get you attention - for you to brag about how great you are - which doesn't help anybody else
.
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That's the genius of his system. It's completely unfalsifiable, so therefore no one can prove him wrong...lol
August 24th, 2023 at 1:36:47 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
It was asked in the other Roulette thread why you weren't a world famous millionaire yet if you have a system to beat the game. You might not have seen it, there were so many posts in that thread. I just went back to try and find it but couldn't because there was just so much to look through.
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Oh I've been asked that a bajillion times but nobody's ever asked me if I had a certain amount of money how long it would take to increase it to millions of dollars. That's a new one. And I left out the best part. Because it would have to be done online every dime of that would be subject to tax and I would soon be in the 50 or 60% tax rate so you can figure half of that money at least is going to be confiscated for taxes. So you can double the time that it would take to earn one million dollars let alone earn millions.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:38:01 PM
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Almost everything you have said about your 'method' screams Betting System.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
My theory is EB has been hounded to post logs and he really doesn't have a winning system.
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You are correct I do not have a winning system, I have a winning method or strategy. I have never used a system and never will. As far as the rest of your theories go, your wishful thinking is getting the best of you again.
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Your only defense is that your method doesn't have any rules. I didn't believe for something to be considered a betting system it needs to have specific rules. When they talk about strategies, that's usually in reference to games of skill such as Blackjack.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 24th, 2023 at 1:38:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
You have no winning system, no winning method, no winning strategy.
You yourself have posted that the strategy doesn't work because it's all in your head.
Like most people who see things that aren't there, it's real to them. But that doesn't make it real regardless.
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You certainly think you are getting a lot of mileage out of that it's all in your mind statement. You're twisting and turning it and pulling it till it fits into any scenario you want it to. No, I don't have a winning system but I do have a winning strategy or method no matter where it comes from. Even if I'm pulling it from a place where the sun doesn't shine, it's still wins. LOL
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Notably you didn't deny it's all in your mind.
Twisting and turning and pulling it even you Still admit it's all in your mind.
Even the winning.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 24th, 2023 at 1:38:48 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
That's the genius of his system. It's completely unfalsifiable, so therefore no one can prove him wrong...lol
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I wouldn't know I don't have a system, I have no idea how you would prove a method or a strategy wrong other than it never makes any money. That would be pretty solid proof.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:40:48 PM
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Quote: darkoz
Notably you didn't deny it's all in your mind.
Twisting and turning and pulling it even you Still admit it's all in your mind.
Even the winning.
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Obviously these results I'm posting, and there's more to come, are not in my mind. There's a monkey wrench in your theory..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 1:52:22 PM
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I included the last bet from yesterday because it has the starting balance for today. Back to betting dimes again because the live baccarat tables are offering nothing but crappy shoes. This is the same Global Effect that I see in the other game where if one Casino has crappy outcomes they all do at the same time. And if they're all doing well the other ones are also doing well. There's theories for this but I have no idea what the right theory is. If you don't know this is happening it will kill you because you'll be betting your system or your strategy or your method and nothing will work because you're betting at the wrong time.
Now most of you will see that I won 10 cents and go ho hum, so what who cares big deal means nothing. But if it was $1,000 I won some of you would go holy cow that's significant. But it's not, winning a dime is not easier or harder than winning $1,000. Most of you will never understand that for some reason.
Now most of you will see that I won 10 cents and go ho hum, so what who cares big deal means nothing. But if it was $1,000 I won some of you would go holy cow that's significant. But it's not, winning a dime is not easier or harder than winning $1,000. Most of you will never understand that for some reason.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 24th, 2023 at 2:01:00 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Notably you didn't deny it's all in your mind.
Twisting and turning and pulling it even you Still admit it's all in your mind.
Even the winning.
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Obviously these results I'm posting, and there's more to come, are not in my mind. There's a monkey wrench in your theory..
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Quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence, is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.
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