Question about Double Deck

Quote: Wizard

By the way, the reason I was betting big ...

For the record, Miplet and I agreed that we would keep that info to ourselves. We felt it wasn't even our own business to know, so we certainly weren't going to broadcast it.

I was asking the question in an order to argue my point at my place of employement. Management claims we are having big losses on our double deck game "because we allow players to talk about the cards in their hand". I argue there is really not an atvantage because we expose all cards after each round. I can see that a player on third may gain a slight advantage when deciding if he wants insurance. I don't have any data or expert opinion to bring to my argument.

How would I prove I'm right or back down because I"m wrong?

In the specific insurance case, just see whether you're getting lots of insurance bets late in the shoe. I would say that generally, the impact to a game from skilled counters is going to be much more than the difference in impact between skilled counters making index plays based on seeing 4-5 extra cards/round vs. otherwise. In other words, dealing face-up/face-down is the least of your problems if your games are routinely being counted and you don't already know about it.

If you're actually taking big losses, you should worry about identifying the counters and getting them off your tables. Don't worry about whether the cards are face up or whether the players know about them anyway. Or look elsewhere for the reason your tables are dumping -- like dealer collusion or some other inside job.

About 30% of a counter's profit comes from insurance !! To say nothing of how it protects your bankroll.