Egalite winning total side bet
0=150-1
1=215-1
2=225-1
3=200-1
4=120-1
5=110-1
6=45-1
7=45-1
8=80-1
9=80-1
What is the house edge for each of these bets? Are they as good as they seem?
Quote: jerry183I was recently playing in a casino in London where they offer the Egalite total side bets, initially these seemed like a really good bet due to seemingly high winning odds;
0=150-1
1=215-1
2=225-1
3=200-1
4=120-1
5=110-1
6=45-1
7=45-1
8=80-1
9=80-1
What is the house edge for each of these bets? Are they as good as they seem?
For those who may not know, this is a side bet on baccarat tie of exactly the spacific number.
0=-0.124502
1=-0.114184
2=-0.095322
3=-0.105148
4=-0.121419
5=-0.118771
6=-0.11496
7=-0.0639
8=-0.110701
9=-0.106327
House edge ranges from 6.39% for the 7 to 12.45% on the 0
Quote: mipletFor those who may not know, this is a side bet on baccarat tie of exactly the spacific number.
I looked it up on the Wiz's main site. There was only one hit, for a PDF: Rules of casino games in Great Britain
In that 88 page document, there are only four references for 'Egalite':
Quote:A player who has accepted the shoe may elect to wager on Egalit้ (a tied hand) only.
Quote:Winning wagers on Egalit้ shall be paid, as a minimum, odds of 8 to 1.
Quote:If the two hands are of equal merit, the wagers on punter and banker shall be void and the wagers on Egalit้ shall win and be paid, at a minimum, odds of 8 to 1.
Quote:Players do not need to place a standard wager on either the player, the banker or Egalite, in order to place a Dragon Bonus side wager.
It's interesting that the rule book doesn't have any description of the bet.
It's also interesting that the minimum payoff is only 8:1 while the casino Jerry found is paying 45:1 minimum.
I get the feeling that the 8:1 is for ANY tie...
Quote: mipletFor those who may not know, this is a side bet on baccarat tie of exactly the spacific number.
0=-0.124502
1=-0.114184
2=-0.095322
3=-0.105148
4=-0.121419
5=-0.118771
6=-0.11496
7=-0.0639
8=-0.110701
9=-0.106327
House edge ranges from 6.39% for the 7 to 12.45% on the 0
I agree exactly! Great work Miplet, as usual. I just added this to my baccarat page.
Mike, the link is broken.
The frequency of a tie on 6 is different than the frequency of a tie on 7. The player is not making a single "egalite" wager that pays according to the indicated pay table. Instead, the point of this side bet is that the player can make separate wagers that "there will be a tie on 6" and "there will be a tie on 7" and so on. They are not required to make any other wager in order to make an egalite wager.Quote: egaliteWhy would the 6 and 7 which both pay 45-1 (this differs in various casino's) indicate a different house edge.
The normal Tie bet pays "8-to-1" or "9-for-1", I have never heard of "at 9-1".Quote:Also any casino offering this "super egalite payout" bet, must pay the normal Tie at 9-1.
In fact, Mike, your results don't agree with Miplet's. You and I agree, and our results are slightly different than what Miplet got. Here is what I get:Quote: WizardI agree exactly! Great work Miplet, as usual. I just added this to my baccarat page (linked fixed).
0 pays 150-to-1
28979901420544
4969418374082816
-0.12452652
1 pays 215-to-1
20499217668352
4977899057835008
-0.11415002
2 pays 225-to-1
20006606104576
4978391669398784
-0.09541162
3 pays 200-to-1
22250510129408
4976147765373952
-0.10524286
4 pays 120-to-1
36294133463040
4962104142040320
-0.12140052
5 pays 110-to-1
39684046743808
4958714228759552
-0.11873185
6 pays 45-to-1
96170001308416
4902228274194944
-0.11495247
7 pays 45-to-1
101717538899968
4896680736603392
-0.06389877
8 pays 80-to-1
54879416675072
4943518858828288
-0.11066856
9 pays 80-to-1
55146054060032
4943252221443328
-0.10634765
Quote: mipletI was lazy and used the rounded probabilities in the second table instead of the actual combinations in the first table from here. Aren't 6 decks more common in the UK where this bet is offered?
I think we (UK) use 8 deck for Baccarat and 6 for Blackjack.
No problem.Quote: mipletI was lazy and used the rounded probabilities in the second table instead of the actual combinations in the first table from here. Aren't 6 decks more common in the UK where this bet is offered?
What I am wondering is how the documentation lists numbers that are so very different from ours. I match the numbers for Super Pay Egalite using 8 decks. When I do the math for UR Way egalite with 8 decks, the numbers are very different.
Math given here at U.K. Casino table games
